JD wrote:
What is it that you cannot believe? Name something.

Mike wrote:
"PORTLAND, Ore. — It was a quiet Sunday afternoon in 1938 when something went terribly wrong near young Bill Hamilton's house. His teenage friends had been building pipe bombs. One, an Episcopalian, was dead. Another, a Catholic, lay on the grass fatally injured. And the third, the son of an atheist, emerged without a scratch.
How, Hamilton wondered, could a just God allow this? Why do the innocent suffer?"
I suppose it is difficult to grasp the concept that they died because they were playing with pipe bombs, but that would require acceptance of the idea that there is personal responsibility for the use of one's will to do what one wants to do and to deal with the ensuing results.

R. K. Borill wrote:
If infants are not to be baptized as a sign of the covenant, then there is no significance to the circumcision of infants in the Old Testament which prepares for the New.

Romans 2:24-26 (King James Version)
24For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.

25For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.

I thank God that He desired reconciliation enough to point out my sin
God NEEDS no one, its to show His love,
Salvation, not reconciliation.

send His son to die for my penalty
Not unless you believe, and repent
I know kinda turns people off
Matthew 7:23
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity

give me a heart of flesh, writing the law on it

MurrayA wrote:
"All of us who have been baptised into Christ have been baptised into His death." Rom.6:3
"If we have become united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be united with the likeness of His resurrection." Rom.6:5
"All of you who were baptised into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ." Gal.3:27
jago, what do we do with these texts? There is no room to move here. If we take them seriously it is hard to avoid the conclusion that everyone baptised is united with Christ.
Now I am NOT a baptismal regenerationist, but these texts do clearly indicate the link between baptism and salvation.

is there but one way to baptise (must be, for as long as this has been going on)
Someone in the Bible said something about
John baptised with water but
Luke 3:16
John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire

Did Jesus dunk, or sprinkle anyone

There is no room to move here. If we take them seriously

JD wrote:
I accept that from you and the very silly Evans.
I can just see God out there sprinkling the fires of judgment on Israel. Oh, I forgot, you don't believe God will baptize them with fire.

With that said, get your head
spinning, so you can see the sprinkles
of fire of judgment.

R. K. Borill wrote:
That is precisely the point. The mode is not as critical as the doctrine. Otherwise, given the spirit of men, they will convert the mode into an idol and use that idol as the means of salvation. It is for this reason that Presbyterians will accept the baptism of Baptists who believe the gospel as an accepted baptism, whereas the Baptist will not accept the Baptism of the Presbyterians. Instead, they will re-baptize. This activity indicates that they place the mode as superior to the gospel itself.

. This activity indicates that they place the mode as superior to the gospel itself.

Who could argue with that?
Its all about Him

. The mode is not as critical as the doctrine.
If the mode was, I think it would be clear. Hate to say this, (never stopped me before) but this whole argument sounds alot like a catholic, communion
vs the holy eukerest, pointless.

phoenixbrew wrote:
How can people justify discriminating against gays and lesbian citizens?

But God Hates IT, hence some chistians
may stumble and hate the sinner.

God calls it an abomination.
Not good, Jesus says you must die to self, not just the homsexual life style
your whole life.

How can people justify discriminating against .......(fill in the blank)

If God says so, justify is the key
discriminating is wrong

R. K. Borill wrote:
But, to be the most accurate, we should roll a rock over them. I am not certain though after such a "burial" if they could afterwards "walk in the likeness of Christ".

I must need help
I'm still laughing

God did create humor
Don't belive it
The Bible says
let them with ears to hear, hear
(should get some good email on that)

GK wrote:
Terry
sometimes you just gotta tell it like it is,whether it suits them or not....

GK wrote:
So if GG is,as you assert "my brother",why have you not turned your attention to what he has been posting?
methinks thou dost complain too much...
I believe you to be greatly mistaken-I prefer actual scripture to a commentary
http://www.theholdemans.com/brother.htm
who is my brother?it's all laid out for you-
requirements-
He is saved…Acts 16:31; Rom. 10:9, 13; Heb. 10:39; Titus 3:5; Eph. 2:8
He is forgiven…Acts 10:43; Col. 1:14; 2:13; Eph. 1:7; 4:32
He is born again…1 John 5:1; John 3:3,7; 1 Pet. 1:23; 1:3
He is a new creature…2 Cor. 5:17, Col. 3:9,10
He is transferred from darkness to light…Col. 1:13; 1 Pet. 2:9;1 Thess. 5:5; Eph. 5:8
He is made alive (quickened)…Col. 2:13; Eph. 2:1,5
He has eternal life…John 3:15,16, 36; 5:24; Rom. 6:23; 1 John 5:11-13
He has a hope laid up for him in heaven…Col 1:5; Tit. 3:7
His name is written in the Lamb’s Book of Life…Revelation 21: 27; Phil. 4:3; Rev. 3:5(20:15)
The righteousness of God is imputed to him…Rom. 3:22; 4:5, 11, 22-24; Phil. 3:9; 2 Cor. 5:21

By the Book wrote:
Hey DB;
If we are considering texts how about this one

Immersion is never proved in Scripture. Because the quantity of water is never stipulated anywhere.

Because whenever Jesus was baptized water was used
Very true, Sinless, yet baptised, and we know why
We get baptised, we know why, yes?

the quantity of water is never stipulated anywhere
Very true, maybe the Holy Spirit forgot
such an important thing- you think?

A headline

What is the Scriptural mode of baptism

Another headline

What can turn christians into ravishing wolfs
A headline

Jim Lincoln wrote:
“God is dead, signed Nietzsche,” and somebody wrote under it “Nietzsche is dead, signed God.”[/URL]

Maybe, do you not see, thats my motive
No attack, instuction maybe.

How to Have Victory Over Sin

Don't know where it goes, but I
I pray its the Bible

AntiVaticanistAmerican wrote:
Would that also refer to you too "jcics" ?
or
Are we to assume that you are Mr. Perfect Christian yourself ? ! ? ! ? !

Discerning Believer wrote:
Considering the following text,

out of room.

AntiVaticanistAmerican wrote:
"terry evans", You are not a little slow......
you are A-LOT slow !

Yea, I guess thats how I started this
with you.
It appeared to me you had some knowlage
But then what do I know

AntiVaticanistAmerican wrote:

Recap-my quote 1/5/08 9:13 PM
Leaving out the Rapture,(for now) what do you say is the beginning of the week?
you said
'that MAN of SIN' to be 'Revealed', CONFIRMING The Covenant With Many For One Week (7 Years
I agree
Any thing else

But you said
Which Basically Puts THE RAPTURE of The TRUE CHURCH of THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AT About That General Time

I disagree, (maybe 7 years later)
Lets do one thing at a time, and with
the spirit leading, not what we think
we know. Besides I'm a little slow

savedbygrace wrote:
Terry Evans,
Exodus 18:21,
II Chron. 19:6,7

2. A christian Votes
You are advocating a boycott because no one is good, again your choice of verses

Thats the purpose

At this time only 22% say other
while
61% say education in the survey

1 John 2:27
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him