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9/26/09 5:41 PM |
DisplacedMaritimer (Bert) | | Edmonton, AB | | | |
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Again, I have to admit that I am not a theologian, Scriptural scholar or historian. However, in the little bit of research I have done on the origins of the various Books in the Catholic Bible that do not exist in the Protestant Bible – of which Tobit is one – I discovered that they were all part of the Jewish Canon during the time of Jesus and are, therefore, part of the Holy Writ. They were removed some time later. It is not known exactly when they were removed but most sources believe it was 200 to 300 years after Jesus. I don’t know all the details of why the Jews removed them but I figure that if they were good enough for Jesus, they are good enough for me.Wayne, I didn’t say that the Pope didn’t have anything to do with the Inquisition (except the Spanish Inquisition). I said that he had nothing to do with the tortures. My point in my earlier post was simply to question the accuracy of the Richard Bennett video you referred to. Richard says that the Church murdered millions with a bunch of hideous torture devices. Yet, the historians say that there is no evidence that these devices were ever used. Regardless of anything else, if these devices were never used, it follows that the Church didn’t use them. |
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9/26/09 11:51 AM |
DisplacedMaritimer (Bert) | | Edmonton, AB | | | |
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Michael,You have only made vague statements about who you think Allah is and why you do not believe that he is Yahweh under a different name. I still don't understand your position other than it is in opposition to what JPII said. I have genuine faith in God and I know who He is through the Bible. just a thought, I haven't been purposely avoiding your question. To answer, I point you to the many passages of the Bible in support of praying to Saints - not Mary in particular, but Saints in general: Tobit 12:12, Eph 6:18, Mark 12:25-27, Heb 12:22-24, Rev 6:9-10, Rev 18:18-20,Rev 5:8 among others. Paul stated a number of times that we should all pray for one another. Praying to Saints is a continuation of that. John, Further to who Jesus wants to be saved, see 1 Timothy 2:3&4. Lurker, I checked out the "Hard Questions To Ask Good Catholics" and, as usual, it is nonsensical. Anyone with even a passing knowledge of what Catholicism is can easily see through the claims being made there. I find those kind of sites strengthens my belief that the Catholic Church is the true Church of Jesus Christ. If it wasn't, the claims made would be better researched and closer to the truth. As it is, they are bogus. |
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9/26/09 10:16 AM |
DisplacedMaritimer (Bert) | | Edmonton, AB | | | |
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Lurker,Jesus said "Do this in memory of me". That is EXACTLY what every priest does, every day, in the Mass. We don't igonre ANY part of the Bible. Wayne, Yes I watched tha video and I also found it to be quite revealing - although I suspect in a differnt way than you. A few months ago, there was a show on the History Channel (I think it was) that went into a lot of detail about the various torture devices that wer available during the Middle Ages. At first, I thought that it would be just another Catholic bashing show but I stuck with it because it was interesting. They showed some very hideous devices and explained how they worked. Then, the one of the experts made an interesting comment: He said that there was little to no evidence that most of these devices were ever used. Further, another expert took the design of a device and built one to test it. It failed. In spite of all of the nastly, hideous diagrams discovered depicting the device and what it could do, they proved that it could never have worked. Yet all these very same devices showed up in Richard's video with the claim that the Catholic Church used them many times to murder millions. So, who is correct? The experts on the History Channel or Richard Bennett? |
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9/25/09 11:37 PM |
DisplacedMaritimer (Bert) | | Edmonton, AB | | | |
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Hi Wayne,I watched one of the videos with Richard Bennett. He seems to be sincere but rather misguided. He made quite a few statements that I thought were rather odd for a priest - current or former. He claimed that there were beliefs in Catholicism that simply aren't true. I have been going through the videos just a thought suggested and it is the same drivel over and over again. If they would be truthful and less melodramatic, they may produce a good, interesting and edifying video that could be used by Catholics and Protestants alike. Instead, they are more like political advertisements during an election bashing Catholicism. I find it rather unchristian to tear a strip off someone or something without proposing some sort of remedy for the perceived wrongs. Michael, I know who God the Father is. I just don’t understand why you are so reluctant to explain who you believe Allah is. Can you please state in unambiguous terms who you believe God the Father, Jesus, The Holy Spirit, Yahweh and Allah are and their relationships? What, exactly, is your concern about praying to the Saints in Heaven? Do you believe that the Saints can pray for us? Or do you consider the act of praying to a Saint a form of idolatry? |
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9/25/09 10:56 PM |
DisplacedMaritimer (Bert) | | Edmonton, AB | | | |
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Michael Hranek wrote: Jesus is Yahweh in human flesh so the rejection He experience by the Jews (and by the Muslims today) doesn't make Yahweh a false god in the least. Who, then, is God the Father?
