Neil wrote: Jim likes this article, thus a powerful incentive to don one's Thinking Cap ... It reads like a puff piece for the Gettys' new Christ-massðŸŽ„ album. Traditional music for this genre is nothing if not sentimental. And they follow hallowed Tradition: practically every major pop singer or group in the past, no matter how ungodly they were, thought it worthwhile to publish a Christmas album, e.g. Frank Sinatra, Elvis Presley, Beach Boys.
Dr. Tim wrote: I think Iâ€™ll go ahead and dust off the Bing Crosby and Andy Williams LPs today. Ho ho ho.
Adriel wrote: Hymn singing has now turned into an entertainment show for sinners in churches.
Frank wrote: I remember doing a really long study on the incarnation. When I finished I had lots of issues that I couldn't understand, but that had no effect on the truth that Jesus was always God.
Anyone Frank who imagines the incarnation to be an easy thing to understand, must be a spiritual genius, maybe even an angel. But one thing is for sure, "Jesus was always God". We know that, right well.
Dr. Tim wrote: Amen, Brother John. People give all kinds of reasons why theyâ€™ll be glad to get to heavenâ€”no sickness or pain, reunion with loved ones, etc. While these are all valid, for my own part I think the thing I look forward to most is saying goodbye forever to my own corruptions. No tempter! No temptation! No more sin nature! No wonder we shall be forever praising King Jesus.
Praise there will be magnificent, bro! And I must say it is delightful to know someone else who knows what it is to lament. It is good to rejoice in the Lord alway, but there is always that lament over sin and the sinful nature, our inheritance from Adam, because in him we sinned. For me to also say goodbye to mine own corruptions will be a super joy, a day of rejoicing.
I believe the Quiet Christian also understands this.
I really don't like the way things are going. I'm just being honest, I will be very glad to leave this horrible "world" which I am exhorted not to love.
1 John 2:15-17 KJV (15)Â Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. (16)Â For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. (17)Â And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
The Quiet Christian wrote: Total depravity is a lot like gravity. You have leave this world to escape them.
Yes, the heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked, who can know it?
The heart is not merely wicked, it is desperately wicked. All of mankind therefore is capable of all kinds of lawbreaking.
Jeremiah 17:9-10 KJV (9)Â The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? (10)Â I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.
Matthew 1:18-25 KJV (18)Â Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. (19)Â Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily. (20)Â But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. (21)Â And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. (22)Â Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, (23)Â Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. (24)Â Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife: (25)Â And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.
2 Timothy 3:13-17 KJV (13)Â But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. (14)Â But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; (15)Â And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. (16)Â All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: (17)Â That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Dr. Tim wrote: Jim, Iâ€™m sure we all want to study the most accurate version of the Bible. In pursuit of that objective, I will abandon my KJV and adopt the NIV instead if you can just explain what any one of the following verses means as it appears in the NIV: Matthew 17:21, 18:11 or 23:14, or Mark 11:26 or 15:28 or Acts 8:37.
Frank wrote: Hey Brother, Here is what I was referring to regarding reproduction. Imagine a cell forming out of nothing and then that cell multiples and forms a human being; somehow overcoming the irreducible complexity of our vital organs. IOW, none of our vital organs can be alive unless they all are alive. Now, letâ€™s say this human exists, but it obviously canâ€™t reproduce. So, no evolutionist can or will hazard a guess as to how this entire process could start over again and somehow form the opposite sexual organ necessary to reproduce. In a hurry, so I hope this makes sense.
Thank you brother. I'll leave it there, because these things are way over my head. You know what I mean, eh?
The Quiet Christian wrote: Great and hopeful post, John UK! Often I wonder as well if the Lord hasn't stricken the sexually immoral of all sorts with these diseases. It is interesting that the diseases would die out in a generation if people would stop sodomy, fornication, and adultery.
Yet there is hope in Christ. Psalm 107 includes those fools who are stricken with illness for rejecting the Lord's commands, but when they cry out to Him, He saves them.
Yes it is very true QC. I well remember after mine own conversion, when I read Psalm 107 I found myself there. Those of God's elect, living in any sin before or after conversion, will find the going very tough, because the loving Father will make it tough. And he will make it tougher and tougher until the sinner/saint cries out to God, for God to save him/restore him.
BTW Johnny Mac's video sermon is entitled "Homosexuality and the Campaign for Immorality". I watched it on YouTube and it was 54 minutes, but I see it is here on SA under the same title and it is about half-an-hour. It is an extremely good biblical message on the subject, and well worth watching, especially with a genuine conversion of a sodomite at the close.
James Thomas wrote: Good morning to you John, Thanks again for your kind reply and glad you agree. Some may think the simplicity that is in Christ is complex. Paul says its simple. I'm glad we can agree with Paul.
Yes, amen, Paul says that the natural man, because of original sin, is dead while he lives and "there are none that understandeth, not even one".
