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7/24/10 7:46 PM |
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to continueThe believers’ inheritance was already prepared before this world was created: “Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world” (Matthew 25:34) So Why The Cross? A logical question at this point is, “If Christ already made the payment before this world was created, then why did He go to the cross?” Christ had already made the payment for sin prior to Creation, so from a judicial standpoint there was no need for Christ to go to the cross. This is why God recorded that no sin was found in Christ:“Then said Pilate to the chief priests and to the people, I find no fault in this man.” (Luke 23:4) In the past we’ve always understood this to be stating the obvious: Jesus Himself never sinned. We would say He was carrying our sins, but He Himself was without sin. However, now we can better understand why God put this in the Bible. True, Jesus Himself was without sin, but at that point He wasn’t carrying the elect’s sins either because they had already been paid for before Creation. Now we know that Christ went to the cross so He could demonstrate His love: “In this was manifested t we might live ...... (1 John 4:9) |
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7/24/10 7:37 PM |
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to continueChrist was already God’s begotten Son before He was sent into the world: “In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.” (1 John 4:9) We know that Christ had to die, both in body and soul, in order to become begotten when resurrected. Why then does God call Him the begotten Son even before the cross? Before The Foundation Of The World Christ was already the begotten Son before 7 BC because the cross was not the first time He suffered. Christ had already been slain to pay for sins before this world was even created: “And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.” (Revelation 13:8) Christ finished the work of paying for sins before this world was created: “For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.” (Hebrews 4:3) |
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7/24/10 6:43 PM |
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to continue “Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead” (Romans 1:3-4)This is admittedly difficult to grasp so let’s briefly recap what we’ve discussed: Christ is from eternity past. In order to be begotten He had to have a beginning. In order to have a beginning He had to, in a spiritual sense that we can’t understand, be spiritually dead. This is what happened when He paid for the sins of the believers. He paid the penalty all unsaved individuals must eventually pay: eternal death, both body and soul. Now we have a problem though. God refers to Christ as His begotten Son even before Christ ever went to the cross: “No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.” (John 1:18) “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” (John 3:16) |
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7/24/10 6:32 PM |
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to continueWe used to believe the unsaved would be punished for sin by having to spend an eternity in a place called hell being tormented forever. We therefore deduced that, in order to pay for the sins of the believers, Christ had to endure the equivalent of spending an eternity in hell. However, now we know that the unsaved will not spend an eternity in hell. The punishment for sin is eternal death, both body and soul. Once this world has been destroyed, the unsaved will completely cease to exist (see Study on Hell). To fully pay for the sins of the believers, Christ would have had to be put through the equivalent of eternal spriitual death. We can’t fully comprehend this, but it would have to have been a resurrection from the equivalent of annihilation. This is why Christ is spoken of as being begotten. He is from eternity past, but He had a beginning in that He came back from the equivalent of annihilation. That is how He was begotten and that is why the Father can accurately refer to Him as His begotten Son. This is further supported in Romans where God declares that Christ could only be a Son by being resurrected from the dead: |
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7/24/10 6:09 PM |
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to continueHow Was Christ Begotten? God calls Christ His only begotten Son: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” (John 3:16) The phrase “only begotten” comes from the Greek word monogenes, which is literally translated “only generated.” We know Christ is from eternity past so the idea that God created (or “generated”) Christ doesn’t square with the rest of the Bible. This is probably why the translators chose to use the word “begotten” instead of “generated.” However, the fact still remains: in order to be begotten, Christ would have had to have a beginning. We know His existence didn’t begin in 7 BC; that’s just when He took on a human nature. As we examine this closer we will discover that 7 BC has nothing to do with why He is called the begotten Son. |
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6/7/09 6:07 PM |
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June ...very good comment,but I wonder who does the POPE confess to???Pope offers apology for sex abuse 23 countries report incidents by priests Richard Boudreaux, Los Angeles Times Friday, November 23, 2001 In an unprecedented event for the Catholic Church, Pope J... (11-23) 04:00 PDT Rome -- Pope John Paul II offered an apology yesterday for sexual abuse by Roman Catholic clergy, saying it had caused the victims "great suffering and spiritual harm" and had damaged the church. John Paul's message, said by the Vatican to be the first personally sent by a pope over the Internet, also followed a series of articles by the National Catholic Reporter quoting internal Vatican reports about sexual abuse of nuns and other women by priests and bishops.
According to reports cited by the U.S. weekly last spring, some priests and missionaries forced nuns to have sex with them and, in several instances, committed rape and obliged the victims to have abortions. The reports covered cases in 23 countries. The Vatican, in response to the articles, acknowledged that the problem existed and said an investigation was under way. Yesterdays NEWS is still todays NEWS ! |
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6/5/09 8:04 PM |
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Stringfellow ...thanks for the tip bing.com i went ther and found this ...It's very interesting that the Bible states expressly that we are not to make any graven images to aid in our worship of the One True God. Ex. 20:4-6 "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earthbeneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments." And yet, the"RCC" says the opposite, for example, the worship of the cross, the veneration of relics. Then get a load of the this . . . "kissing the pope's TOE! I wonder if they mean his big toe ? I firnly believe they make these things up as they go along . . . what say you ? 13. Kissing the pope s foot, began with pope Constantine; 709 14. Temporal power of the popes, conferred by Pepin, king of France; 750 15. Worship of the cross, images and relics, authorized in; 786 |
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6/2/09 4:51 PM |
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June & Jim....The cat is out of the bag don't you think? This POPE has his prieststake vows of secrecy......When they mis behave they have to keep it a secret i wonder what happens to them if " THEY SPILL THE BEANS"???? Souce: Los Angeles Times Link: http://articles.latimes.com/2004/jun/20/local/me-priests20 Vatican Aware of Abuse for Centuries, Study Says
By William Lobdell, Times Staff Writer June 20, 2004 In that year, Pope John XXIII approved the publication of a procedure that instructed bishops to require those involved in the investigations, including the accuser and witnesses, to take vows of secrecy. Even the 1962 document itself was to be kept by bishops in their secret archives, and they were ordered not to discuss it. any one have an idea what happens ? question ....do the NUNS take the same vow of secrecy? who in their RIGHT MIND would advertise on this station? |
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