Mike wrote:
"Prerequisite" is not the premise nor is "aimed at the senses" per John Glass. Either there are examples of worship that exclude the senses, or there are not. What do you (not specifically you, sc) actually do when you worship with other believers, while excluding the senses? One can indeed pray when one is blind deaf and mute, but that doesn't require corporate worship.
Pink said:
"True worship is the adoration of a redeemed people, occupied with God Himself."
Vague. What does this look like? Surely if "true worship" exists as per Pink, it is not unreasonable to expect that he should know what it looks like, that is, what is it to truly worship that "excludes everything that is of the natural man," which includes all his senses.

Mike wrote:
Too bad Pink doesn't give examples here of worship that excludes the senses. I'd like to see or hear them, but that would require senses.

Drums, electric guitars and the like, the use of syncopated music, Rock rhythms etc. to pander to the musical tastes of the performers or the congregation should be outlawed. This is sensuous only and should play no part in the true worship of God.

SteveR wrote:
If you are in devilish league with Anabaptist Reprobates, you have my pity but not my prayers. I dont pray for the damned
John Knox on the Anabaptists
"the Anabaptists "shall not escape judgment and condemnation." This is so, declared Knox, "because they do despise Christ Jesus and His[!] holy ordinances."
"the Papists are busy to espy our offences, faults and infirmities..., they are not the enemies most to be feared. For...of the other [Anabaptist] sort of whom before we have somewhat spoken, the craft and malice of the devil fighting against Christ is more covert
Anabaptists that "with the Pelagians and Papists, you have become teachers of free will and defenders of your own justice.... Your poison is more pestilent than that of the Papistry was in the beginning."
"Anabaptists, Arians, or other such -- [are] enemies of the Christian religion."

SteveR wrote:
ng for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.
btw: All this tribe talk is making troll spotter jealous, her in heat pheromones even attracted observer last night(with that hardened heart of hers, I should say pharaohmoans)

John UK wrote:
Now why is it that I feel uneasy in my spirit about that post? Anyone else feel the same thing?

John Yurich USA wrote:
It is only in your warped mind that no Christian can be an actor or actress and remain saved and that no Christian can remain in the Catholic Church and remain saved. The Bible states there is only one requirement for salvation and entering Heaven and that is to trust in Jesus alone for salvation. Nowhere in the Bible is church attendance/membership in any church mentioned as being required for salvation and entering Heaven. Jesus will not look at the church that one attended in deciding who enters Heaven. Jesus will only look at who had trusted in Him alone for salvation in deciding who enters Heaven. And if a Christian is an actor or actress they can just act in roles that are wholesome and family oriented and that don't have any fornication or any other sinful activity.

Dopey wrote:

What if every saved person could identify most with a Bible person as if the person was founder of a tribe. And the "saved person" most indenfied with the Biblical person and thereby considered themselves as part of that Bible Person's tribe.

Dopey wrote:
However, I don't wish to be seen as piling on you by illustrating some things that will make certain people even angrier towards you than they are now.

Dopey wrote:
Eventually Lurker I will get around to me concerning "faults", but I perceive that God currently wants this thread dealing with you.

John UK wrote:
Lurker, I'm surprised you didn't put the scholars in inverted commas.
I remember those days, and it all seemed so plausible, the endtime prophecies all coming together. That is, until the member states started increasing to well over ten, and still increasing.
At meeting last night, I mentioned that one of the reasons the disciples of Jesus all gave up after the crucifixion was because prophetically they were expecting the Messiah to be a Deliverer, one who would destroy the Roman occupation and give the land back to Israel so they could self rule again. They still had no clue about the reason for his death, nor did they expect his resurrection.
I continued that in our day, it amazes me that some Christian churches are still expecting Jesus to be some sort of political authority and earthly king, when he comes again at the second advent. They say he will rule the world from Jerusalem.
Methinks his kingdom is different.

PursuitofTruth wrote:
Dear Dorcas,
Your probably right, but this guy has done the same thing to me before, and it gets on my nerves. I just don't like watching the same thing happen to a fellow brother in Christ!

Bruce Wayne wrote:
Doesn't anyone read the Bible anymore? Deuteronomy 18 has clear rules on how to gauge if a person is speaking for God. Does what he speak come true? If not, you can disregard him.
I think Hal Lindsey is one of these speakers; had a big hit in a previous century with his book, The Late Great Planet Earth, which should be shelved in the Fiction section of your local library.

Dopey wrote:

I have seen various Hal Lindsey videos over the years but I have never seen one as good as the one I linked to in my last post.
In my opinion, that video is outstanding, to put it mildly, in terms of very important Scripture references for our generation, very important historical information for our generation, very important political information for our generation, and very important American media information for our generation.
As well the various things I just listed are tied directly and indirectly to the article provided by SermonAudio to start the discussion and comments.
I view that Hal Lindsey video so significant that I downloaded it so that I could use it as tool for a Christian witness among unsaved people whom I deal with but who may not have internet access. As well I can also use it as a tool for a Christian witness among people who have internet access.
Please feel free to comment again as this is not my thread but rather SermonAudio's thread.