GK wrote:
and the Bible also prophesies that the world be against Israel,and the armies of the world will be sent against Jerusalem....
persons like yourself will most likely be supportive of this.....

The Bible talks about a remnant, not a race of people. God will save his remnant no matter where they live, and looks to me like Jerusalem is toast as far as God is concerned, especially considering God calls it "Sodom and Egypt" in the last days (Rev. 11).

As to the name "Israel" for this landgrab by the Synagogue of Satan, that choice was deliberately madeto confuse people like yourself, so you would read in the Bible about "all Israel" being saved and in your mind translate that to this evil Badlands for Zionists.

DJC49 wrote:
I see that you quickly abandoned your ISRAELI TANK spin concerning the Rachel Corrie incident. How come?
Perhaps because it was as fabricated as the rest of your spin about Rachel Corrie's accidental death being intentional?
BTW, how's martial law working out in your neck of the woods? Has that M1 Abrams tank gotten out of your driveway yet?

And as to the "witnesses say" -- those are paid government witnesses, soldiers, who of course will say what they are told to say, plus they are guilty of being a party to the whole thing.

Ask Rachel's friends what happened. They were standing right there and saw everything, and according to them the soldier saw Rachel and just kept on coming.

GK wrote:
no.....once again you are trying to read something into a point which isn't there
read it again....slowly this time!!

So I just asked. If that's not how, then how. You tell ME.

DJC49 wrote:
False.
Rachel Corrie's death was a tragic accident.
On March 16, 2003, Rachel, attempted to deter bulldozers clearing brush and earth in Rafah.

The whitewash coverup is typical of these evil people we have running the goverments, and they have covered up so many murders we've lost count. The Pat Tillman murder is another one that comes to mind. Their lies are so outrageously lame that anybody who believes them is willfully ignorant.

Rachel was trying to save the house of a Palestinian, stood in front of the bulldozer, and when the dozer got right in front of her she slipped and it went right over her.

The cruelty of the Jews is typical, not atypical, in Rachel's case. They love to hit wedding parties and children. They are eugencists looking to eliminate the goyim. Don't think they won't be coming for you as well.

GK wrote:
you appear to have little grasp of what is set out in Romans 11 .God has set aside Israel. But,not totally.Earlier in the chapter, he says that there is a remnant according to the election of grace in chapter 5.Later in chapter 11, he says, all Israel is going to be saved. But, he also says in Acts 4, , "that neither is there salvation any other. For there is none other name under heaven given among men by whereby we must be saved." He said that to Jews in the city of Jerusalem who were the Jewish leaders.
So, what he is saying is, Israel was set aside temporarily and partially. And in their setting aside, the riches were turned to the Gentiles. After the Gentiles fullness has come in, after the church is complete, God will go back and redeem Israel,as they turn to the one whom they have pierced
and it's a common cry of those who vilify Israel that they are not anti semitic,rather they are "anti zionist"
heard it all before.....your views have much in common with those expressed in a well known racist/anti jewish forum.

GK wrote:
left wing jews with liberal outlook have always berated the Tel Aviv govt
didn't hear much from them in the months of continuous rocket attacks

GK wrote:
the "so-called state of Israel" it was prophesied thousands of years ago to be born in a single day in scripture.....

all the attention is focussed on the rabid dog that is Gaza?

I'm not up to speed on Zionist rapturist verses, so got any verses? I'd want to also see what God had to say about it.

God prophesies evil as well as good.

It is cruel to refer to the poor people in Gaza as rabid dogs, people who have had their lands stolen and are now confined in a terrible place w/o the necessities of life.

It is racist to consider one human so special he can steal somebody's home, machine gun and bomb children and families. You don't realize how brutal and merciless the Jews are, racist, contemptuous of goyim, their wrong-headed beliefs in their collective godhood. Check out the story of Rachel Corrie online, the American red-headed girl who went to Israel to try to help the people keep their homes, stood in front of an Israeli tank, and it ran smack over her.

I'm sick of racists,whether it's La Raza, Zionists, Nazis, Ku Klux Klan, sick of seeing pictures of dead kids all shot up.

GK wrote:
and banned...where did I state that the root was anything but Jesus?You also neglect to mention that the natural branches will again be grafted back in to the root..you are plainly an anti semite..

The Bible doesn't say the natural branches broken off are all going to be grafted back in because they are not. It is appointed unto man once to die and then the judgment. In Bible days many died "broken off" -- those who were bitten by snakes and refused to look up at the brazen serpent died faithless, same with many who died in the wilderness, and beyond.

Only faith in Jesus will save the Jews. Those who die faithless are lost forever. One chance is all we get here.

Any chance you could give us just a little bit more room to write our posts?
There's a lot to talk about as things move so fast in these last days.

Thinking aloud wrote:
Does God defend His own?
Education does not make a Christian - God does...In previous centuries schools..were few and far between, yet God's witness flourished and grew.

They learned to cook and farm rather than indoctrination into statism, eugenics and those horrors from Satan's main mind control tool, the govt schools, that and the TV.

Of COURSE this will corrupt and ruin the children. The Bible says train up your child in the way he SHOULD go, not the way he should NOT go.

People have GOT to wake up, and do something drastic. We are doomed if we don't stop feeding our children and our future to devils.

The worst homeschooling is better than what the govt does. We must get our kids out of these infernal schools, immediately. And turn off the TV. Use the Internet, we and our children both, to search out the truth. It is there to be found, and may not be much longer.

