John UK wrote:
Thanks Charles! I should know a welshman would have good ideas like that.

save my eyes wrote:
There should be some sort of rule against posting in ALL CAPS

i dont know why he is allowed to post they are nothing to do with the news item ?

If nobody replies to his posts then he cant do it anymore - maybe that is the plan ? to shut down the forum.

he is definitely a nutter having a joke at everyones expense

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John UK wrote:
because they insist that the only variety of hyper-Calvinism is that which denies the gospel call."

John UK wrote:
Stick around Charles, they'll be coming out of the cyber woodwork any time now, especially as you posted up what you did. It is more common than you think, but certainly not as widespread as the deadly army of arminists.

so,

A hyper-Calvinist is someone who either:
Denies that the gospel call applies to all who hear, OR
Denies that faith is the duty of every sinner, OR
Denies that the gospel makes any "offer" of Christ, salvation, or mercy to the non-elect (or denies that the offer of divine mercy is free and universal), OR
Denies that there is such a thing as "common grace," OR
Denies that God has any sort of love for the non-elect.

ive never met a calvinist that has these views this surely must represent a sliver of believers whereas in my own experience i have met many believers who are arminists and are in gross error

Thus i conclude that the term hyperman, whilst the genre can be defined are a rare bird and the term is in practice employed as a pejorative to label calvinists whereas many believers today are mired in arminist heresy today to their detriment.

John UK wrote:
I think you are being to generous to our hypermen brethren Charles

I have tho in my life been misled by the free willers and i often meet other folk who are being misled by the BG's of the world

John UK wrote:
There is only one who turns my stomach here on forums, and that one is called hyperman, whatever moniker he decides to use.

Also the most hypercalvinist is not as soul sappingly discouraging and disabling as your average arminist

If I dint believe i was one of the elect my spiritual walk would be even harder than it is already (at times)

Most heresys and all false conversions are the result of arminist thinking

Dont even flirt with it, it does not deserve to be treated generously in case it bites !

Likewise the hawking of the Gospel by emphasising the love of God, it may make an impresion at the time with vunerable individuals but most of the lost see through it straight away and the proof is that the vast majority of the thousands that hear this kind of presentation of the gospel are unmoved after a brief false conversion.

This is the doctrine of devils, the unsaved person knows that if there is a God then his wrath surely abides upon them, death illness insecurity and unhapiness are their lot they know this - they want and need salvation but must be shown what sin is and why the creation groans under sin and awaits the day of Jesus return.

DJC49 wrote:
. But I can not recount ONE time where the love of God was associated with (or even mentioned in) ANY of the evangelistic efforts by anyone as concerns the Cross or salvation. Can you?
(Perhaps they were all "hypermen" in Acts, huh!)

God does not love everyone
God is angry freshly every day with the wicked
Jesus did not come for everyone
People are not good

Mike wrote:
In farm country hereabouts, it's a nickname for a manure spreader.

John UK wrote:
It is the greatest encouragement to evangelism that I know.

DJC49 wrote:
This "hymn" is a Charles Wesley creation:

John UK wrote:
Yes indeedy, and did you know this: that when a Church of England minister was ordained, he had to make certain vows, one of which was a promise to get out into the world, and find Jesus lost sheep, and bring them home.

John UK wrote:
Having recently read a History of Calvinistic Methodism Charles, I can assure you that this denomination really was calvinistic.

pew view wrote:
Does the Lord listen to Liberals?