B. McCausland wrote:
Friend, your posts pointing to the different renderings are beneficial and well appreciated.
However, when stating
"in taking care of the text of Scripture, then men do partake of his practice and character", the idea goes back to the 5000 plus manuscripts behind the Textus Receptus. This colossal piece of evidence should quickly dismiss the attempted creation of a constantly changing 'critical text' originated with Westcort and Hort.
Adhering to the TR one 'identifies with' (or becomes part) of God's historical acts of providence, rather than of man-originated corruptions.
Significantly, this brings to light the only two sets of minds existing, - yet this not implying exclusive boastings or sinless-perfection presumptions:
1. The corrupted mind of reprobates: "as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith" 2Ti 3:8 versus
2. The spiritual mind which is the mind of Christ by His Spirit in us, as mentioned in 1Co 2:15-16:
"he that is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
For who has known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him?
But we have the mind of Christ"
In Christ,

that said: He can be heard here on SA

as an expert saying that this invasion
must be stopped by sinking every boat that is hitting the shores in an invasion.(note:27min mark)

[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=11615110033015]]]ALRASSOOLI: SINK the invasion boats [/URL]

Sink the invasion boats
or
Europe is sunk

His web site

[URL=http://www.al-rassooli.com/]]]Moslems consider all women fair game..etc[/URL]

(1) That the court system would have wisdom on how to prosecute this man, so that no one else endures the pain Amanda and our family have had to endure because of his actions.

(2) That through all of this and although there will be great consequences for his actions, he would become truly sorry for what he has done and would even begin to experience the life-transforming power of the Grace and Mercy of Jesus Christ.

B. McCausland wrote:
So, in taking care of the text of Scripture then men do partake of his practice and character
"the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work,
and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom" 2Ti 4:18

God was in the process of purifying His preserved words from the accumulated corruptions, omissions and additions, both textual and in meaning, that had crept in over the centuries. God's true words were still preserved, but they were in different Bible versions and manuscripts that also contained many corruptions.

Kept in mind that these King James Bible critics themselves do NOT believe that there EVER was and IS NOT NOW such a thing as a complete and inerrant Bible in any language. Try to get them to answer the very question they raise. Ask them: "Can you show us a copy of a complete and inerrant Bible NOW, let alone before the King James Bible?"

They can't. And they know they can't.

see that ye be not troubled:

for all these things must come to pass,

but the end is not yet. 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows. 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. ...

Several modern version teach it is Satan -

1 John 5:19 “And we know that we are of God, and the whole world LIETH IN WICKEDNESS.” Wycliffe, Coverdale, Bishops’ Bible, Geneva Bible, Youngs, Third Millennium Bible

The NIV says: "The whole world is UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE EVIL ONE." NASB, ESV, ISV, Holman, Catholic St. Joseph, NET
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Is your righteousness before God the fine linen of the righteousness of Christ, or your "righteous deeds" as several fake bibles and the modern Catholic versions teach?

Revelation 19:8 - “And to her (the Bride of Christ) was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white; FOR THE FINE LINEN IS THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF SAINTS."

“The fine linen is the righteousness of saints” - Tyndale, Coverdale, Bishops’ Bible, Geneva Bible, Third Millennium Bible

Revelation 19:8 NKJV, NIV, NASB, ESV, NET, Catholic versions - “for the fine linen is THE RIGHTEOUS ACTS of the saints.”
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Can man "speed up" the coming of the day of God's judgment, or is it already marked by God on the calendar to the day and month?

Acts 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; 17:25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;

17:26 And hath made
of
one
blood
all
nations of men
for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; 17:27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: 17:28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

tune of Jesus loves the Little Childen

"brown and brown and brown in tones,
His Red Blood for us atones,
Jesus loves us and
made all our Chromosomes"

And yet, the Obama administration seems most concerned about protecting the rest of the country from conservatives, observes Kupelian. They may not have declared conservatives mentally ill, he notes, but the Department of Homeland Security released a report in 2009 warning of a rising domestic terrorist threat from “rightwing extremism.” Potential rightwing extremists, according to the report, included returning military veterans, people concerned about illegal immigration, constitutionalists, Second Amendment supporters and pro-lifers, among others.

Kupelian pointed out that the communists of the old Soviet Union also were fond of demonizing and de-legitimizing their ideological opponents– but the Soviets went further than anything seen in America so far.

Mike wrote:
Ask someone on the street what

Gen19:4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: 19:5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them. 19:6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, 19:7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.
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Ask someone in the church what the
Trinity is if you want a
BAD definition.
That's why we need what is in
side
the language
of the
Bible
today.

1 John
5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

B. McCausland wrote:
To use an absurdity to question/disdain the importance of respecting God's words belittles God's integrity indirectly.

In the sovereignty of God 1 John 5:7 as it stands in the King James Bible is also in the many Bible versions “in a thousand tongues” all over this earth.
also-
The Westminster Confession of Faith 1646 in Chapter II,* Of God, and the Holy Trinity gives 1 John 5:7 as their first reference.

