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News Item5/11/19 2:35 PM
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B. McCausland wrote:
Excellent
Every blessing
Thank you sister, and every blessing be your's also.

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B. McCausland wrote:
1. Yes, John, our society is not driven by facts. People have been trained not to think, but to 'feel' about matters.
All works by afilliation, personal preference / convenience, but not by rational evaluation of truth.
Thanks for your input.
2. Such tricks happened most of time in theological debates
Tricks is a very good word for it.

Thank you sister for your encouragement. I have no doubt you could say a whole deal on this subject.

When I'm gone, I would love to be remembered on SA as one of those Christians who would not simply use one or two proof texts, but as one who observed the entire scripture to try to arrive at God's truth on any subject.


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Unprofitable Servant wrote:
You have even commented negatively about some Calvinist here who think there is no human interaction in salvation.
It is interesting Bro US that when David wished to demolish the Calvinist doctrine of Limited Atonement, he went to verses like "made atonement for all". And when the Calvinist wishes to demolish the Arminist doctrine of universal atonement, they go for a verse like "made atonement for many". Both of them are being deceptive.

However, David was being even more deceptive in saying that John Calvin and Calvinism believes in limited atonement. I have personally shown here many times, and you may remember it, when I quoted from Calvin's commentary, and proved that he actually believed that Christ died as an atonement for the sins of the whole world.

But this doesn't suit David Cloud's argument, so he lies about it, and nobody is any the wiser about his subterfuge, they lap up his (false) teaching, and then spread the same lies themselves. And no-one thinks there is any need to check up on it, so they take it as read. And that makes David a PP.

And yes, some Calvinists also are in grievous error about how God saves a sinner.


News Item5/11/19 1:23 PM
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No problem Rnel, and thanks for your reply. I wish I had grappled more with the subject in hand, but every time I tried it made my head spin and I could get nowhere with it. I think it's true to say that many brethren and sisters will discover that their interpretation of Revelations was incorrect, even if their salvation was certain and they were truly born again of the Spirit. But which ones are incorrect I do not know. However, if you wish to post any more of your thoughts on the matter, be assured that I will ponder all and see if I can see what you see.

I'll begin by pondering the text you mentioned, Rev 18:24 and take it from there and see where it leads. It will make a good study for me on Sunday. Thanks again.


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Dolores wrote:
John, I know Jesus was talking about the signs of the end time when he mentioned the fig tree .Like you quoted that in Jesus’s parables the fig tree was symbolic of Israel. The withered fig symbolizes the fruitless, sinful Israel at that time. All I am saying is they will rebuild the temple in which the Antichrist will set himself up in their rebuilt temple as ther Messiah to be worshipped by them. I don’t claim to know all about the end time. Who and when will the Antichrist appear??!! Will there be a rapture or will we have to go through the Great Tribulation?? I don’t know the hour or time but I can look at the signs all around me and see that the fig tree is putting on it’s leaves and Israel just back in her land that was given to her by God is a sign that tells me that in order for the temple to be rebuilt Israel had to be back in her land. If anyone disagrees with me that’s more than ok. with me because I don’t agree with everything posted on this forum.
It is all perfectly possible, Dolores, just as you say.

It is also possible that the plant withered just because Jesus cursed it.

I am keeping an open mind.


News Item5/11/19 12:22 PM
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Tim, I have just been listening to a PP preacher here on SA and the subject is "The Calvinism Debate". The visiting preacher is David Cloud, and it is very clear from the outset that he hates Calvinism and wants to demolish it.

I listened to over half of it, but it was just getting silly and boring. Why do I say that?

David begins by defining Calvinism as Tulip. But he obviously doesn't know that John Calvin never came up with Tulip, that came much later.

Now how do you defeat Calvinism? Just the same as Democrats tried to defeat the Republicans. Dig up as much dirt as you can on the opponent, and spread it before people and say, "Do you want to be involved with this man?" So David does this with John Calvin, and uses half-truths and possible lies also.

Then he says, "I have a right to analyse Calvinism's Tulip and reject the whole thing." However, he forgot to mention that he agrees with the fifth point, making him a one-pointer.

Then he says, "I am not a Calvinist and I am not Arminian." Then he goes on for the whole message to try and prove the doctrines of Arminians.

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Dr. Tim wrote:
So as I understand it, John, your solution to alleged misrepresentations of Calvinists by IFB preachers is to misrepresent IFB churches. Hmmm...
Tim, you call the misrepresentations of Calvinists by IFB preachers "alleged" whereas you say I misrepresent IFB churches. In other words, you are saying that you are right and I am wrong, but you do not come up with any proof of such. I am supposed to just take your word for it? That is yet another example of PP subterfuge.

Now if you were to say, "Well brother, if you would like to come up with some proof yourself", tell me what sort of proof you would like and I will see what I can do. For example, do you accept David Cloud as a good example of the IFB movement? Is there an IFB conference that you would accept as representative? Or none of the above. I am willing to show you exactly what I mean, and give you proof that IFB men misrepresent the beliefs of the believers who hold to the beautiful doctrines of grace, and in so doing actually seek to dethrone God and remove from him the glory due to his name.


