Mike wrote: "PORTLAND, Ore. â€” It was a quiet Sunday afternoon in 1938 when something went terribly wrong near young Bill Hamilton's house. His teenage friends had been building pipe bombs. One, an Episcopalian, was dead. Another, a Catholic, lay on the grass fatally injured. And the third, the son of an atheist, emerged without a scratch. How, Hamilton wondered, could a just God allow this? Why do the innocent suffer?" I suppose it is difficult to grasp the concept that they died because they were playing with pipe bombs, but that would require acceptance of the idea that there is personal responsibility for the use of one's will to do what one wants to do and to deal with the ensuing results.
cool Reminds me, did you hear the one about nevermind
R. K. Borill wrote: If infants are not to be baptized as a sign of the covenant, then there is no significance to the circumcision of infants in the Old Testament which prepares for the New.
good point can it go either way some say children should be offered up to the lord some say baptize, some say don't but just like adults, its not needed for salvation, only obedeiance. Can an Infant do that, or should the parent do that to the infant.
Romans 2:24-26 (King James Version) 24For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.
25For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.
26Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?
Not sure who wrote this looks like badhorsie777 Brother, you make good sence when you speak Gods word, stick to that. Don't water things down to think someone will gladly accept the truth, they won't or its no longer truth.
I thank God that He desired reconciliation enough to point out my sin God NEEDS no one, its to show His love, Salvation, not reconciliation.
send His son to die for my penalty Not unless you believe, and repent I know kinda turns people off Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity
give me a heart of flesh, writing the law on it
the writing took place before you were born the stone heart was not removed than kinda written in stone, if you will I agree, sometimes I go over the edge and the love of Christ may not be seen in all my comments, but then the trap is not set by me. Really, don't compromise. Preach the Word
MurrayA wrote: "All of us who have been baptised into Christ have been baptised into His death." Rom.6:3 "If we have become united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be united with the likeness of His resurrection." Rom.6:5 "All of you who were baptised into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ." Gal.3:27 jago, what do we do with these texts? There is no room to move here. If we take them seriously it is hard to avoid the conclusion that everyone baptised is united with Christ. Now I am NOT a baptismal regenerationist, but these texts do clearly indicate the link between baptism and salvation.
no they don't not by water anyway
is there but one way to baptise (must be, for as long as this has been going on) Someone in the Bible said something about John baptised with water but Luke 3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire
Did Jesus dunk, or sprinkle anyone
There is no room to move here. If we take them seriously
JD wrote: I accept that from you and the very silly Evans. I can just see God out there sprinkling the fires of judgment on Israel. Oh, I forgot, you don't believe God will baptize them with fire.
JD My point This is what you don't see you don't believe God will baptize them with fire. Not just the Jews Calvinist are not your problem It stems from your double sided salvation. You speak of Gods choosen people as just pawns in a game of chess. Only because they are choosen, they have their own way to salvation. (THEY DON"T) JD One Christ One way One truth
With that said, get your head spinning, so you can see the sprinkles of fire of judgment.
Jd What does God tell you everytime you ask Him, WHY
R. K. Borill wrote: That is precisely the point. The mode is not as critical as the doctrine. Otherwise, given the spirit of men, they will convert the mode into an idol and use that idol as the means of salvation. It is for this reason that Presbyterians will accept the baptism of Baptists who believe the gospel as an accepted baptism, whereas the Baptist will not accept the Baptism of the Presbyterians. Instead, they will re-baptize. This activity indicates that they place the mode as superior to the gospel itself.
. This activity indicates that they place the mode as superior to the gospel itself.
Who could argue with that? Its all about Him
. The mode is not as critical as the doctrine. If the mode was, I think it would be clear. Hate to say this, (never stopped me before) but this whole argument sounds alot like a catholic, communion vs the holy eukerest, pointless.
