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 10/17/07 1:16 PM |
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Abigail, you are free to disagree, but I don't see the point, since I know of formalists and orthodox churches which do not oppose the Holy Ghost. Yes, one must have the Holy Ghost, but all too often you are associating manifestations with salvation. This cannot be. It isn't named among the Apostles. If so, faith isn't good enough and then the Gospel is hidden and diluted, leading people to think their place before God depends on this instead of faith. That's a very unstable foundation and many have started false gospels on this, leading people by heretical understandings of the Holy Ghost, putting works before faith instead of the other way around, inventing their own standards of holiness and righteousness and judging based on that. That's a man-made law without divine warrant.Regarding this, I encourage you and all to read and discern: http://www.rickross.com/reference/upci/upci28.html You stated "Great confusion has arisen because of the many churches in disagreement in doctrine and stating they are the only ones that are right." But have you not claimed this for yourself? I feel you have. Many people claim conflicting messages and claim they are all following the Holy Ghost. Thus the supremacy of scripture over experience and ideas claimed to be divine. |
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| 10/17/07 3:04 AM |
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Abigail,
It's my conviction that the Apostle would not needed to have written what he did if the Corinthians had a clear understanding of the Holy Spirit's gifts and manifestations and that all was in order. He had to lay things in order by stating the gifts are given as He wills, "do all speak with tongues?", let your women be silent not to teach, etc.,let one speak then interpret and at the most that is three and if there is no interpreter then all shall be silent, "do things decently and in order," etc. Comparing this to mondernday pentecostal/charismatic doctrine, I refer you back to my words to JD below and my other posts where I have challenged the initial evidence doctrine. The doctrine creates confusion in identifying a true congregation from the false(Catholic vs. evangelical, mormon, etc.) and Paul says God is not the author of confusion. That Paul even wrote in this manner is proof he was not a pentecostal by today's understanding, especially saying to do things orderly, which to me is the antithesis of the pentecostal idea of worship or having church. Pentecostals imply or literally say "let the Spirit" control the worship and Paul says do things orderly? Is this not contrary? I think so. Who's right? The Apostle is. All for now. Good night. |
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 10/17/07 1:02 AM |
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I was just thinking: Imagine how much energy and enviromental resources we'd save without all the frenzy of "holy days." So many churches are catering to the environmental movement's strange ideas, yet have their backs turned to the Bible which does not condone the gospel of holy days of obligation(Yes, it is another gospel because the official Roman Catholic doctrine is if you don't observe these days, you've committed sin and must seek forgiveness). As crazy as it sounds, the church could make the environmentalists a lot happier by not adding obligations on which scripture is silent. There's your answer, Britain. Transfer all these extra days to the Lord's Day Sabbath and things will be much simplified and more efficient. The Apostle Paul on the matter of observances: "But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are know of God, how turne ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage? Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years. I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain."(Gal. 4:9-11) "But though we or an angel from heaven preach any other unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed...let him be accursed."(Gal. 1:8&9) |
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| 10/17/07 12:27 AM |
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JD wrote:
There is no church functioning like the church at Corinth JD, it's apparent that modern pentecostals and charismatics resemble much the abuse and erroneous doctrines about the Holy Spirit which were prevelent in the Corinthian church and which required correction from the Apostle Paul. In the pentecostal arena one's standing before God has been transferred from faith in the shed blood of Christ to speaking in tongues, whether this is intended or not(some make it intentional by linking new birth evidenced unequivocally by speaking tongues, and example being this: http://www.rickross.com/reference/upci/upci28.html), but such is the logical conclusion of their Initial Evidence by Tongues doctrine. We then see why ecumenism is then fueled by this doctrine. Yet the Apostles taught "We walk by faith, not by sight." We also know from Romans 10 one's salvation is evidenced by acknowledging the name of Jesus and faith that God raised him from the dead and so the Apostles confessed "We maintain a man is justified by faith apart from works of the law." If one is justified by faith apart from the works of divine laws, how much more so man's ideas and rules or regulations to produce apparent righteousness and holiness. |
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