So glad you are posting again! It seemed like something was missing while you were away. When you older bunch quit posting, I cant help but wonder if the good Lord took you home.

A little leaven leavenths the whole lump John.

Your hypocritical tripe and trollish antics will not be missed.

God bless.

"This ought to be the care of all who profess the Christian faith, that they be new creatures; not only that they have a new name, and wear a new livery, but they have a new heart and new nature. And so great is the change the grace of God makes in the soul, that, as it follows, old things are passed away - old thoughts, old principles, and old practices are passed away; and all these things must be come new. Note, regenerating grace creates a new world in the soul; all things are new. The renewed man acts from new principles, by new rules, with new ends, and in new company."

Hebrews 9:13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh: 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

I posted those verses to show that if there is no sanctification in ones life, there was never any regeneration, thats all. Of course, sanctification is not immediate and is an on going process like you said. I see you have many people to respond to, so Ill leave you alone.

Of couse the verses I posted were about discipleship and sanctification thats the point. The Holy Spirits work of sanctification leads us away from that which is contrary to Gods word. If there is no sanctification in ones life, there was never any regeneration. Again, I am not saying Christians do not sin, but there most definitely is a change in attitude towards sin, and a desire to obey God. But if you wish to demonstrate salvation with no sanctification, you go right ahead.

James 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

1 Corinthians 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

Book, chapter, and verse please.

I'll be praying for you brother.