Faithful Remnant wrote:
No, they do not, John, or at least not every word in them. Some Lutherans such as myself emphasize Justification by faith alone instead of a sacramental view of redemption.

Faithful Remnant wrote:
Both Jim and John know little of Lutheran doctrine, since Lutherans confess the five solas...faith alone, grace alone, scripture alone, etc. so are not so heterodox as Jim and John would make them to be. We know the RCC is heterodox, but what about IHCC, Jim? Possibly something there is just not right or is it right enough...or is perfect and free of any error in its interpretation of the scriptures?

Faithful Remnant wrote:
Ok. And that means?????? That Lutherans have majority of Catholic doctrines? I don't think so. You still have to deal with the Lutheran(and broader Protestant) emphasis on faith alone, scripture alone and Christ alone as head of the Church. I go to a Lutheran church and hear how important faith is. Without faith, we cannot please God. Without it we are condemned no matter if baptized and partaking of communion. And if you studied Lutheran doctrine, I think you would see this..that without faith, baptism and communion are empty and of no avail. It goes back to faith...and that only, so the two are still quite different.

Faithful Remnant wrote:
No, John, he did not retain most....clerical celibacy, infallibility of the pope, tradition's equality with scripture, allowing both wine and bread to be partaken in communion, praying to saints, among others. He and others before and after him taught scripture alone, Christ alone, and other important doctrines which are anathema in the Roman church. You apparently don't see a big difference between the two, but I see a particular difference and an important one, namely the primacy of scripture for protestants instead of the primacy of others' opinions and that Christ only is the only infallible head of the Church. Again there are some important differences which set Protestants apart from Catholics...again they are the primacy of Scripture and the primacy of Christ..and of course faith, grace and God's glory according to his foreknowledge, will and purpose. Protestants would do well to safeguard these and not compromise them.
Lance, the Cathoic Church here seems quite adamant to keep using Latin(the liturgical texts anyway) in the services. Why?

Bob O. wrote:
Sarah Palin is about as much a born again Christian as George Bush is.
A real Christian woman would not plan on running off for an 8-year job 5,000 miles away when she's just had a Down's Syndrom baby.
Also - a real Christian woman would not expose her 17-year-old daughter's un-wed pregancy problem for the whole world to see.
Sarah Palin's priority is - Sarah Palin and her career. This woman is a Jezebel.
Once again too many American Christians have been snookered by the phony Christians that the Republican Party trots out.

Sandie wrote:
I am voting for Gov. Sarah Palin. I think she is awesome.
Why is it that some "Christians" know little about God's way, the Bible and His Kingdom.
Sarah Palin is not usurping spiritual authority over any man. She's not trying to be a Pastor. She is running for VP of the U.S.
It's amazing that "Christian" men will stand by and let this country be taken over by a muslim, bent on disarming this country and destroying it.
The traditions of men ...
Psalm 31 describes a working mother who is blessed by God, not condemned.

Jim Lincoln wrote:
You're right, John, just because McCain isn't a member of a particular church, that doesn't mean he's a Christian, however, if he is a member of a church such as the Roman Catholic one, and preaches [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=5504151546]]]The Doctrine of Apostates[/URL], then you can be fairly certain that he isn't a Christian, unless that person plans to leave that church quickly.
Gentlemen! The www.bible.org site has a comparison site on looking at a verse in the Bible as given the Bible and then has the translators' notes from the NET bible on that verse, e.g., [URL=http://net.bible.org/verse.php?search=Matthew%206:13&book=Matthew&chapter=6&verse=13]]]Matthew 6:13[/URL], look it over.

Moonwalker wrote:
If anyone on this site thinks that John McCain is a "Christian" you apparently do not know what constitutes Christianity!
John McCain is about as much a Christian as Satan is!

Born Again wrote:
If Palin was a Christian the first thing she would have said when she got to the microphone was my name is Sara Palin and I am a born again Christian, washed in the Blood of the Lamb Christ Jesus. Did she do that?

hidemi williges wrote:
One thing that I don't understand is if McCain has been going to this Church for 15 years, why isn't he a member?

Locke wrote:
This is the most blasphemous statement yet uttered on these boards. She can't rule consistently with Scripture because Scripture condemns her "ruling" period, unless it ruling her unruly and wayward, promiscuous and partying teenage daughters and caring for her 4-month old baby. There is not a Christian alive that will ever "support her" nor "work with her" unless they are apostates serving a false Jesus and preaching a false gospel.
We do not agree with Palin's liberal feminist values nor her attempts to legislate morality nor her nepotism nor her numerous lies (claiming to have been against the Bridge to Nowhere, only to find she was all for it until Congress said they wouldn't pay for the whole project, her daughter had "mono," etc.). While you play political games, and degrade the godly women of the Bible by comparing them with this ambitious feminist we Christians know that God has no intention of reforming the pagan, Satanic governments of this world and that the kingdom of God is the only true solution to man's woes.

Locke wrote:
Then she ought to be serve the Lord Jesus Christ instead of being a useless tool to get the immoral adulterer McCain in office. She isn't responsible for Obama's election, that is God's sovereign decision. I'm sick of seeing these liberal "feminist" ideas masquerading as genuine religion.

enough already wrote:
John Y. - don't play dumb, winning the lottery is not of God. God wants us to depend and rely upon Him for our daily bread, not some hoax the state set up and others spend money on dreaming of riches. It is not about how much was given, it is about where the money originated from, it is 'tainted' because it is gambling. Of course, the RCC does not teach the evils of riches, so I can see why you lack discernment.