John UK wrote:
Banned
Do you firmly believe that the Old and New Testaments are God's completed revelation for man, and that any other writings (though maybe helpful) are not authoritative in matters of faith and practise.

John UK wrote:
Secondly, do you believe that Mohammed was a false prophet?

John UK wrote:
Thirdly, are your current beliefs, about which you post so passionately, a result of reading the words of other men, or the result of your own personal Bible study?

John UK wrote:
What does a man have to do to be saved from his sins and the consequences of his sins?

John UK wrote:
"If you are persecuted in one city, flee to another." There is no justification from the NT to retaliate.

John UK wrote:
Did God himself give land to the Israelies or not?

John UK wrote:
Throughout history, men have gone forth conquering other lands and creating empires,The Jews have not done so.

John UK wrote:
Now we have the Islamic attempt at world domination.

Christians and Not Jews are God's Chosen:

http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=134

and Israel is Not the Fulfillment of Bible Prophecy
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=65

Brother Nathanial is a former Jew, now Orthodox Christian, and his website is a mind-blower. The pics are a little hard to take, but the site is definitely worth giving a go-over, check out some more links. The scriptural arguments are all laid out nice and clear.

lyn wrote:
For those who care to know 'banned's' true agenda, check out his sources, Texe's site-
www.conspiracyworld.com/index0105.htm.
www.therefinersfire.org/challenging_texe_marrs.htm
One of Texe's phrases includes 'Zionist warmonger'...sound familiar?
Brothers and sisters, Banned has an agenda, he is promoting anti semitism through his rantings. I urge all of you to beware, blah,blah..

http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=353

Check out Brother Nathaniel's website and read it from a Jew who KNOWS, a REAL JEW, not some Judaizing Messianic Jew or phony Christian impersonating a Messianic Jew (there are tons of these people), all puffed up with pride, claiming to be God's Chosen here to bless the earth with their presence to all who are willing to bless THEM. He's Russian Orthodox Christian and wears a crucifix, so that's weird, but his website is a real site with lots of insightful and accurate info.

John UK wrote:
Militants in the Gaza Strip, who have launched dozens of rocket attacks against Israel since a truce expired just over a week ago......
I would suggest these militants stop antagonising Israel. Maybe then there would be no repercussions.

John UK wrote:
And yes, you are sure right about our fellow poster being a Texe Marrs disciple.

There is a huge difference between an anti-Zionist and an antisemite.

Texe Marrs is a true academic, a humble man of great talent and hungry for truth, whose prolific and detailed work of 30 years on the NWO and secret societies speaks for itself. He's not 501c3 and is free to find and publish the truth.

People need to realize there are hundreds of mind control debunking sites on the Internet, heavily funded by the govt. ie NASA has many such debunking sites. There are so many debuking sites, subsidized in the infowars to keep us blind and brainwashed, that it is getting hard to find anything with a Google anymore.

All this website does is blare the words "antisemite" and wag their finger and pat themselves on the back for calling Jesus Yeshua, imagine themselves spiritually very wonderful. Ugh.

another perspective wrote:
Recently, I read internet chatter showed..anti-Jewish sentiment.

Maybe if we're going to have nuclear war it would be nice if somebody would at least build us a few bomb shelters?

When the (Jewish mafia) banksters are finished imploding the economy there won't be any shops open, and there will be marshal law in the streets, and people aren't happy about that either.

If Jews hate Jesus, they are the one with the problem, not me. And who do you think is filling the movies with Jesus' name used as a curseword? Have you heard how Jewish comics speak of Jesus, Joan Rivers, Sarah Silverman and others who blaspheme the Lord, stuff I could not repeat?

John UK wrote:
CI Scofield..produced his own Bible w/ study notes.. false doctrines of dispensationalism. Jesus said..sent to lost sheep of the house of Israel..no part with Gentiles...Jews have a special place in God's heart, but I will not study under a rabbi.

The Jews are natural branches, easier to be grafted into the olive tree. They have the scriptures, Bible should be history to them. Jewish holidays remind themselves and the world that Bible events are history, not myth.

If Jews weren't possessed with hatred and contempt for Jesus, it would be easier for them to be grafted into the olive tree, having been broken off.

But Jews are NOT the personificaiton of God on earth, entitled to Abrahamic blessings or free land thanks to the U.S. and Rothschilds, free billion$, bombs to terrorize their neighbors, and to let them run the U.S. govt top to bottom with dual citizen Jews and Mossad.

John UK wrote:
Banned
I had already considered the possibility that Israel=Church in the NT.. might apply to the passage I quoted. However, if you substitute church for Israel...I can see nothing but the nation Israel here.

These are hard verses, easy to use to bamboozle people into Zionism; and if we didn't have the rest of the Bible to harmonize them with, we could end up thinking the Jews were in fact Godlike superbeings, the actual root bearing the branches as some say.

But the hard verses, harmonized w/ the rest of scripture, even in the passage you cite in Romans 11, answer all the questions that make it seem like maybe God is interested in people's genes more than he is their heart.

Most Judaizing idolatry comes straight from that criminal and scoundrel CI Scofield, a Rothschild agent.

Anybody who truly believes Jews are the Chosen People should be studying under a rabbi and renounce Christianity.

John UK wrote:
Banned
Thank you for your reply. I had already considered the possibility that because sometimes Israel=Church in the New Testament, it might apply to the passage I quoted. etcetera

John UK wrote:
Banned

But to replace it with conspiracy theorists - Me, I'm happier sitting in the turnip patch reading my Bible, or commentators commenting on the Bible.