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sc wrote:
As an aside- I read in the Bible that one is to not remarry another if the spouse which they divorce or have been divorced from is still living. I never hear this preached. Input is welcome. It would seem that the church has been allowing for that which it shouldn't have.
Be encouraged SC, I preach it, and I know it can be heartbreaking for some people who desire forbidden fruit. But far better to obey God and realise that divorce and remarriage is not an option.

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cont...

So anyway, it is a cause of concern to me that many so-called churches misrepresent the doctrines and overall teaching of those churches which believe the biblical doctrines of free and sovereign grace. It concerns me because the Holy Spirit will be grieved, the church will end up having to do things in the flesh, and eventually that leads to apostasy.

So, what sort of things do these churches say?

They say that Calvinists believe that God forces people to become Christians against their will.

Well, that is a plain lie, and no Calvinist on these threads believes that. It is a nonsense. So why do they say it?

It is for the same reason that Democrat politicians tell lies about Republicans. It is an attempt firstly to bring people over to their side, and prevent those who have already come over from returning. It is an evil technique and I watch with interest the posts every day on this very thing, where people are talking about this. Jim Lincoln is a classic example of this, and is why I never reply to him.

So PP's in the IFB churches poke fun at Calvinists and tell lies about what they believe, in order to keep their converts; not by feeding them from the word, but by making all other churches appear idiots.


News Item5/11/19 7:40 AM
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Dr. Tim wrote:
Okay, now I follow you, John. I don’t think anything of the Elims, as I have never heard of them before now.
Wow. Okay, brief potted history.

"The Azusa Street Revival was a historic revival meeting that took place in Los Angeles, California, and is the origin of the Pentecostal movement. It was led by William J. Seymour, an African American preacher. It began with a meeting on April 9, 1906, and continued until roughly 1915."

PP's in abundance in Azusa Street, don't you know.

Christopher, yes you answered the question mighty fine. And if we had some Elims join us on the forum they would be mighty upset and argue with you from now until the cows come home.

The bottom line is: What is Truth?

I say, especially regarding the salvation of souls, "the Biblical Doctrines of Free and Sovereign Grace" is the truth. And this is where the sparks start to fly, and I get called all sorts of names for my stance. And because the IFB churches all disagree with me, they have to protect their flocks somehow from being influenced, and this is why their PP's are so important to them.


News Item5/11/19 7:27 AM
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Christopher000 wrote:
Hi John, what's an Elim? I just did a search, but came up with everything from oilfield work to software development...ha-ha.
Ha!

Sorry bro I was out of space and had to make it short. You can choose between the Elim Pentecostals and the Assembly of God Pentecostals.

I ought to say that the IFB churches as a whole do not have fellowship with any other body of believers, seeing as they believe in separation from all apostates. I'm not saying that the Elims are believers, just that the IFB stance is one of separation from all other churches not of their ilk, believing them to be detrimental to their own spiritual life. It's a bit like me saying I stand aloof from all ecumenical churches in the UK, because their purpose in life is to destroy the gospel.

BTW, check out my post 5/11/19 4.41am where I said I would never use that expression again, as it upsets people, but change it to PP (Psychological Preacher).


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Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Also, while I know what you’re trying to say just for clarification, are you saying there is no emotional response from a sinner under the convicting power of the Holy Spirit?
No, I never said that, bro.

cont...

What are PP's all about? I've already mentioned that PP's can be found in any and every denomination or independent church. They can found among politicians, among fundraisers, among global money-grubbers like Benny Hinn or Kenneth Copeland. They are everywhere. You turn on the TV, they are there, all the time. It's just that hardly a soul notices. They are hoodwinkers, con artists, deceivers. Those friends of mine who believe global warming thing is a myth, are evaluating the proponents and saying that they are PP's who are not basing their message on facts but appealing to the emotions. And it works! Around the world there are now multitudes working for zero carbon emissions and reducing the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. The success of such a mission is all down to the psyche of people, not the working of the Holy Ghost, or the revealing of facts. This is what my friends are saying.

Okay, let's talk about the Elims. Chris, Tim, what do you think of the Elims? You go first.


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Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Thanks John for your response. Just for clarification on this part of it, are you saying childless couples shouldn’t adopt?
No.

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Now when it comes to Christian preachers, Wayfarer, you can see it has nothing to do with Bible versions, nor even denominations. The PP is a technique, pure and simple, and some Christians use that technique every time they preach. And they influence their hearers, and the hearers become just like them. An example of this is J4, who acts on here just like the preachers he listens to. The fact that he parrots their half-truths and lies shows that.

Are there examples of PP's? Sure. Most crusade evangelists are PP's. Ever watched a Billy Graham crusade from start to finish? Did you see the technique which affects emotions, aided and abetted at the end by such hypnotic music as "Just as I am, without one plea" at the call for people to "give their life to Christ" just at the moment when they are tearful and hopeful and all manner of other feelings? Watch any evangelistic film produced by the BGEA and notice the emotional content, designed to produce a result.