London Baptist Confession of 1689
Belgic Confession of 1561
Heidelberg Catechism of 1563
also teach this verse as a basis of
correct doctrine

Moses wrote:
KJVBiblephobia

One can be a practising homosexual, but not a male shrine prostitute or a homosexual offender. This removes any Bible criticism or warning against homosexuality. The NIV’s Dr. Virginia Mollencott says: “My lesbianism has always been a part of me”. Episcopal Witness, June 1991.

not a shrine prostituteNIV Deut. 23:17 nor a sodomiteAV1611

He expelled the male shrine prostitutesNIV I Kings 15:12 took away the sodomites.AV1611

He rid the land of the rest of the male shrine prostitutes NIVI Kings 22:46 the remnant of the sodomites, he took outAV1611

The male shrine prostitutes NIVII Kings 23:7 the houses of the sodomitesAV1611

Nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offendersNIV I Cor. 6:9 not effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankindAV1611

The NIV editors aided the AIDS epidemic by silencing God’s warnings against sodomy.
in ( 1 Kings 15:12 ),( 1 Kings 22:46 ),and(2 Kings 23:7 ).

It is not a blind faith nor an unreasoning faith. God said He would preserve His words (Psalm 12:6-7) in a real book - “Seek ye out of the book of the LORD and read” (Isaiah 34:16) and the Lord Jesus promised “Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.” (Matthew 24:35)

I believe God is the Sovereign Governor among the nations (Psalm 22:28; Daniel 4:32 & 35) and that He cannot lie (Numbers 23:19 & Hebrews 6:18)

And since I believe God inspired His Book, then I believe what the Book says about itself - that it is the very words of God and not of men.

I also believe that many throughout history have corrupted the words of God, whether by accident or by evil intent.
2 Corinthians 2:17 - "For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ."

I also believe there is an adversary named Satan who sows doubt as to what God said - “Yea, hath God said…?” (Genesis 3:1) and who came to steal, destroy and to catch away the words of God that are sown in the hearts of men (Matthew 13:19; John 10:10)

Psalm 12:6-7 says, "The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever." Then we read in Psalm 100:5 that ". . . . his truth endureth to all generations," and Jesus said in John 17:17 that God's WORD is truth.
These words state that God's preserved word MUST be available to us today, because God PROMISED to preserve it for us. There MUST be an infallible Book somewhere.

pennnelope wrote:
scholars today have studied the ancient Greek and have far surpassed,

Brother Laurence M. Vance has written a book called Double Jeopardy, in which he documents word for word the changes made in the 1995 NASB as compared to the previous 1977 NASB. The 1995 NASB now has almost 7000 fewer words in it than did the previous 1977 edition.

The NASB often rejects the Hebrew readings, but they never tell you this in their footnotes. You have to consult other versions like the RSV, ESV, and NIV to verify this. Many examples of the NASB not following the Hebrew texts are found here: http://brandplucked.webs.com/nivnasbrejecthebrew.htm

and here: http://brandplucked.webs.com/nivnasbrejecthebrew2.htm

a quicker way to do your beads:
The Romanish Blavatshy texts help to shorten the time on that old rosary.

BTW:
Mat6:6b.." Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly."
becomes
Mat6:6b.. Father which seeth in secret shall reward XXXX XXXXXX.

openly = in the open, publicly - omitted by NU, and modern translations, but the evidence is the same as in verse 4, therefore it is officious stealing
from God's Word.

The NIV adds 8 unauthentic words, and fails to translate 9 of the 31 Greek words.

round and round the new age (rhymes with sewage) bibles spin in their confusion.

but
1 Cor.14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

NIV Footnotes tell us they are UNCERTAIN over 100 times:

The quicksand of the 'no perfect Bible crowd' pushes toward the authority of a Pope to give a sure word.

Mt. 6:9
"When ye pray, say,

Father Hallowed be t?? name
6:10 t?? kingdom come.
6:11 Give us ??? ?? day our daily bread.
6:12 And forgive us our XXXs; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us.
6:13 And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil:
????."
RMV

with X denoting words cut from some Greek texts, and ? denoting words in dispute
between the 2 prayers.
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MT.6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye:
??? Father ????? ??? ?? ??????, Hallowed be XXX name.
6:10 XXX kingdom come, XXX ???? ?? ???? ?? ?????, ?? ?? ?? ?? ??????.
6:11 Give us this day our daily bread. 6:12 And forgive us our debts,
as we forgive our debtors. 6:13 And lead us not into temptation,
??? ??????? ?? ???? ????:
FXX tXXXX XX XX XXXXXXX,
XXX XXX XXXXX, XXX XXX XXX, XXX XXXX.
A???.
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LK11:2 And he said unto them, When ye pray, say,
XXX Father XXXXX XXX XX XXXXXX , Hallowed be ??? name.
??? kingdom come.
XXX XXXX XX XXXX, XX XX XXXXXX, XX XX XXXXX.
11:3 Give us ??? ?? day our daily bread.
etc.

Mike wrote:
Luke 11

pennnelope wrote:
copies are being found

Herman Hoskier also has written a 2 Volume set called: Codex B and Its Allies: A Study and an Indictment. – Hoskier, Herman Charles (1864-1938) : In it he documents many of the 4000 or more differences that exist just between these two “oldest and best” manuscripts.

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/hoskier/codexb1.html

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/hoskier/codexb2.html

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What is commonly referred to as the Lord’s Prayer ends with these words: “For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.” Out of about 1000 remaining manuscripts these words are found in all but 10, or a ratio of 100 to 1. They are included in the Didache 150 AD, and the Diatessaron 170 AD (200 years before Sinaticus and Vaticanus). They are also found in the following MANY ancient Bible versions: