Remember 'A bible Christian Who Made Believe'?
He had a superhero messenger called JV that used to travel to hell and back through a portal somewhere on route66. JV had had all these special powers and was privy to secret supernatural information.

Jim Lincoln wrote:
[URL=http://www.johnankerberg.org/Articles/_PDFArchives/roman-catholicism/RC4W0700.pdf]]]Hail Mary?[/URL] SteveR? You might find this interesting, [URL=http://www.johnankerberg.org/Articles/_PDFArchives/roman-catholicism/RC4W0300.pdf]]]The Biblical, Catholic, and Occult View of Mary[/URL].

I would have perished in my ignorance had you not come looking for me. But now I will never know all those things you took upon yourself in my stead.

Observer wrote:
..till we meet again..

Ahem wrote:
A household may include infants, and it may not include them. It cannot, then, give evidence on this point. In such a case, the extent of the baptism must be determined by the commission.

Stating the obvious that should have been so obvious. Sheesh paedo's!

objective wrote:
Think about it UPS. All that GOD reveals and records in Scripture is the term "Household" (Lets stick to God's Word alone) - No detail of ages because they are not required. Now question for you Ups, What age of humans can you find in "household" ???

So you see, the bible doe's give the age then!

Now a real simple question:

Why do we baptise infant girls?

MWicks wrote:
The church building that we meet at burnt down just about 15 months ago. One of our elders said he was praying that our church would be on fire for the Lord, but this is not what he had in mind!

SteveR wrote:
Jeremiah 10:3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. Jeremiah 10:4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not

It says the batized are saved

WCF wrote:
Baptism is "to be unto him a sign and seal of the covenant of grace,[3] of his ingrafting into Christ,[4] of regeneration,[5] of remission of sins,[6] and of his giving up unto God, through Jesus Christ, to walk in the newness of life"

That's a saved person!!!

But then again it's forced to concede they are baptizing unregenerates!

WCF wrote:
But not "[14] all that are baptized are undoubtedly regenerated".

Does that help any serious look at the subject? No!

SteveR wrote:
SA has a crowd that believes that a Catholic once saved could never ever stay in the RCC, yet they believe the saved could do all these horrible acts. Is your idea really that the Spirit only controls what Church they attend?

Biliever can stumble in sin multiple times but will not remain in his sin because his new nature will not be comfortable to remain at odds with the Holy Spirt. We have grace and forgiveness for when we stumble.

As act of continual, habitual rebellious state of being, say like remaining in a satanist church, is not sign of regeneration.

a macDonald wrote:
We cannot just say all Roman Catholics are lost.
I can only speak of my own conversion as a miracle of grace.

objective wrote:
"The children of believers are heirs of all the promises of the covenant....This is supported by four things:

Christ regards children as members of the covenant..in Matthew 19:13

Peter does this at Pentecost, Acts2:39 and Paul does it with the Philippian jailer, Acts16:31.

In 1Cor7:14, Paul affirms that the children of believers are holy." (Jason A. Van Bemmel)

If children of believers are heirs of the covenant, Mathew 19:13 Jesus says ALL children (as you point out) are already members of the covenant without baptism.

In Acts 2:39, Peter is calling circumcised and already covenanted people to now get baptised
Oh no no no!! Acording to you, Jewish circumcisn was not valid!

There's no doubt that all kinds of pagan practices were rife even before the start of the Christian church. When the church started, paganism tried to come alongside and creep into the church. Look at Semiramus's babylonia, already present from before the time of the appostles, it lives on now via Romanism.

Some of the worst and most rapid corruptions were happening whithin the first 100 yrs.

Going back is not "proof". Proof is, that we have the true and pure form that was given by our Lord to His church.

Paganism always tried to override wherever it came into contact with Gods truth. It's true that Anabaptists look like a new upstart because they were the minority that wanted to keep to the truth against a widespread paganism that rode alongside some of the corrupted churches & could claimed that it had always been around!

SteveR wrote:
"We believe that the Pope of Rome is anti-Christian, not the Antichrist"

objective wrote:
Ge17:7,l0-11; Ro4:11: Mt28:19-20; Acts 2:38-39;10:47-48h Deutl0:16;30:6; Jer4:4; 9:25-26; Ez44:7,9;?Ro2:28-29 ?Baptism: Acts 2:38-39;22:16; Col2:11; Ga3:27,29;?1Pe3:21; Ti3:5-6 ?3. Ro4:11 ?Baptism: Mt3:13-17; Acts22:16 ?4. Deut10:16;30:6; Jer4:4;9:25-26; Acts15:1; Ro2:26-29; Col2:11-12.
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When a person believed God in the Old Testament, what happened? Ans: He was circumcised.
What was the outward event representing the clean heart in the Old Testament? Ans: Circumcision. ?What was the outward sign that marked entry into the community of believers in the OT? Ans: Circumcision.
Now replace the words "Old Testament" with "New Testament," asking the same questions:
When a person believed God in the NT, what "happened? Ans: He was baptized.
What was the outward event representing the clean heart in the NT? Ans: Baptism
What was the outward sign that marked a person's entry into the community of believers in NT? Ans: Baptism.

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Why did Peter ask circumcised Jews to be bsptised. Why did they need both?

Don't look to Gal 3:28. That's talking about us meeting all the requirement of the law in Christ. There's no distinction, all are now sufficiently met in Christ. Exactly the opposite point of what you're making.