We don't need that. What we need as preachers is the Holy Ghost power and anointing, which influences a person not just for one evening in a tent, but the remainder of their life.

Now let's think about the IFB PP's.

to be cont...


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I am playing catchup, so will try to answer both Wayfarer Pilgrim and Bro US at the same time. If I leave anything out, please get back to me and ask.

I can see that the expression 'Yee Ha' is a stumbling block for some, so I apologise for using it and I am going to change it to PP, which stands for 'Psychological Preacher'.

A PP has a definite aim in his preaching: to influence the emotions of his hearers and thereby get a good result. (Now good preaching ALWAYS ought to be aimed at the affections, NOT the emotions.)

A PP can be a politician, a fundraiser, an Islamist et al. It is a technique used the world over to influence the emotions, so that you get the result you want. A politician uses PP to get elected. During a meeting, the crowd get whipped up until, without them knowing why, they are standing up and clapping for all they're worth. They might be crying or laughing (emotions) but one thing is for sure, they are right behind the politician, and they believe he is the best ever. But they don't know why, they could not explain it. After all, his whole message consisted of him talking about the opposition and how bad the others are.

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Well look at that. The Islam equivalent of the Jesuits. Of course, it had to happen. God will save just as and when He chooses.

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It is rather puzzling, this. Tim refers to me as Brother John, then John Lee, now it is Johnny lad (who is apparently disingenuous and obnoxious). Almighty God says that He loves me with an everlasting love, so that will do for me.

Anyway, if anyone cares to disagree with what I said 5/10/19 2.03pm, please feel free to quote me and you can make your point, and I will respond with respect and love.

Benjamin, thank you for your advice concerning KJV-Onlyist cultists and how they behave. You will probably know far more about them than I do.

Frank, I appreciate your support. You also know far more than I do about KJV-Onlyist cultists, but I am catching up bro.

"So says" is a troll who is stirring the pot. Think about what you do, the Lord sees all.

Brother US, I greatly appreciate you, and will respond more to your statement after breakfast. But I will just say that although the Met Tab in London is independent, and fundamentalist, and Baptist, it is nothing like an IFB church and would never call itself such. It is 1689 Baptist (in IFB terminology it is a group of the Frozen Chosen).

Wayfarer, I am running out of space, but I am sorry if I have caused you any confusion, and I will answer your question fully, later on. Thank you.


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Moses wrote:
...especially when your weapon is a plastic sword...
Actually, there is no such thing, except in the minds of Yee Ha cultists. The other swords are quite normal; it is only in about 5% of their construction that there are weaknesses and even severe errors. But attendees at IFB churches where they hear the Yee Ha preachers brainwash them into thinking the King James Bible itself is perfection, even better than the original greek mss, well, they come out of church every Sunday brandishing their heavy Bible muttering, "Well, I've got my steel sword; shame about the poor dabs who only have a bit of plastic for protection."

Luke 8:11 KJV
(11)  Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.

If a mighty fine Christian had been born anew by reading the Good News Bible, he had read the GNB all his life, and turned out well, being obedient and useful to the Lord, receiving rewards at his decease for his service to his Master, having used his talents well, then I rather think his Bible must have been the word of God, and the Holy Spirit certainly used it to bring him to faith, for faith comes by hearing the word of God. And I don't think you ought refer to the word of God as a bit of plastic.


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Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Hey John can you be more specific? This, like cataract surgery or coranary bypass surgery was unknown at the time the Scriptures were written.
Not speaking in favor of the procedure but I could see where it would be used apart from the LBGTQ group
Hello brother. Well, surely this could have been done by anyone right from the time of Adam and Eve, but not without sin. Also, we need to remember that Abraham tried this on, in order to get an heir because God had closed the womb of his wife, and instead of keeping to God's plan for these things, he went his own way and method and produced a race of people for this world which we are regretting even today.

It's like this bro. God says "No" and we say, "Aha! But there is a way around it." It's very similar to the unwarranted celebration of Christmas and Easter. God doesn't say, "Yes" so we say, "Yes" and do just what we want to do.


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Hi James, I'm not sure what point you are making, but the portion of scripture you mentioned involves chastisement and restitution.

Isaiah 1:24-27 KJV
(24)  Therefore saith the Lord, the LORD of hosts, the mighty One of Israel, Ah, I will ease me of mine adversaries, and avenge me of mine enemies:
(25)  And I will turn my hand upon thee, and purely purge away thy dross, and take away all thy tin:
(26)  And I will restore thy judges as at the first, and thy counsellors as at the beginning: afterward thou shalt be called, The city of righteousness, the faithful city.
(27)  Zion shall be redeemed with judgment, and her converts with righteousness.

So "faithful city" to a "harlot" to a "city of righteousness, the faithful city".

I think Rnel is saying this city, Zion, is the Mystery Babylon referred to in Revelation.

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