B. McCausland wrote:
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Further more the atonement was available to gentiles also. See:
"in the seventh month, on the tenth day of the month, ye shall afflict your souls, and do no work at all,
whether it be one of your own country, or a stranger that sojourns among you" Lev 16

Ephesians 2:12

John UK wrote:
Bonny, you are amazed that there is an universal atonement? This is easily proven from the OT Day of Atonement. Unless you actually believe that all the Jews were all saved, every last one.

2 Cor 5
14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then WERE ALL DEAD:

15 And that he DIED FOR ALL, that they WHICH LIVE should not henceforth LIVE UNTO THEMSELVES, but unto him which DIED for them, and ROSE AGAIN.

Now view the above verse in light of the below verse. It is the same point being made.

Rom 6
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are DEAD to sin, LIVE any longer therein?

3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized INTO HIS DEATH?

4 Therefore we are BURIED WITH HIM BY BAPTISM INTO DEATH: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should WALK in newness of LIFE.

5 For if we have been planted together in the LIKENESS OF HIS DEATH, we shall be also in the LIKENESS OF HIS RESURECTION:

you are not understanding this part John 'DIED FOR ALL, that they WHICH LIVE'

Carol wrote:
Once read this in a commentary of Romans.
"As one enters though the gates of Heaven, written on the gate is the scripture "and whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely".
As the gate closes, written on the other side is the scripture "according as He hath chosen us in Him before the foundation of the world..."
Lovely.

Isaiah 55

55 Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.

2 Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.

3 Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.

Christopher000 wrote:
Thanks John and Kev, and Kev...yes, always beneficial to others, for sure.

Colossians 1:27

27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of THIS MYSTERY among the Gentiles; WHICH IS CHRIST IN YOU, THE HOPE OF GLORY:

This is the mystery that has been hidden and is now manifest which is our hope which is Christ in you.

We see things much differently John that is ok it is not my job to convince you. I just hope you are at least trying to hear what I am saying.

John UK wrote:
progressive sanctification going on, for which God is to be praised.
Oops.

C.H. Spurgeon

I do not admire the term "progressive sanctification," for it is unwarranted by Scripture. But it is certain that the Christian does grow in Grace. And though his conflict may be as severe on the last day of his life as in the first moment of conversion, yet he does advance in Grace and all his imperfections and his conflicts within cannot prove that he has not made progress.

https://www.ccel.org/ccel/spurgeon/sermons10.xlvii.html

John UK wrote:
Okay Kev, let's look at:
John 9:5 KJV
(5)  As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.
The first "world" is obviously (in his day) Galilee, Samaria, Judea. In other words, wherever he went.
The second "world" is all Galileeans...

This addresses the above verse.

So now if I take this verse at face value Christ is only the light when He is in the world, your other comment was that Jesus is the light of the whole world. Maybe this verse is talking about something else. Compare with this:

John 11:10
But if a man WALK IN THE NIGHT, he stumbleth, because there is NO LIGHT IN HIM.

I believe there is more to this verse and it is prophetic. As long as Christ is IN YOU He is that Light. Christ is that light that is IN the world of HIS PEOPLE.

1 Thessalonians 5:5
Ye are all the CHILDREN OF LIGHT, and the CHILDREN OF THE DAY: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

Dr. Tim wrote:
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. (John 3:17)

John 6:37-39

37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

“And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.”

In what way is Jesus the light of all those who walk in darkness?

1 John 1:6-8

6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

There is no sense in which Jesus is the light of every man, as many are in darkness John. Maybe the sense of John 1:9 is that every man who has any light gets it from Jesus Christ. Some are sent into even more darkness Because they reject Jesus Christ. Walking with Jesus is the only way anyone has any light.

What is the sense of the light that Jesus gives other than it is spiritual light and life. Your 'every man' part is the same as 'all men' and 'world'.

Dr. Tim wrote:
And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. (1 John 2:2)

John 6:33

33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and GIVETH LIFE TO THE WORLD.

So in the above who is it that is signified by world. Keep in mind:

John 5:40

40 And ye will not come to me, THAT YE MIGHT HAVE LIFE.

Now read this verse carefully who is world here:

John 8:12

12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the LIGHT OF THE WORLD: he that FOLLOWETH me SHALL not walk in DARKNESS, but shall have the LIGHT OF LIFE.

Jesus says those follow Him are the ones who have light.

Now look below who is the world spoken of? I’ll give you a hint it’s not the Jews and it’s not the riches of the unbelievers

Rom 11

12 Now if the fall of THEM be the RICHES OF THE WORLD, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

John 6:44

44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

If you interpret scripture with scripture you will see the picture clearer.

John 10

14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am KNOWN OF MINE.

15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my LIFE FOR THE SHEEP.

27 My SHEEP HEAR MY VOICE, and I know them, and they follow me:

5 But he was wounded FOR OUR transgressions, he was bruised for OUR iniquities: the chastisement of OUR peace was upon him; and with his stripes WE ARE HEALED.

6 All we like SHEEP have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity OF US ALL.

Who is the US? Us are addresses as sheep. You are reading ALL into it when it’s US ALL and it is written to the people of God. With the the stripes that Jesus receceived it doesn’t say they may be healed but they ARE HEALED.

Your not understanding what the verse is saying below. It is being written to Jews who have turned to Christ
1 John 2:2

2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

The first part the Apostle is saying that Jesus is the propitiation for our sins talking about Jews then he goes on to say not just for our sins, as salvation was not to the Gentiles before this point, but to the whole world meaning all people groups.

It was common to call the Gentiles the world at that time. Here is a def. of world out of strongs.

Matthew 13
And he spake many things unto them in parables, saying, Behold, a sower went forth to sow;

4 And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side, and the fowls came and devoured them up:

5 Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth:

6 And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away.

7 And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them:

8 But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold.

Did the sower not cast the good seed of the Gospel on all grounds and wait on God to give the increase.