GK wrote: So if GG is,as you assert "my brother",why have you not turned your attention to what he has been posting? methinks thou dost complain too much... I believe you to be greatly mistaken-I prefer actual scripture to a commentary http://www.theholdemans.com/brother.htm who is my brother?it's all laid out for you- requirements- He is savedâ€¦Acts 16:31; Rom. 10:9, 13; Heb. 10:39; Titus 3:5; Eph. 2:8 He is forgivenâ€¦Acts 10:43; Col. 1:14; 2:13; Eph. 1:7; 4:32 He is born againâ€¦1 John 5:1; John 3:3,7; 1 Pet. 1:23; 1:3 He is a new creatureâ€¦2 Cor. 5:17, Col. 3:9,10 He is transferred from darkness to lightâ€¦Col. 1:13; 1 Pet. 2:9;1 Thess. 5:5; Eph. 5:8 He is made alive (quickened)â€¦Col. 2:13; Eph. 2:1,5 He has eternal lifeâ€¦John 3:15,16, 36; 5:24; Rom. 6:23; 1 John 5:11-13 He has a hope laid up for him in heavenâ€¦Col 1:5; Tit. 3:7 His name is written in the Lambâ€™s Book of Lifeâ€¦Revelation 21: 27; Phil. 4:3; Rev. 3:5(20:15) The righteousness of God is imputed to himâ€¦Rom. 3:22; 4:5, 11, 22-24; Phil. 3:9; 2 Cor. 5:21
Jim Lincoln wrote: â€śGod is dead, signed Nietzsche,â€ť and somebody wrote under it â€śNietzsche is dead, signed God.â€ť[/URL]
Jim, really, in love I ask How do you read this TRASH This is speaking evil in the sight of GOD. â€śGod is dead, signed Nietzsche â€śNietzsche is dead, signed God (even said in humor is pushing it) But you attach a link for info. So its meant to instuct? A lady does not have to become a whore to understand Gods Word, that its wrong Please don't post anything on how to witness to homosexuals.
Maybe, do you not see, thats my motive No attack, instuction maybe.
How to Have Victory Over Sin
Don't know where it goes, but I I pray its the Bible
"terry evans", you are reading TOO MUCH of Then that Mary is A Satanic(-Vaticanist) Counterfeit However, it is IMPOSSIBLE to leave out the PRE-Millenial/PRE-Tribulation RAPTURE Thats where you lost me, sorry You said see Acts 15:14 All I seen was "to TAKE OUT of them I guess I made a leap also. No not ready to jump to rapture yet.
Recap-my quote 1/5/08 9:13 PM Leaving out the Rapture,(for now) what do you say is the beginning of the week? you said 'that MAN of SIN' to be 'Revealed', CONFIRMING The Covenant With Many For One Week (7 Years I agree Any thing else
But you said Which Basically Puts THE RAPTURE of The TRUE CHURCH of THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AT About That General Time
I disagree, (maybe 7 years later) Lets do one thing at a time, and with the spirit leading, not what we think we know. Besides I'm a little slow
But you said Which Basically Puts THE RAPTURE of The TRUE CHURCH of THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AT About That General Time 1. ?? why 2. Is there anything else that must happen before the rapture? 3. Do you think the CHURCH is A. Gentiles and Jews B. Just the Jews C. Just the Gentiles D. Above A, but only Jew or Gentile concerning the rapture Me-A-till the end
savedbygrace wrote: Terry Evans, Exodus 18:21, II Chron. 19:6,7
savedbygrace As far as your spiritual statments I do, and made it clear (I thought)agree with you. A christian should vote as a christian Cool, you don't like Ron Paul That was clear from your first of many comments The part unclear to me, is why must Ron badmouth homo's, its a sin, a big one, but forgivable Sometimes my points(2) are only clear to myself I guess, they are 1. No one is good I don't think anyone(to include Ron Paul running for pres. will be like Job. Ron claims to be a christian Does Ron say he supports, or does not call any of the things you site A SIN A verse you just quoted, good choice II Chron. 19:6,7 "And he said to the judges, 'Consider what you are doing, for you do not judge for man but for the LORD who is with you when you render judgement That does not mean play God and condem It means for what measure you judge you know the rest
2. A christian Votes You are advocating a boycott because no one is good, again your choice of verses
Exodus 18:21, "Furthermore, you shall select out of all the people able men who FEAR GOD, men of TRUTH, those who HATE DISHONEST GAIN Does Ron meet that, I think so, you don't, FINE Fear GOD, not Ron
I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Thats the purpose
At this time only 22% say other while 61% say education in the survey
1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him
and ye need not that any man teach you: 61%- against