Michael Hranek wrote: by the way I though you Catholics supposedly didn't pray to Mary? Bert wrote: "If I want Mary to intercede for me, I have to pray to her and ask." So apparently you violate the 1ST Commandment and sin against your Creator in having other "gods" besides Yahweh in this case a lesser being "saint" whom you pretend really isn't some kind of lesser diety but to whom you pray as if she were a goddess. Look up the meaning of the word "pray". It means simply to ask. It does not mean that I am worshipping the person I pray to as a god or goddess. There was a very common english expression "I pray thee" which simply means that I ask you. |
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9/25/09 9:52 PM |
DisplacedMaritimer (Bert) | | Edmonton, AB | | | |
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Hi John,I learned that our God is a God of Love. That He wants ALL of us to be members of the elect who are welcomed into Heaven. But, as I mentioned to Chalkstone, we all have free will and can accept Jesus or reject Him. It is all up to us. Mike wrote: Previously posted: Jesus said "I am the way, the truth, and the life..." To deny that which is true, is to believe in that which is false. Easy, no? The problem with that approach is that since the Jews also reject Jesus, your argument insists that Yahweh is also a false god.Just a thought, My statements are not contradictory. If I want Mary to intercede for me, I have to pray to her and ask. But, I am under no obligation whatsoever to pray to her or any other Saint. No one REQUIRES the intercession of any Saint. But if help is so readily available to you, why would you not take advantage of it? I know that I need all the help I can get. |
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9/25/09 6:51 PM |
DisplacedMaritimer (Bert) | | Edmonton, AB | | | |
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Michael,Yu have been beating this "Allah is a false god" horse for quite a while. Yet you haven't provided any evidence to support your claim. I know that JPII was a brilliant man and an exceptional theologian and philosopher. With all due respect, Michael, I think that his credentials out weigh yours. John, 1) Because God did not open their minds to understand. 2) I'm not 100% sure. I seem to recall reading an explanation but I can't remember what it was 3) Yes. 4) Because we have free will. He offers us salvation but many refuse His offer. 5) God has alwas used prophets to try to bring the wayward back to Himself. Jesus continued this by commissioning preachers to spread God's Word. Whatever way He decides on, one thing is for sure: it won't be by force. Remember Sodom and Gomorrah. |
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9/25/09 11:56 AM |
DisplacedMaritimer (Bert) | | Edmonton, AB | | | |
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protest,1) So what was the Garden of Eden? An idyllic place where you could talk to God face to face. That sounds a lot like Heaven to me.... 2) Then why did Jesus say that many are called but few are chosen? If all of those called were the elect, then all of them should be chosen. Did Jesus err? 3) See 2) above. I didn't say that mortals have control over God's Will. God offers us grace - He doesn't force it upon us. OK, show me the Reformation in Scripture. Many people are quick to offer up the "Scriptura sola" argument so show me where Scripture references the Reformation. How do you know that the Pope is the antichrist? It would seem to me that if the Pope was the antichrist, we wouldn't keep getting new ones. Isn't the antichrist supposed to be immortal? If your claim is true, why can't the current 1.3 billion Catholics or the untold billions of Catholics who have died see any of this? Many of those people were a lot smarter than we are. Can you show me examples of these heresies, fallicious dogmas, etc? Chalkstone, What is your point vis a vis 1 John 4:6? Show me how I do not know God if that is what you are saying. |
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9/25/09 10:22 AM |
DisplacedMaritimer (Bert) | | Edmonton, AB | | | |
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1) Adam & Eve already had Salvation and they lost it by disobeying God. They had free will and they used it to their detriment.2) Matt 22:1-14 is Jesus explaining how many people are called but few are chosen - contrary to your position that God calls and we obey. If everyone called obeyed, then all would be chosen. 3) That is not works based religion. It is the exercising of the free will God gave us. I didn't say that it was a good idea to say "no" to God, just that it is possible. Remember, satan was an angel at one point and he said "no" to God. Fact: ALL mortals have been given the free will to refuse or accept God. How did I prove that the Reformation was ordained by God? If you truly believe in the concept of "Scriptura sola" then you would reject the Reformation without another thought. How can I or any other mortal prove something that is extra-Biblical to be true? I worship the One True God. If you believe otherwise, please show me how I am wrong. You haven't yet. I hope that the Lord saves you as well. |