Why do people not see the great danger? We have lost our country to foreign bankers for pennies on the $ and they're mobilizing police and military to defend what they stole.

GK wrote:
I think we should not lose sight of the fact that the gentile Christians are wild branches grafted in to the root of the tree.....
this site addresses this issue much better and in greater length than I ever could hope to,and why we should support Israel today
http://www.christiansstandingwithisrael.com/grafted-in.html
also,how would you tackle the point I made about your 2000BC Mongolian analogy?

But the tree itself and the root is Jesus, not the Jews.

This is the teaching of the Zionists, that the Jews are a collective "God" on earth.

(short excerpt)
The Scofield Bible was funded and nurtured by World Zionist leaders who saw the Christian churches in America as an obstacle to the establishment of a Jewish homeland in Palestine. These Zionists initiated a program to infiltrate and change Christian doctrines. Two tools used to accomplish this goal were Cyrus I. Scofield and a venerable, world respected European book publisher: The Oxford University Press.

“Scofield's role was to re-write the King James Bible by inserting Zionist-friendly notes.” In 1909, the Oxford University Press published and implemented a large advertising budget to promote the Scofield Reference Bible.

Lurker wrote:
You said it, Roger. Some people haven't a clue who the enemies of God and His people are. What a waste of time reading the same conspiracy nonsense over and over and over .... and nearly every thread seems to get infected.

John UK wrote:
But: consider Deu 30, when God tells his people that if, when they are scattered, they come to their senses, he will do something marvellous.
"That then the Lord thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the Lord thy God hath scattered thee. Deu 30:3-5.

Since then they crucified their Messiah.

And the Jews are't repenting of ANYTHING. They went in by cutting a deal and w/ the money of the Rothschilds and Illuminati and the finagling of Truman, a 33 degree Freemason, and they have been ruled by thugs and criminals from the beginning.

And they are Devil Worshippers and wanting to build a temple to Satan and his incarnation.

I do NOT recommend signing up for their agenda in any way whatever. The Bible says (Rev. 11) in the last days that Jerusalem is equated with Sodom and Egypt, not the land of milk and honey.

John UK wrote:
Almighty God chose a people for himself, he GAVE them the promised land, even though it was already occupied, and God instructed them to take the land by force if necessary. If the occupants had not resisted the Holy Ghost there would have been no fighting over the land.

John UK wrote:
The word of the Lord
" unto the land which I do give to them, even to the children of Israel. Every place that the sole of your foot shall tread upon, that have I given unto you, as I said unto Moses. From the wilderness and this Lebanon even unto the great river, the river Euphrates, all the land of the Hittites, and unto the great sea toward the going down of the sun, shall be your coast...this people shalt thou divide for an inheritance the land, which I sware unto their fathers to give them." Joshua 1:1-6

The key words here are

IRREVOCABLY

and

WITHOUT CONDITION

And the next obvious question is, if that were the case, why were the Jews cast out of their irrevocable and without condition land of milk and honey?

The answer is because God did NOT irrevocably and without condition give this to the Jews, ever, never, at any time.

And today the Jews are as hard-hearted and faithless as before, even more.

John UK wrote:
oshua, who entered the promsed land, allocating the length and breadth of the land to the twelve tribes of Israel. All under God's instruction.
Surely you believe this.

See Deuteronomy 28:15-68

The Jews rejected God and God's prophets to rule over them, decided they wanted a king instead. They treated God like dirt, did not live up to their agreement, went whoring after pagan gods, did abominations like sacrificing their children to Molech and other such things, and God said, fine, have it your way. And when they went into captivity in Babylon and later left, they brought all the occultic paganism straight with them, which is the Babylonian Jewish Cabala they follow today, and so do all the secret Luciferian societies.

John UK wrote:
I am thinking about the fierce judgment of God upon his own people Israel, when, because of unbelief in the Christ, he ejected them from the promised land, and made them the offscouring of the world, despised, rejected, and landless.

John UK wrote:
in the course of time, when the Gentiles had had their day, he would personally restore them to the land once again.

John UK wrote:
And so in 1947, when the Jews regained their national identity.

John UK wrote:
I suppose the issue is, what land do the Jews have claim to, under God?

John UK wrote:
Think carefully now, lest you anger the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. He is still God, you know.Your words are blasphemous, in the sense that you portray the Hebrews as acting on their own initiative (or under the devil) rather than following God's orders.

Wow. We could go back to having our own banks, not have to beg Zionist Banksters for money at interest. We could get our country back. Imagine having an independent media instead of one controlled by the Rothschilds. We could start saying Merry Christmas again and maybe even prayer in the schools.

I truly like your idea. Maybe we could bring the Palestinians over here, and all the Jews could live in Israel, and there would be peace on earth (as long as we took away Israel's nukes).

GK wrote:
..post up your home address and let a few nutters fire harmless missiles at your house and see how YOU like it

Israel is a festering boil in the middle of the globe. Ever since the Jews conquered Palestine and formed their religious antichrist state, there has been nothing but misery for everyone. Most Jews live in America and wouldn't live in Israel if you paid them to. Jews don't NEED Israel, and the rest of the world has had enough of it.

Now Zionist Jews hanker to blow up the Dome of the Rock and rebuild their temple that Jesus cursed, bring in their phony messiah and NWO agenda to rule the world.