amillinialism perspective presented to me was Revelation is completely figurative and not to be taken in any degree as prophetic. If that is the case why do you not present the same argument to Daniel?
Pre trib rapture and dispensationalism are not the same thing. you can be pre trib and not be dispensational although you vannot be dispensational and not hold pre trib.
the debate ends in my mind when in Matt 24 when Christ says the days are shortened for your sake. Who is He talking to? Not those damned to perish. God's elect are no where found to be spared from any tribulation or a great tribulation. Any tribulation is the result of God removinh His restraining hand on evil
she is using a failible scientific conclusion to shine a light on scripture not using scripture to shine a light on scientific conclusions, John 1.
But didn't this happen during the enlightment when after Darwin suggested an old earth many theologians suggested that we cannot discredit the findings of modern science and it ended in an attack on 6 literal days.
I point the finger at myself and confess i do not take the opportunity to defend scripture everytime it is attacked or offer rebuke when His name is used as profanity. BTW i do believe we are to always offer ourselves as a living sacrifice in all these situations not just the ones we feel safe in correcting. Scripture demands this level of commitment and God's efficacy as well
how you answer reveals whether you have a proper view of God's attributes or whether you take Him at His word.
I was challenged by this because i did start to think about whether we can rightfully even ask for any blessings or whether those that were praying were they truly praying to YHWE.
that is my confession, i was not properly thinking about how He has revealed Himself as a Kind, Loving God who has had incredible grace and mercy upon His people. you might argue that was Israel and i agree but Christ did exhort that He causes the sun to rise upon the wicked as well, never tempting us to believe He will not avenge their transgressions but instead giving a glimpse to the depths of His mercies
I have watched Dawkins for a while. in a recent interview with Ben Stein he has confessed that there must be intellegence in the creation account, he is moving away from random processes. i have watched this dynamic unfolding in him for quite some time.
I think this is what he is refering to in a tongue and cheek way. blasphemous? yes but........ i hope you are aware of this and are praying for his eyes opening
If you ask i would answer i am a fierce calvinist. but
tulip your post shows a lack of maturity and maybe you miss the point of the reformation. the true church is THE BRIDE OF CHRIST IN WHOM HE ELECTED TO BESTOW EVERY SPIRITUAL BLESSING FROM BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD not calvinist. i abhore this prose of modern calvinist. I affirm that there are arminians who are saved as well. there are men without access to education, who cannot study these precious doctrines that i affirm Christ has called unto salvation. where on earth does someone get the arogance to determine a man's condition based on what he can by knowledge affirm mature doctrines when it is Christ that determines who he will save.
Have you been to the driscoll controversy site? i access it through apprising ministries if you need. I encourage you to examine him yourself. this is not the first ATTACK on Christ he has made by any stretch.
Please if you have fell into the trap of looking past leaders transgressions because they are associated with other individuals (in this case Piper, Keller, Carson) you need to search the epistles thoroughly (Jude 2 Peter 2 John 2 Timothy Titus) and examine the actions of these men and consider your position thoroughly. i
I strongly advise we must be a compassionate people. we differ only in the gospel revelation to us enabled by the Holy Ghost. we should never boast that we arr so much better and smarter oh we knew we should accept the gospel. no it is a gift and unmeritted at that. but we have got to draw a line in the sand so we have something to offer those outside and inside the kingfom
i don't recall anyone advocating treating homosexuals as dogs. this is where this totally breaks down for me, you are pandering to emotionalism and not applying scripture to this argument which is why modernism to post modernism has poisoned the church. the real argument here is calling sinners to repent and if they are obstinent then you lay open the horrifying consequences of not repenting. are you the type of person that casually says "um please sir i don't want to offend you but it is not the best idea for you to stay in that burning house as it might get uncomfortable"? No you warn them to save their souls!
I also take offense to the laying forth the excuse they were hurt by a dad. yeah in some cases this MAY be true. so what it doesn't change the fact they need salvation nor is the excuse normative. that is not true in every case and i was hurt badly as well. i am not homosexual.
You also make a case for the unregerate, unrepentant sinner. you did not make a case for keeping a church pure for the protection of the flick especially the children.
And not just that but why the continual argument on behalf of unrepentant sinners. what have they done? what has Christ done? Why are christians not laying a firm defense in what God has done in His atoning work? Because you are afraid of offending an unregenerate sinner and not God. I am on the fence whether i would say yeah homosexuality is the reason for this flood but it is not totally inconceivable. but again i am sorely confused why someone defends the perpetrator and not the offended.
The slippery slope that is modern evangelly fish movement. this is the apostacy of the church, seeker sensitive. Keep reprobates sinners comfortable in your church and offer them nothing while they rush violently toward hell. every pastor involved here has no choice but to remove the gospel and Jesus Christ from his church in order to substantiate his position and to keep reprobate enemies of God comfortable and invited into what they claim is His house. It started with making doctrine and classic calvinism the enemy now there are no more fences. i do agree with the other post in that church is a blessing and you must be regenerate and obedient to partake in the blessings of God. how dare these pastors invite those that stand in opposition to God into their sactuaries to receive God' blessings and sacraments
On a role and agree 100% especially the comment regarding God building into creation consequences for breaking His ordained structure. I am tired of this women empowerment argument. Scripture clearly defines her role and participation in the glorification of God and her sactification as a keeper of the home to which she blesses and nurtures her husband and children and takes a huge role in Duet 6 in the training of the children in the word of God so that a remnant is left on this earth. What could possibly be more important than that lest the proclamation of God's word is not important to you. I am tired of women seeking debased earthly gain and laying aside this and men pandering to it. Not just that they disgrace women that do take this command seriously, for they should be highly esteemed.
I have to work with women and I don't like it. I am uncomfortable, I do not want to have relationships with them at work (abstaining sexual immorality) and I think the depravity of this society reflects that.
John y is catholic his pragmatic tradition causes him to speak like this verses upholding the word of God as the standard
Didn't F F Bruce hold the old creation view as well stating we cannot ignore the findings of modern science???
Whoever (looking for corrections) it was, to think though that scripture passes the test of science! Really? How absurd the notion! To elevate the findings of so called science higher than scripture so that scripture must pass the test of science.
How low a view of God's word! Matt 22:31 have you not READ what was SPOKEN by God!
I commend Mr Ham, he is fighting valiantly and we need to support men like him who face this head on and encourage him under the attacks
If you don't quantify the definition then this isn't as absurd as you may believe.
Regenerate define moral as a standard laid forth that originates in the mind of God. Simple definition but is this fair?
Now, how are they defining the word or idea moral? If you are not thinking about this in these terms then read the story above regarding pro life speach as torture. That repugnant foundation allows some,to "subvert the truth in inrighteousness" and argue that it is right to kill as to have no accountability so one can be sexual immoral.
Why is this shocking to us? Is the tower of babel a new idea?
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