John UK wrote: a) Kuiper is writing about New Testament evangelism, so how did the OT come into the conversation?
b) Can you please rewrite this bit in AV language, which is far, far easier to understand than this modern drivel.
a) Yes me ole radish 'e did, BUT he also refers to quote; "and in no period of history have God's elect perished from the earth..." Thats why I made the comment re the OT.
b) Ok. "Thus God's sovereignty extends beyond and is above gospel audio (ye hearing of ye ear) and auditory function reactions (ye reaction of ye sinner to ye hearing of ye ears)" Now if you rattle me cage agin wiv dis AV "thee's and thou's," oil git Jim Lincoln onto yer case agin, so oi will!!
Onyways I's thot ye wiz a wurzel spokist rather than a 17th century posh fella.
John UK wrote: And the gospel is the means by which God bestows saving faith upon them. In fact, it is the only means by which God employs to that end. "Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God" (Rom.10:17)... The church consists of "elect from every nation", and in no period of history have God's elect perished from the earth, nor will that occur in the future.
But John The gospel was not preached in OT times. This conflicts with this statement.
Also Romans 9: 18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. 21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?" Eph 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will"
Thus God's sovereignty extends beyond and is above gospel audio and auditory function reactions.
11/15/09 3:08 PM
