Mike wrote: Great point Allan. What a fake this guy is. Another text would be II Thess chapter one Maybe his followers should ask him to raise a man from the dead with his spoken word, or see if when the local authorities ever come to take him away, they fall backward on the ground by a word from him also Oh, I wonder if this imposter can walk through walls, as Christ did after his resurrection
There will come one and do all those things and more.
Then I Daniel looked, and, behold there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders? And I heard the man clothed in linen which was upon the waters of the river when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be
for a time, times, and an half
And when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people all these things shall be finished
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect
Minnow wrote: "James Dobson, one of the nation's most prominent evangelical Christian leaders, backed Mike Huckabee's presidential bid" Oh well! In that case Huckabee is definitely destined for the White House. That right folks.
Jimmy knows he must endorse someone that claims to be christian, he knows Huck is about done, stick a fork in it. That leaves McCain, so Jimmy will endorse him, to keep the Dem's from winning, so will Pat, 700 reasons to send me money, Robertson and Bob Jones There is a man of God, although not perfect like most. I still feel Ron Paul would truly push his belief, not seperate from it as most, to be Pres.
MurrayA wrote: Reference: Jeremiah 16:19 What is interesting is v.21: "I will make them (lit. modi'am: cause them to know) My power and My might, and they shall know that My Name is the LORD." God is speaking about the Gentile nations: in contrast to the Israelite nation who have embraced the idols of the nations, the latter will discard them and embrace the God of Israel, the true and living God. Alternatively, it envisages the Jews in exile who discard their idols and learn the lesson of God's chastisement, and by that external means come to know the LORD in truth. Either way, it speaks of a Divine work ("My mighty power") in people such that they "know that His Name is the LORD".
Preach it Murray Why waste your "talents" Amen Do you think both ways or only one?
33k wrote: Thank you, but personally I think it's heartbreaking, and we should weep and mourn for the professed church in our day.
I won't keep you, sister is it? I agree, but sometimes when you bring it up purly for instruction, for edification of the saints, its not so hard to speak of. Your comment, bears fruit "but personally I think it's heartbreaking" For how will they hear, God has His Ways
33k wrote: I was pondering on just that question myself earlier today. I would be interested in what you and others think. I wasn't actually thinking beyond the specific reports of waterboarding already given in the news reports. You raise an interesting question by extension. I have seen churches destroyed by pastors who lie to the church like Ananias and bully people out like Diotrophes. According to the three marks of a true church we can see that such churches are not churches at all when they utterly reject the practise of biblical church discipline. Are they waterboarders? No, I think there is more biblical hope for the eventual repentance of waterboarders than the hardened religious establishment.
Wow, thats pretty cool I think there is more biblical hope for the eventual repentance of waterboarders than the hardened religious establishment
MurrayA wrote: JD, Don't just give me more of the same allegorical fancies. I'm well aware of that sort of thing. You may hold them if you like, but to use them them to prove anything is just circular reasoning, i.e. using interpretations as evidence. Instead, face up to the points I have made (and I won't repeat myself), as follows I don't believe for a moment you can offer anything of substance.
shibboleths (whether you recognise them as such or not).
33k wrote: Protestant - Excellent comment. The waterboarders amongst us destroy our society far more effectively than 19 hijackers ever can do. One quibble though.
Self-incrimination is valid when it is given freely
"Lord, who shall abide in thy tabernacle? who shall dwell in thy holy hill?He that walketh uprightly, and worketh righteousness, and speaketh the truth in his heart. He that backbiteth not with his tongue, nor doeth evil to his neighbour, nor taketh up a reproach against his neighbour. In whose eyes a vile person is contemned; but he honoureth them that fear the LORD. He that sweareth to his own hurt, and changeth not. He that putteth not out his money to usury, nor taketh reward against the innocent. He that doeth these things shall never be moved."
Hi 33k Lovely verses, I enjoy reading Gods Word. If I may, what is a waterboarder? And How will they destroy our society far more effectively than 19 hijackers ever can do?
Is a waterboarder He that backbiteth not with his tongue, nor doeth evil to his neighbour, nor taketh up a reproach against his neighbour. Maybe nor waterboarder taketh reward against the innocent
Sorry, are there any examples of torture in the Bible, besides those solders who killed Jesus?
Protestant wrote: I am amazed that Bible believing Christians could ever conceive the idea that our Saviour God, who was tortured with our sins in the garden, who was was tortured by the Roman soldiers whipping him, and who was finally tortured to death on the cross, would aprove of the use of torture.
the horror of what our Lord went through to save us? How could we then inflict such barbaric torture on another human being made in the image of God?
and self-incrimination is never valid. Outside of that, we 'give place to God's wrath' and look to him to bring vengence.
Hi Protestant, the horror of what our Lord went through to save us and self-incrimination is never valid.
Wow I think you made an oximoron Do you see it? The horror of what our Lord went through to save us WHY self-incrimination is never valid.
Did Mel Gibson sign your dvd?
who was was tortured by the Roman soldiers whipping him, and who was finally tortured to death on the cross,
See, many went to the cross, some went with joy, not a big deal to say Jesus died on a cross, He was killed by some soldiers.
My God, My God-- Thats Who did it, He poured out His Wrath on His only begotten SON, yea the cross, it can kill. Fear God
Biblical FOR every word we type here should be in complete agreement with Christ. We speak as our church, please ask your Pastor, Bishop, or Elder if what we are teaching online is indeed in complete agreement with your church. See I do just that, for the Head of my church is Jesus, and He supplied me with a copy of answers, for just this very reason. Yes were the words of Paul and Peter more Christian than those of Fred, or Bob, who are they? Who am I
I agree with Mike Neil, you know what thats going to do to Mike who wrote
Lance Eccles wrote: Actually, it's not entirely clear that the "young boys fair as virgin pearls" are intended for use by women. Somewhere else it says that everything that is forbidden on earth is permitted in paradise.
Woe pretty sick things here But then, its catholic doctrine, I guess
Say it Again Sam wrote: Well, son you see that God did not mean he loved the world and don't you know that Christ blood was not the propitiation for the whole world and HA, you are not falling for a thousand years means a thousand years are you, let me tell you that it does not mean a thousand and it does not mean years but please don't ask me what it does mean and Christ did not die for every man, he died for the ungodly and I guess that make us calvinists the ungodly'! Oh, wait, if we are the ungodly, that makes the Bible believers the Godly, Oh, my!
You know Pastor, You speak some truth, but just as invite Jesus into your heart became doctrine, so has your 180 out.
I think those far right, and far left have more in common than you think.
The Bible calls it a place where the worm never dies.