Buying a used car with drug residue in it from the previous owner then having it searched and seized and you arrested is ok with you I guess.

Being under suspicion for spending your own money past a certain amount is ok with you I guess.

John UK wrote:
I estimate that God is only answering about one in ten thousand prayers at present. If you can't see the low state of the church in general, you are walking about with blinkers on. Honesty is a trait of new birth.
Check out the attitude of someone like Pastor Wurmbrand, if you want to see the effect of new birth, and how it takes away hatred for others. Or a Corrie Ten Boom similarly, showing how to live a Spirit led life with God.
Because God is a God of both mercy and justice, it does not mean the church has to be the same. Some things belong ONLY to God.
God will punish the wicked. Do you feel like YOU want to punish the wicked? I met a professing Christian the other day who would happily do some genocide on the UK to get all the foreigners out who are drinking us dry.
There was a time when sodomy was a punishable sin in the UK. Even attempted suicide was a sin punishable by death. Are you saying that God has made a mistake in allowing the laws to be changed. Why can't you believe in the sovereign God and be at peace with yourself?

John UK wrote:
Well Strat, it is very difficult to mention in one post the whole counsel of God. One thing I know, and that is that you regard me as unbalanced, as has come out in your several posts to do with my rebuke of anonymous for having a wrong spirit.
Now if you want to discuss the awful judgments of God on sin, I am quite willing to do so. But what I am not willing to do is hold an attitude of self-righteous judgment of mine own upon sinners, which thing is evil in God's sight.
Now here is a secret. When we disobey Christ, we fall under chastisement of God. If we do not repent of such, we fall further. If not remedied, we will eventually go into apostasy, losing true faith. This is why I am concerned for our friend who has been duped by his PO singing.

The political liberal judges at will because he or she has convinced themselves they have the right to since they are the last word on living and how to live,likewise with the religious liberal who will say judge not.....then judge at will.

John UK wrote:
The answer is that he is not converted. No-one gets converted without conviction of sin, and you get conviction of sin when the heinousness of sin is preached, along with God's wrath on sin, which is to perish forever in the lake of fire.
So to use the unconverted as an argument is not really bona fide, Strat.
But hey, if I have misunderstood the teaching of Jesus in the passage I quoted when anonymous cried out "Bring on the Fire and Brimstone, Lord!" then I am always open to being taught my error, and you might just be the man to do it. If you have a care for the saints, that is. Or you might prefer to leave me in my supposed heresy and instead cry out, "Lord, rain down judgments on John UK for not understanding your words aright."

I responded to the rather worn out argument that anyone who mentions judgment which is contained in the bible is somehow less than those who never mention it.

I have no interest in teaching you anything,i am not responsible for you,you are.

John UK wrote:
If any Christian is in a place where there is no preaching on the judgments of God on sin, what on earth is he doing there, Strat?

Missing the point wrote:
Hurnes, you are sadly missing JohnUK point. Our Lord wept over the lost, Paul wished himself accursed for the salvation of others and Petrer reminds us that God is not willing any perish. Do you think they were afraid of proclaiming the justice of God? Are we not commanded to fear Him who has power to cast both body and soul into hell? God says He has no pleasure in the death of the wicked, you come across as one can't wait for them to get their due punishment. But for the grace of God you would also be on the broad road to destruction . Those perishing in their sin should bring you sorrow and you should be like Abraham praying for their deliverance.

tell that to wrote:
No, I do understand, which you don't, the need for regulations and laws. Your definition of law is anybody can do anything as long as it doesn't negatively impact you. If the don't build the guy down the street house to code no big deal, as long as they do yours. People can do live anyway they want to as long you can go merrily on your way with no negative effect. Are we over regulated? Yes. Is the government too far reaching? Yes. Does that mean all laws and regulations are bad? No.
Heroine was legal back when they made coca-cola and maybe you want more people high on heroine in our society but I will pass and say it should be restricted to the medical use. You think we should do away with the war on drugs, sure and be like Mexico, that would be a big improvement. Lets legalize polygamy, prostitution, mercy killing too. Oh wait, you don't want those, you want people to do exactly as you want in those matters.

pennnned wrote:
they call them Palestinians but then say Palestine doesn't exist. they are born into Israel but they are not called Israelis. where else on earth does this kind of thing happen?

broadcasting wrote:
The American people voted for him under the banner of Hope. This is not about a man or a party but the majority of the 330 million Americans.

Tell that to wrote:
Not against medical use of it just recreational use. Strat, anarchy isn't the answer and yes that is what you are arguing for

Mike wrote:
If we forget that we are the state, and they are the employees, perhaps. And if every state agent disregards his oath, and breaks the law, perhaps. And if every citizen rolls over and plays dead, perhaps.

tell that to wrote:
the people who lost loved ones because the driver was impaired due to smoking marijuana, back 100 years ago they didn't have cars. Tell it to the people who lives were ruined because it became a gateway for stronger more addictive substance that was not common 100 years ago. You of all people should know it is not healthy for you.