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9/24/09 7:27 PM |
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just a thought,I've only watched the first one, but it is garbage. I have never said that we must go through Mary for anything. I said the opposite: we do not *have* to pray to Mary (or any other saint) at all. Michael, Yes, the Catholic Church does teach that Jesus will abide in us. We are also taught that He will never leave or forsake us. We pray to Mary for the same reason we pary to all saints: To help us to be the Christians that God wants us to be and for intercessions with God for others. John, It is rather difficult to read, isn't it? Why condemn the entire Catholic Church on account of one individual? Yes, there are people - even some in the Magisterium - who seem to be less than Christ-like in the Catholic Church. But, Jesus did call us sinners, didn't He? As a matter of fact, if there were no sinners in the Catholic Church, I would abandon it in a big hurry. |
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9/24/09 5:19 PM |
DisplacedMaritimer (Bert) | | Edmonton, AB | | | |
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Chalkstone,1) Yes, God has mercy on whomever He pleases. Just as with Moses and Adam & Eve (among others) we have the God-given right to say "no" to God. 2) Matt 22:1-14 3) I did not say anything about works. I simply pointed out that wee can say "no" to God. Michael, Jesus needs no assistant but we do. Mary acts like any mother would whose children have offended their father. She pleads our case before Jesus if we ask her to. The Eucharist is the Body and Blood of Jesus just as He said. Tradition in the Catholic Church is subordinate to the Bible, always. Peter means "Rock". Jesus was an only child. There is no compelling evidence to the contrary. |
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9/24/09 4:58 PM |
DisplacedMaritimer (Bert) | | Edmonton, AB | | | |
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Hi John,I found [URL=http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/NTpdf/]]]the site[/URL] Wanye mentioned. The translation of John 3:5 is: answerED JESUS AMEN AMEN I-AM-sayING to-YOU IF-EVER NO ANY MAY-BE-BEING-generatED OUT OF-water AND OF-spirit NOT he-IS-ABLE TO-BE-INTO-COMING INTO THE KINGdom OF-THE God Kinda thows a wrench in the gears . It has neither "of water and spirit" nor "of water and of the spirit". Instead it says "of water and of spirit". So, are we looking at one event or two? I am inclined to say one because when you put the word "the" in front of a noun, you are referring to a specific instance of whatever the noun refers to. So, "the Spirit" would normally refer to the Holy Spirit. Without the "the" there, though, it is just referring to spirits in general or the spiritual realm. I'll have to spend some more time on John 3:8 to figure out what is being said. I have to admit that I was disappointed in your comment about the Catholic Church. |
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9/24/09 10:45 AM |
DisplacedMaritimer (Bert) | | Edmonton, AB | | | |
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John UK,You seem to have missed the point being made. Notice that the article says "In Greek, this phrase is, literally, "born of water and Spirit," indicating one birth of water-and-Spirit, rather than "born of water and of the Spirit," as though it meant two different births—one birth of water and one birth of the Spirit." so Jesus was referring to ONE birth, not TWO. Michael, Jesus is the sole mediator between us and God. Mary, as comediatrix, is His assistant, not His equal. We do not HAVE to go through Mary if we don't want to. Which Sacrament(s) shows that we do not trust what Jesus did for us on the Cross? Oral Tradition does nothing to diminish the authority of the Bible. On the contrary, we are instructed to hold to our traditions: "Therefore, brothers, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught, either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours" (2 Thess 2:15). The name "Peter" given to Simon by Jesus Himself means "Rock". |
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