Survey: Born Again Christians Favor Democratic Candidates
A surprising new survey out Monday found that more born again Christian voters said they would support a Democratic candidate than a Republican candidate, breaking the long tradition of born-again support for the GOP.
The new Barna study shows that if the general election was held today, 40 percent of all born again adults who are likely to vote in November would choose the Democratic candidate, and only 29 percent would choose the Republican candidate. The remaining 28 percent are currently unsure whom they would support, preferring to vote for a specific candidate rather than strictly along party lines.
â€śGiven the large percentage of undecided voters, it is possible that the Republican candidate might eventually win a majority of the born again vote,â€ť said George Barna, whose firm conducted the national survey. â€śHowever, it will not be easy to win them over.â€ť...
William wrote: ..... Ron Paul ..... his voting record is a testimony to his abiding by his oath of office to uphold and defend the Constitution, something none of the other candidates have done. Every other candidate for President has supported and promoted legislation and policies at odds with our form of government, a limited constitutional republic. Every other candidate is promoting more of the same anti-christian socialism that we've been getting with each administration regardless of which party is in control....
..... "Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty" and Ron Paul is the only candidate promoting a constitutional republic designed to protect our God-given liberties. Yes, God will have His way in raising up the next President, but He will hold each of us accountable for who and what we endorse with our vote. Will you endorse evil or good?
Jim Lincoln: There is no AVA-Maria here ! But if you're addressing AntiVaticanistAmerican; then completely say so (like I completely wrote your name down: not my own genetic Brother's initials; which are also JL !): or else the Whole World will think that you're calling upon The Satanic-Vaticanist "Virgin"-Venus/Madonna/Maria (hint: AVA-Maria) !
Nay, Jim Lincoln, but I Never ONCE said by Word, Deed, Action or Thought that the Democratic Party is any better than the Republican Party; For Both Parties have Already Been Infiltrated/Compromised/Subverted/"Vaticanized" By The Diabolical "Jesuits": as they have made The U.S. Republican Party the Repository of The World's Extremist-Fanatical Warmongering Nazi/Fascist Ideology of Globalism/Ecumenism/New-World-[Dis]Orderism ala The Present "Skull&Bones" Bush Administration on the right hand--
And The Democratic Party the Repository of The World's Extremist-Radical Liberal Socialist/Communist Ideology of Internationalism/Ecumenism/One-Worldism ala The Former (CFR-Trilateralist) Zbigniew-Brzezinski/Carter-Administration on the left hand !
Aside from the BUSH Administration being FARTHER to the RIGHT than SATANIC-VATICANIST RONALD REAGAN'S--A VOTE For The TRUE Pro-Israel Candidate, BARACK OBAMA, Is A VOTE For ABE LINCOLN'S LEGACY !
I guess some people really believe everything they read in the newspaper. Because a couple of columnists say Ron Paul is evil, that supposedly makes it so. Forget that his voting record is a testimony to his abiding by his oath of office to uphold and defend the Constitution, something none of the other candidates have done. Every other candidate for President has supported and promoted legislation and policies at odds with our form of government, a limited constitutional republic. Every other candidate is promoting more of the same anti-christian socialism that we've been getting with each administration regardless of which party is in control.
And to suggest that voting for the lesser of evils from among these other candidates is somehow justifiable would be laughable if it were not so dishonoring to God and His Word. "Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty" and Ron Paul is the only candidate promoting a constitutional republic designed to protect our God-given liberties. Yes, God will have His way in raising up the next President, but He will hold each of us accountable for who and what we endorse with our vote. Will you endorse evil or good?
No, AVA, what makes you think the Democratic Party is any better, aside from the point they will probably have a candidate even left of McGovern, more importantly he is known to be anti-Israel. I would say it is our duty to vote for a pro-Israel candidate, which McCain seems to be, but God will pick which person he wants for the United States. [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?currSection=sermonssource&sermonID=11005171618]]]The Believer and Politics[/URL]
It's an Unequivocal Historic FACT that in late-19th/early-20th Century U.S.A.; the DEMOCRATIC Party--under the leadership of WILLIAM JENNINGS BRYAN-- was the POLITICAL PARTY with MOST Born-Again/Fundamentalist/Evangelical CHRISTIAN Voters !
Old Southern-Methodist Fundamentalist Revivalist/Evangelist BOB JONES SR. was not only a Personal Friend of Former Secretary of State WILLIAM JENNINGS BRYAN (A Member of DEMOCRATIC President WOODROW WILSON'S Cabinet); but he was also a Strong Political Supporter of DEMOCRATIC WILLIAM JENNINGS BRYAN'S (A Fundamentalist-Presbyterian Lay Minister) 3 DEMOCRATIC CAMPAIGNS For PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IN 1896, 1900 & 1908 !
It's safe to say the new survey is 100% ACCURATE regarding BORN-AGAIN Christian Voters Voting for DEMOCRATIC Candidates instead of Republicans.
Since 1/3 of U.S. Voters Vote on PURELY Political Party lines: That is, 1/3 Vote Republican, 1/3 Vote DEMOCRATIC; and the remaining 1/3 Are INDEPENDENT Voters; Who can swing-their-vote either way: Republican or DEMOCRATIC !