What is simple to a believer is complex to an unbeliever.
However, the knowledge of God and of his Christ, we don't even scratch the surface. God is Creator, man is creature.
Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets: She crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city she uttereth her words, saying, How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge? (Proverbs 1:20-22 KJV)
Knowledge is good, and Christ has appointed teachers in the assembly to teach others the word of God, in which they are particularly spiritually gifted to do so.
But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen. (2 Peter 3:18 KJV)
I have spoken personally to many people in the UK who did not even know who Jesus Christ is. That is how dark this land has become.
Too many Christians today just will not spend time in their Bible. It takes effort to read and study the Bible, but the fast world they are living in, and easy access to cliche texts on their iPhone has turned their mind.
I watched a Johnny Mac sermon last night (54 mins) on Homosexuality last night, and he claims that the "wrath of God revealed from heaven" in Romans 1, is being shown today through these severe illnesses around the world, but especially in the USA. He also said that Democrats were evil, who loved sins and hated God. All in all, I would say it was a definitive message, and most useful to both Christians and sodomites alike.
Especially poignant was the testimony at the close, where a decades long sodomite was present at Grace Church when Johnny Mac was preaching. The sodomite was dying, had only a few days to live, but God spoke to his heart during the Bible reading (Psalm 107) and he could not wait to speak to John after the meeting. It turned out he was one of the main leaders of Gay Pride Los Angeles, and he knew he needed saving by the Lord Jesus Christ.
Praise be to God he was saved and baptised shortly before his death. Many of his sodomite friends came to the baptism, hearing the gospel, hallelujah!
It is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save SINNERS, of whom Paul was chief.
I am happy to be able to agree with your entire last post. The gospel truth itself is a mystery (to the natural man), but God reveals it to his elect, he makes it manifest to their mind. Your proof texts show this.
In the text we are looking at, are you looking at "simplicity" as referring to either Christ or the gospel? If so, I believe you got it wrong, the KJV not helping much in its use of words. It refers rather to the singleness of devotion of the saint towards Christ. Note,
I am afraid that your minds will be corrupted and that you will abandon your full and pure devotion to Christ â€” in the same way that Eve was deceived by the snake's clever lies. For you gladly tolerate anyone who comes to you and preaches a different Jesus, not the one we preached; and you accept a spirit and a gospel completely different from the Spirit and the gospel you received from us! (2 Corinthians 11:3-4 GNB)
If you now read the KJV in light of this, it makes more sense. Paul's whole concern is that his converts will not depart from the [simplicity that is in Christ, namely, Christ in you, the hope of glory, and singleness of heart towards him] in favour of false preachers who preach another Jesus.
James Thomas wrote: Hey John, I'm fine with exchanging thoughts, but I'm having a hard time following your reasoning on saying its a "complex" gospel rather than simple one by the reason you gave at the outset.
No problem James, let me take the simpler route and show you that Paul said the gospel was a mystery, not a simple little message that anyone could preach. You'll notice that he was asking for prayer, in order that God might enable him to preach this gospel as he ought, because it is not within the capacity of man to do this.
Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints; And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel, For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak. (Ephesians 6:18-20 KJV)
When men of God, duly anointed with the Holy Spirit, preach the gospel, there is something most special about it. This is why Charles Spurgeon had a couple of hundred of his congregation praying out back for him throughout the services.
Adriel, the climate change claims do not bother me because I am living well above sea level.
Frank wrote: Yes Neil, evolution is such a ridiculous concept that is hard for me to even argue against it today. I can sit down with an evolutionist ask him a couple simple questions and none of them have even remotely offered an answer. IOW, they just look at me. What bothers me more than these scientists are Christians who try to appease them while supposedly professing creationism. They do this through theistic evolution or Old earth creationism. All they are doing is trying to appear to be intelligent to unbelievers.
Amen bro, and I liked what Neil said also.
I wonder if you could post those two questions brother, which you have posed to evolutionists in the past, and they just looked at you - gone out, sorta.
I honestly believe you are mixed up with regard to this "simplicity", which you claim is so simple that even a child can understand it.
The reason for this may relate to your belief concerning the actual state of a man who is a sinner. In my book, the man is born a sinner, by inheritance. He doesn't become a sinner at his first sin. Note,
There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. (Romans 3:11 KJV)
This is the natural state of all men.
Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. (Romans 3:19 KJV)
The whole world (by nature) is guilty before God.
Thusly, putting those two scriptures together, the gospel (as it says in the NT) is a mystery, a mystery. Without enlightenment of the Spirit, no man will ever understand it, nor will any child.
The Fall brings spiritual death, so the natural man understands nothing gospel-wise. He needs that Ephesians 2 quickening, "And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins..."
Calvary, and the Man who died there, is far from "simplicity", it be rather "complex" because of who Jesus IS.