I like the part about the Bible and the turnip patch, and wish I had better luck growing turnips myself, tried to and nothing came up.

Enfilade wrote:
God has taken care of HIS people Israel, restored them to the land..Ishmael's children .. live in an uncivilised warlike manner..

Enfilade wrote:
Bringing them back to the Mid East he has helped them to make a fertile oasis out of the desert, which the muslims have never been able to do.

Enfilade wrote:
The Christians of the west could have continued in HIS blessed providance, but chose to renege on the covenant.

John UK wrote:
"..blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved: For this is my covenant unto them,.. when I shall take away their sins. As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance."
Romans 11:25-29.

The Bible speaks of Jews who say they are Jews but are not, and the ones running Israel today fit that description. Nowadays everybody thinks they have special genes going back to Abraham and Sarah. What we have are a bunch of Luciferians who claim special genes and think they are literally God on Earth.

The Bible says Abraham is our father if we believe.

Read the whole chapter, harmonize w/ Gal.4 and other scripture. Jews are natural branches, more easily grafted in, but both wild and natural are warned can be broken off for unbelief.

Michael Hranek wrote:
Banned
Oh! If I read my Bible will it tell me the CIA and Mossad were behind the 911 attacks too, and wonderful peace loving Allah worshippers had nothing to do with it? or do I have to get some "special" revelation for that part?

The things you say are not logical, do not line up with scripture, and are just things you have accepted without question.

Concrete does not burn, and steel doesn't melt from a puny, oxygen-starved diesel fuel fire burning itself out in the top floors of a 110 foot skyscraper.

And people who are Skull and Bones and flash devil hand signs and have gay porn stars visit them each night are not Christian.

reproof wrote:
ACTING like a Christian is hypocritical. The world hates hypocrites. And as a Christian, I would rather a person be a rank pagan than a hypocrite.
BEING a Christian flows from within and manifests itself outwardly in language, consideration and respect for others, - in essence, it is summed up as love - unselfish and sacrificial - GIVING not TAKING.
When one ACTS like a Christian it is for selfish reasons - to gain the approval and/or trust of others, for personal gain and mal-intent - or, to make one feel good about him or herself.
When you squeeze an orange, you get orange juice - not lemon juice, or apple juice.
When you squeeze a Christian (pressure of circumstances), you still get a fragrance of the Lord Jesus Christ, not some distorted, perverted reaction.
"But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceaable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good works, without partiality, and without hypocrisy." James 3:17

Michael Hranek wrote:
Banned
Hmmmm? Banned here does touch on an issue, that of Israel and the LORD's promises regarding them and how it shows if an individual actually believes God will keep His word.. Because if God clearly gives promises to Abraham.. God keeps His promises to Abraham, to Israel..

As to the "blessing to those who bless," that was specifically to Abraham, not to a bunch of rogue NWO occultics with nukes. We can see how pleased God is with us for supporting Israel -- NOT. We are about to slip into the dark ages and we've lost all the good things we used to have, our country is destroyed and the world is on the verge of nuclear war.

John UK wrote:
Banned
Do you reckon that the Jews in Israel are living within the territory ordained by God for them?

John UK wrote:
If yes, do you reckon that none other ought to be in possession of any of it?

John UK wrote:
If yes, how do you justify the attacks made on Israel?

Banned wrote:
Maybe the American soldiers, instead of painting skull and crossbones on their tanks (which many of them now do), they should instead paint a picture of Jesus on the tanks (to go along with the hot air balloon theme). Maybe we should have Jesus' picture embedded in the helmets, and on the wings of the fighter planes and missiles while we're at it, kind of how the Jewish children wrote goodbye notes and put them on the missiles that were fired into Lebanon two years ago when Beirut was flattened.
And we're doing all this killing for Israel, but try flying one of those balloons in Jerusalem and see how far you get.

Anti-antichrist wrote:
Do you think this theory is more absurd than "the buildings are still there theory," or just equally absurd?

I wonder if the people who post here ever have checked out Bohemian Grove, what it is, who goes there, and what they do there. Do they even care? Eight years after Bush's inauguration and there are still many here who never bothered to take 10 seconds to Google up the pics of him and Laura and his twins flashing the devil hand sign all through the inaugural parade.

Do they know what Skull and Bones is, or care? Shouldn't Christians care about such things, not sweep them under the rug? Are we not commanded to expose the works of the devil? Instead, so many on this forum cover up for the evil-doers.

They are not ashamed of warmongering against peaceful Muslim families living in terror of our bombs and planes. Just imagine how the people in Iran must feel, knowing that the U.S. and Israel are plotting to nuke them.

Anti-antichrist wrote:
"The legal trade, in short, is nothing but a high-class racket...
"Furthermore, the lawyers – or at least 99 44/100 per cent of them – are not even aware that they are indulging in a racket, and would be shocked at the very mention of the idea. Once bitten by the legal bug, they lose all sense of perspective about what they are doing and how they are doing it. Like the medicine men of tribal times and the priests of the Middle Ages they actually believe in their own nonsense. This fact, of course, makes their racket all the more insidious. Consecrated fanatics are always more dangerous than conscious villains. And lawyers are fanatics indeed about the sacredness of the word-magic they call The Law."
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