MANY REPUBLICAN & INDEPENDENT VOTERS ARE NOW WISING UP TO THE FASCIST-COVERT-SATANIC-VATICANIST CONTROL OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY; AND WILL VOTE DEMOCRATIC THIS NOVEMBER 2008 !
*NOTE: ESPECIALLY BORN-AGAIN CHRISTIAN REPUBLICAN & INDEPENDENT VOTERS !
The Council on Foreign Relaions has published a plan to end American sovereignty and overthrow the American Constitution and government. "Building a North American Community" was authored by three elite members of the New York-based organization. By the year 2010, the following is to be achieved:
(1) A new currency, called the Amero, replace the dollar.
(2) All borders between Mexico, the U.S.A., and Canada be erased and the Border Patrol retired.
(3) A North American Parliament Group, composed of Mexican politicians and U.S. quislings, take over legislative authority, superseding our own Senate and House.
(4) A North American Judicial Council, or Tribunal, take over the judicial function and demote the U.S. Supreme Court to an advisory only role.
(5) A joint Executive Authority be set up, possibly with its capitol in Mexico City or Toronto, to dictate to U.S. citizens the terms of surrender.
Jesus is very clear in John chapter 10, that His sheep hear his voice and a stranger they will not follow.
Voting for either Democratic presidential candidate, is anathema to a Holy God. Both Hillary and Obama believe it's fine and dandy to kill unborn children until the moment of birth. Obama even voted against the Infant Born Alive Act, which protects children that live after an attempted abortion. How radical is that. In regards to Hillary, she told a minister's wife in 1993, " It is God's law to kill babies" ( March 1993 edition of Life Advocate Magazine).
But then again, since our nation is filled with lawbreakers, maybe Obama or Hillary will be our chastisement for turning our backs on the Lord?
The real progress that has been made by the "RON PAUL REVOLUTION," over the last 12 months, has been highlighted by an unlikely source. Newsmax, which is largely a Neo-Con news publication, admits in its new issue that Ron Paul may have "changed the GOP forever."
Newsmax writes that Paul's message of small government, limited taxation, and reduced intervention abroad "resonates with millions of Americans" and compares the Congressman's impact to that of conservative icon Barry Goldwater, who fundamentally shifted the course of the GOP 50 years ago.
America was not demolished overnight and it won't be restored overnight. This is part of a long process that transcends the issue of Ron Paul's presidential campaign. People who are so naive as to lose hope and abandon the cause at such an early stage need to realize that the struggle to revive liberty is a long and arduous battle which really has no end.
We really need to continually remind ourselves to take stock of what we as a movement have achieved in just the last 12 months alone.
Kyle, have you ever read, the well-known Monica Charen's remarks about Ron Paul being [URL=http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/MonaCharen/2007/11/16/too_close_to_kooky]]]Too Close to Kooky[/URL]? Unless something changes, Mr. McCain as far as the Republicans are concerned is the most supportive of Israel (Note Senator Lieberman campaigning for him in Florida) and Hillary Clinton so far, is the best of the likely Democratic ones ( I think AKA will note that --she-- hasn't been accused of any adultery) If all the candidates are so destestable to any of you then don't vote for any of them, [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?currSection=sermonssource&sermonID=11005171618]]]The Believer and Politics[/URL]. Considering who may be a candidate for the Democratic party, [URL=http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1200572509823&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter]]]Our World: The audacity of truth[/URL] I'll probably have to make the choice between the lesser of two evils, but that is almost always the case in a democracy, anyway. Beside, if you listen to Gil's Sermon, it is really the voters who pick the eventual winner for a political office.
AntiVaticanistAmerican wrote: Jim: The Fact that Ron Paul has heavy support from Neo-Nazi's, White-Supremist groups and The KKK is evidence enough Not to vote for him; let alone support him in any way, shape or form! And Republican Bob Barr's hypocrisy in accusing Democratic Bill Clinton of Adultery; when Bob Barr is No Better an Adulterer than Former President Bill Clinton! [/QUOTE}
Don't judge Ron Paul by the people that supposedly follow him, which by the way was made known to you by a media who essentially hate him. There was once an important Figure 2000 years ago that people were wary of because of the supposedly 'unclean' people that followed Him.
As for me and my community and many other joining churches with ours are voting for Ron Paul for true freedom. Freedom to choose at a state level what is right for us as people of God. I ask you to judge him 'by his fruit'.... A sound and functioning family, marriage of 50 years, and a humble servant of God who is not afraid of public lies.
AVA, you're quite correct about the likes of Ron Paul, [URL=http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/MonaCharen/2007/11/16/too_close_to_kooky]]]Too Close to Kooky[/URL] and one has an outside conservative source to look at candidates from both parties, e.g., [URL=http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1200572509823&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter]]]Our World: The audacity of truth[/URL]. I understand Caroline appears on the Fox News Network.
