think over the creation talk idea wont you ?

porkchop wrote:
=swans? - NO only the queen can eat swans.

John UK wrote:
Oh and do you eat bats or swans? Or cats and dogs?

Thx alan h i didnt realise DJC was being sarcastic ! guess he was tho but I thought his post was pretty funny esp the one with the snake eating the kangaroo he he ! another photoshop masterpiece like that one of the shark eating the helicopter ?

Some snakes have leg bones so they had legs but lost them hmmm something about that in genesis isnt there ? so now they have to go about on their belly

BTW DJC it wouldnt matter if A and E ate from the tree of life before the fall because they had immortality anyway, but it would once the had fallen, after all they were allowed to eat any tree except for one

DJC49 wrote:
Yeah! *Prince charles* is right!

DJC old chap youre begining to sound like one of those evolutionist fellows one hears so much of these days !

yet i m sure by your excellent doctrine that this cannot be the case ?

you are a six day creationist ? im sorry to ask as im sure you must be

so the question can be framed this way

does the bible teach that all creatures were vege before the fall ? i believe it does.

but you disagree - based upon the creatures that live now you cant see how they could ever have been vege ? I think im right in following your argument pls correct me if im wrong

after the fall death entered the world and creatures became a mixture of meat eating and vege.

Another Jeff wrote:
I beleive the Bible teaches it is man made problem and God will destroy all the earth.

we do have good evidence that the earts climate is a 'second order system' google images for this. with the initial catastrophe - the flood and the climate steadily stabilising since, with the fluctuations becoming more minor one thousand years ago the climate was much hotter than today we have written accounts and agricultural evidence of this

Candle Lit wrote:
Charles,
This is too funny!
___________

yes its not all tea and biscuits being part of the 'firm' sometimes i think of abdicating, and some countries seem to manage without a prince but im not sure if mine can

let me see if i can answer some of your ceation questions - its good practice

im not sure by what mechanism you think that the insects would denude the earth of O2 more than say any other creatures ? O2 is produced by plants and evidence suggests much higher O2 before the flood reason being that the earth was made to be inhabhited therefore it would have been mostly land and fertile at that not like today where it is mostly sea

plant life does not qualify as life in the Genesis sense be4cause it does not have the breath of life in it, plus the plants were given as food so they arent intended to live forever.

perhaps salmon would swim upstream and spawn and not die ?

a reptile today - like the vege dinosaurs wil keep on growing as long as it lives and have enough food so i conclude that because some dinosaurs were large that they were long lived for many hundreds of years - like men.

John UK wrote:
Hey you doin great! You know far more than I do about creation and its environs. BTW Did you see my post about Spurgeon and McCheyne Bible calendar? What a resource!

John UK wrote:
Very interesting post Charles, of course you've looked into this as part of your creation lectures.

If you are part of the royal family i often find that one is expected to be an expert on pretty much anything so you can imagine it can get potentialy embarrassing at times, like my visit to the hoover factory i mentioned - what would my subjects and ladies at that have thought if they had known that i had never seen or used one of these 'hoovers' which they were so proud of ?

Its very important on these occasions to be confident and appear to know all about the subject in hand and often people will help you unwittingly by assuming that you kbow more than you do, for instance on that occasion i began 'sweeping' the factory floor with said hoover but they thought i was testing the wheels to see if they would come off sideways !

savedbygrace wrote:
Mark M,
The economy will not come out of this. This seemingly temporary reprieve is deceptive.
The Fed. Gov. and its 90% of the GDP bailout leaves a looming disaster.

The american people are no longer ideologically disposed for the protection of israel even tho militarily they can do it but if you arent really interested then it makes no difference how militarily powerful a nation is.

If israels security is threatend by a major power american indifference will be shown to the world, perhaps shortly,

DJC49 wrote:
they started chomping on each other -- robins started eating worms instead of dandelions; owls started swooping down on field mice instead of chomping on a stalk of celery; lions started stalking wildebeest instead of broccoli.

now it may appear inconsistent to you for instance that a cheetah should be at one time a veggie since it can run so fast, but remember it cant run fast for very long, it is not designed to be a runner, it can catch only easy prey and is soon exhausted.

many peculiar features of the animal world can be explained by loss of genetic information (or the fall) long teeth are caused by loss of information to stop growing, mosquitos
seek a chemical in your blood which they could get from flowers
Pandas have huge teeth but eat only bamboo shoots, bears are herbivores if they can access veg they prefer it.

evolutionary paleontologists often say animals are meat eaters based upon the teeth - this is pure supposition

Candle Lit wrote:
Well, Prince Charles, you'll be living the lifestyle of royalty in that environment. Not much can compete with the beauty of the Mediterranean. Sounds like the perfect family vacation.

Neil wrote:
"Charles," much State autonomy over the years has been subverted by Federal funds offered with strings attached, such as have attended the recent stimulus package. It takes much political nerve to turn down "free" money like that, since most voters seem to side with the candidate who promises them more of other people's money for assorted local public projects.
Pursuant to the previous post, I have seen several cases where church constitutions were willfully ignored by both pastors & congregations when there was a perceived benefit in doing so. If not even Christians will heed their covenants, why should we expect unbelievers to do better?

that reminds me of the saying all democracies devolve into totalitarianism but i cant remember who said it

anyway it seems then that states could have more autonomy but choose not to or at least chosse not to be biblical

Candle Lit wrote:
One of my fondest memories is Easter morning on a Greek ship approaching Patmos. Do you have a favourite island?

i like everywhere really but i suppose our favotites are paxos and meganissi in the ionian

DJC49 wrote:
*Christine G* --
I think I see your point ... and it's a good one! (That A&E had to eat of the "tree of life" in order to live forever)

John UK wrote:
I'm an exception Charles, being a pauper, but rich beyond measure because of faith in the Lord Jesus

so your off to aberystwyth tomorow ? i hope you sell some paintings and witness, i must come down and join you for a day it would be fun i dont suppose it would be more than 2.5 hrs or so

Candle Lit wrote:
Charles,
I understand. I prefer shorter distances for travel these days. We travelled with Zola Levitt on a trip which included Greece and some of the isles. I would love to go back. Only 3 hrs.? That's great!

janine wrote:
Any person of God that lives better than their lowest flock member is a fake.

John UK wrote:
folks say that Christ has done nothing for those who are not saved.
By man (Adam) came death.
By Man (Jesus) came resurrection.
Both are true.

interesting about the universal ressurection tho, i hadnt really thought it thru in terms of the compact

the creation is something i think every day about its my worldview so to speak, all my basic doctrine comes from that

i spoke to a man today that was ill, and he told me that he thought he was going to die for a brief period so i broached the gospel and sais i believed what the bible said and we were going to die and face judgenment - and spoke about Jesus sparing us from that and i said i would offer a prayer for his healing - hope i planted a seed ? its very sad if only people would cast aside their 'wisdom' and pursue the truth of God the creator and redeemer