Scholium wrote:
ALL ALL ALL the glory to GOD alone. amen!
The clay vessel is nothing worthy of speaking about.

Amen!

John UK wrote:
Now that's interesting about .co.uk, and it is so helpful as I make decisions. Ta muchly.

John UK wrote:
Hello Candle Lit

Acts 13:1-4 KJV
You don't get this sort of church life any more - well, rarely. And without it, it's all man-made.
Say, do you think Americans like to see a .co.uk site or .com?

On Thursday, I ran into a couple of ladies that I had known for years. We had been members of the same churches. When I talked with them about where we were going to church, one said that they were having church in their home, the other said they were gathering with others in their home, but still attending church. I see that as a change. These changes to small groups seem to be better for fellowship and accountability and support.

DJC49 wrote:
*KING EISEGESIS* --
You make God out to be some three-headed monster, i.e., as if the 3 PERSONS of the Trinity do everything, all the time, all together.

John UK wrote:
This is one thing that all Christians are able to do, and ought to do. There are very few who could preach (it is a calling, after all) but all can tell others of the greatness of the Lord Jesus, how wonderful he is, how graciously he saves all that call upon him, how special it is to know him personally, how he holds the hand, hears prayer, satisfies the longing soul, brings joy into the heart, cleanses from every spot and stain, fills with his Spirit, guides and leads every day, reveals truth to the humble, chastises in love, and a hundred and one other ways in which he involves himself in our daily life.
Yes, I think a testimony is a powerful tool in the business of telling the world the great message that "Jesus Saves".

Thank you for affirming that one's testimony may be used by every Christian to share the love of Christ.

I'm glad that you emphasized that preaching is a calling. Baptist churches tend to emphasize that.

John UK wrote:
GoodnightallandmayGodblesseveryoneofhisbelovedchosenbloodboughtsanctifiedHolyGhostfilledjustifiedchildren.

rogerant wrote:
YOU are the one who made the arrogant prideful charge that Baptists and Charismatics HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT than Presbyterians.
It was not me who started the smear campaign. Is this how you testify to the truth?

I'm just cleaning up after dinner and I have some left-overs. If you were here, I would feed you. I think that would improve your disposition.

Hey, just thought of something . . I would be feeding my enemy. . .are you my enemy?

The Bible says that I would be heaping coals upon your head. Ohhhh.....that sounds uncomfortable.

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rogerant wrote:
Isn't it the Holy Spirit that reveals proper worship through spoken Word and sacrament rather than through dancing, personal experience, flag waiving, obscure utterances of unintelligable speach. is it not the work of the Holy Spirit that draws our attention to God's effecacious grace to the elect rather than our story about what Christ has done in our life?
The proclamation of the gospel is how God has REDEEMED sinners from God's wrath. Not how God has delivered me from myself.

prince charles wrote:
yeah i cant really see the grounds for saying that your post was an ad hominum CLT or that saying deliverance was due to the creature i dont think that was what was conveyed - maybe i missed something or im to easy going !

You've taken some hits today, and I think you've thrown a few of your own, and I'd say you are up one on DJC. I'm beginning to think I encouraged you in the wrong direction. Stick with your own Bible reading, and seeking the understanding and wisdom that only comes from the Holy Spirit.

only me wrote:
Even Paul did not claim this much power to the mortal.....
1Cor 3:7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.
Please leave the glory with God candle lit.

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Roger wrote:
An ad hominem attack, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: "argument to the person", "argument against the person") consists of replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to a characteristic or belief of the source making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim.

Candle Lit said:
HUH?????

I know from your posts that you are the "intellectual and theological elite." I am not. But, you know what, as Christians, whatever our station in life is, whatever our education, we are told to go into all the world and proclaim the gospel. It doesn't require seminary training. One who has been saved is quite capable of telling others what the Lord has done for him - thus, a testimony. We must have a testimony of what God has done in our individual lives in order to communicate it with others. The alcoholic says, "I was delivered" as does the drug addict, or the promiscuous one, or the thief, or, or, or.

DELIVERED. . . isn't that an amazing word to describe what God has done for us?

Josh wrote:
We need a study to figure this out?

Speaking of the Baptists quibbling over the HS issue -

From personal experience, the Baptists have a better understanding of the Holy Spirit than the Presbyterians. The Presbyterians rarely even mention the Holy Spirit, except somewhat mystically.

prince charles wrote:
coincidentally i finished reading the bible all the way through yesterday so i am now free to browse it, istarted reading John again this am - guess what ? i read about how peters brother came to peter and said he had found the messiah - the HS again !

P.S. I've noticed that the Brits say "lovely" often - most Americans rarely use it - it's a "lovely" word. Now, I'm sounding very British.
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DJC49 wrote:
I give up!
charles m --

If by my saying: "WRONG! Mt 16:17 says NOTHING about the HS", you want to read INTO my ADAMANTLY INSISTING that it was NOT by the Holy Spirit that the *FATHER* revealed to Peter that Jesus was the Christ, the Son of the living God, nothing is stopping you.
And if by my saying: "Where do you see it say that the Father revealed who Jesus was to Peter by the Holy Spirit -- particularly an INDWELLING Holy Spirit?" you want to read INTO my ADAMANTLY INSISTING that it was NOT by the Holy Spirit that the *FATHER* revealed to Peter that Jesus was the Christ, the Son of the living God, nothing is stopping you.
You are no longer "prince" in my book.
I am coronating you KING.
"KING EISEGESIS."

Sounds like the "peter principle" in the corporate world - promote one to the level of incompetency.

But, hey, you said it, NOT ME! I don't think that at all.

prince charles wrote:
Thanks for the input re prolapse CLT
tho i did know what it was i just put it in because it sounded like DJC's word prolepsis so i amused myself by exchanging a few letters to come up with something totaly diffrent but sounding similar - when people impugn my limited intelligence i like to pretend that im even more stupider than they first thought - childish i know but i am royalty so i can do what i like he he!

John UK wrote:
Good morning Candle Lit
I regret I have to start work at last, having got up late today. But I'll do some 'dipping' in no doubt.
DJ, later....

Mike wrote:
A working "vacation," and visiting close relatives.
Hey Candle Lit, is it possible to be antilepsis?

John UK wrote:
Candle Lit wrote:
"OTOH, it may be a very kind consideration on the part of the one posing the question, anticipating an objection, and answering thoughtfully. That wouldn't happen around here, would it?"
Correct!

prince charles wrote:
prolapse is a medical term CLT , its not a nice thing to have !

Well, there is mitral valve prolapse which is a problem with a valve of the heart.

Then, there are prolapses in other parts of the body.

I'm assuming you are speaking of those.

Prolepsis sounds like a disease, and, in fact, there is a medical term of sort.

John's cure is carrot juice and barley grass, though I don't think he was speaking of prolepsis the medical condition.

I won't speak for him, but from the definition that he gave of prolepsis, followed by his comment for a cure, I'd say "prolepsis" stems from a heart attitude - maybe, one of self-importance. And, for that, I'd say that it needs a cure.