For comic relief, go look at this B.C. cartoon, [URL=http://www.chron.com/apps/comics/showComic.mpl?date=2008/2/9&name=BC]]]B.C.[/URL].
Oh, you mean Republican-Adulterer BOB BARR & Satanic-Vaticanist/Roman-"Catholic"-Cultic New-World-[Dis]-Orderer, Nazi-Fascist & Ku-Klux-Klan Supported RON PAUL ?
The present FACT of REALITY is that ONE of the Presidential candidates on The Ballot this November WILL be elected PRESIDENT of The United States of AMERICA !
The DEMOCRATIC PARTY Ticket; BARACK OBAMA: President & HILLARY CLINTON: Vice President?
The Republican Party Ticket; John McCain: President & Mike Huckabee: Vice President?
It appears that the POLITICAL PARTY PENDULUM OF POWER is Swinging TOWARD the DEMOCRATIC Party "TEETER"; and AWAY from the REPUBLICAN Party "TOTTER" !
In my opinion, there may NOT be a SINGLE candidate in ANY PARTY that holds a candle to George WASHINGTON, John ADAMS, Thomas JEFFERSON, Andrew JACKSON or Abraham LINCOLN; But, there's sure a Political PARTY that has been out of the WHITE HOUSE these LAST 8 YEARS:
And that POLITICAL PARTY, my dear friends, is The United States DEMOCRATIC Party (who some U.S. Republican Party members accuse of being "too radical-liberal" and "bordering on socialism/communism");
As some U.S. DEMOCRATIC Party members accuse U.S. Republican Party members of being "too extremist-capitalist" and "bordering on fascism-nazism" (ala "raisin") !
Republicans today hold a difference without distinction compared to Democrats; except the very few like Bob Barr and Ron Paul. The only hope for America is long suffering it appears. Hold on and sit tight as we go for a bumpy ride.
Uncle Raisin www.UncleRaisin.com "Raisin" the Standard Against Injustice
"Righteousness exalts a nation." Personally, I think Hillary and Obama are on the spectrum somewhere between Socialism and Communism. McCain strikes me as a diluted Conservative, but I don't believe he is running alongside the Dems in that Socialist/Communist track. They are all about secular statism pure and simple. Remember folks, it's a long fight. Since Roe v. Wade there are over 45 million aborted babies. California textbooks are now required to be gender neutral when discussing "parents." Sodomy is legal. The "mixed economy" with incredible national debt is accepted by both parties. Much of that debt is owed to foreign governments and corporations. Muslim oil sheiks have a tremendous influence on both parties. The Chinese are flooding the world with dollars to devalue our currency. If one believes Phyllis Schafly ("Eagle Forum") as I do, there are incredible threats to U.S. sovereignty. Further, where are the stay-at-home moms. Are women working for personal fulfillment, or to help pay the bills. It's becoming harder and harder to keep up a middle class lifestyle and pay the humonguous taxes. And what is a middle class lifestyle? Do people think about what they really need anymore? Is there FRUGALITY?
John, from San Jose, Ca, Of course there is no such thing a carnal Christians.
Gil Rugh said or, wrote: Allowing the flesh to manifest itself is to resist the ministry of the Holy Spirit. For the believer to do so will result in a lack of growth and maturity. The natural, fleshly person is someone who never seems to give evidence of submitting to the Spirit irregardless of how sincere their profession of faith may seem.
from, [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=123005172842]]]Who Is A Carnal Christian?[/URL].
Many Born Again Christians should find a lot of candidates both Republican and Democratic unacceptable, [URL=http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0108/glick012208.php3?printer_friendly]]]The audacity of truth[/URL].
terry evans wrote: Hi Mike But will you still love me when I say something you don't like think about it, just about every thing you say I don't like. And that means what? I'll tell you NY style (can't), what I think means nothing, thats been my point, with everyone here, what does the Bible teach on Pride? Did you hear Paul Washers sermon on How to get saved? What do you think And PS: my isum is better 1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. Do a word search on "pride" 46 times, not including plural, or syno's. Kinda important doctrine, I'd say
If you are going to speak in tongues, you need an interpreter. It's in the Book. Is there a connection between my question and your response?
No, I didn't hear Paul Washer's sermon on how to get saved. How is it better than the biblical presentation?
R. K. Borill wrote: To use the term "Born Again Christian" is redundunt. I mean can there be any that are Christian and not "born again"? The term implies that there can be.
Very true. I have debated this on here in the past with someone who spoke of Christians and born again Christians. However, simply put, only those born again are Christians. One who is not born again is not a Christian. It is that simple. This Christian-Born Again Christian phenomenon is confusing and has probably sent many to hell, thinking you can be a Christian without being born again. Again, if you are not born again "by the word of God which liveth and abideth forever," you are not a Christian and it is in the best interest to repent and get this straightened out now before you leave this world at death. Then you will know you are a Christian and preserved in Jesus Christ(Jude 1) because you have been scripturally born again. Another problem is many today think they are born again, but really are not since they will claim salvation by a means not recorded in scripture, saying "I did....." How many of these "born again Christians" can give a clear testimony of scriptural regeneration, is what I would like to know.