I don’t think anyone here is arguing that.

“The date is not in Scripture”

Everyone here acknowledges that

“and we,like the faux pa, have no license to deviate from that which is in the Word.”

Where’s the deviation?

“It's called "adding to"...like the RCs do with their traditions”

Three things:

1. No one is adding anything to the scripture.

2. Category error. Big time category error.

Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraph 97. says, "Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture make up a single sacred deposit of the Word of God . . ."

3. No one on here is arguing in anyway like the RC traditions. Funny thing is, that the RC traditions are binding while no person on here is trying to say, “You must celebrate Christmas.”

Again, Christians aren’t worshipping glurg the god of essential oils, if you have a problem with decorating God’s tree with festive decorations, then don’t buy one.

I think that topical sermons are necessary, for instance, you probably need to have a topical sermon series if you want to teach the Trinity.

Therefore, when the atheist says, “Supernatural Belief -- The Enemy of Humanity.” Is this true? By what standard is this true? How do we know it’s true? Who is the vicar of Nature to determine who and what is an enemy?

Connor7, “do you have an overseeing authority above elders and pastors- which denominations do?”

Yes and no. I have the authority by Jesus to confront the pastor if he teaches modalism, I have the authority to demand a church meeting where the members talk to the pastor about his modalism, I have the authority to call the churches that support our church and tell them the heresy that the pastor is teaching, and the members have the authority to “kick him out” (by the way, we would do this if there’s no repentance) and since we have another elder, we would still have a pastor.

“Denominations can have church conferences or whatever to rid a member church of an errant pastor.” Yep. We can do that. And I hope to see conferences in the future.

“This is not the case with Independent fundamentalist Baptist Churches.”

Back to Jim:

“The problem is Connor7 that IFBs are not a denomination” See point #2

“even denominations have a hard time getting rid of an errant pastor if he's extremely popular with the cult members ie church members of his congregation.”

Not sure how this is relevant or what your point is. But see point #3

“apparently with IFBs I guess they will have to have a standing committee, naturally an informal one who can prepare people who need to break off.”

And Luke is incredibly focused on the Incarnation, read it for yourself, the angels celebrated Christ’s birth, if Christ was not born, the prophecies could not come to pass, there would not be a second Adam, and there would not be a New Testament or the atonement...so the birth sounds pretty important.

1. You did not answer my question, instead you tried to dodge the question.

2. The IFBC (for the most part) is a denomination, just like how the “non-denomination” church is a denomination. IFBC usually only supports IFB churches.

3. I’m a member of a IFB church and we have 2 pastors, and both of them are fully accountable to the church, and are open to correction if correction is necessary. If our pastor were to start teaching modalism, or Unitarianism, we would confront him, and if no change, we would have him removed.

4. The article by Dr. Wallace is not relevant since we have a plurality of elders. I think we have maybe at most 50 people at our main service, so there’s no need for 7 elders.

5. Your keen ability to connect politics to ecclesiastical matters is quite amazing.

Appeal to authority. I may not be a mathematician, but I do know that 1+1=2 and that 9 to the 2nd power is 81. And likewise I may not be a scientist, I still know that there is only 2 genders, all I’ve ever seen is two genders, and these two genders can, in most cases, produce offspring.