Maybe you and I should find out wherever our good buddy, Neil
from Tuscon went, and go there...and leave this forum to the
conspiracy nuts that seem to be increasingly corrupting it.

He does act like a sort of modern-day Jeremiah with his often
severe but just criticisms of the present-day churches.

Ironically, it was Camping who incessantly "nagged" me to join a
church while listening to his Open Forum program nightly back in
the late 90's following a lengthy period of apostacy in my own life.

Ironic because not long after I finally joined a faithful local
congregation (at Camping's own proddings), he did a complete 180
and started telling me and the rest of his listeners to "get out
of the church".

I don't like being jerked-around--not even by such a renowned
Bible teacher as Camping is (was?).

Gee, maybe if I leave my church, Camping will do yet another 180
in his teachings and insist that I JOIN one again.

When I was growing up I was told that the
Japanese spent more time in school and
worked harder than Americans did.

Well worth the time even if you're not
one carried away by conspiracy theories.

SB, Abigail, Owen Buck, CMT.

Public education seems to have been thoroughly undermined by
special interests hostile to Christianity these days.

...And talk about being politically incorrect, back in 1970's
American pubilc schools we used to play a game at noon recess
called "smear the queer", in which the kid who had the ball was
"the queer", and everone else had to "take him down". Though
the game was frowned-upon by our instructors they didn't meddle
in our affairs unless someone got hurt.

I got the wind knocked-out of me a couple of times but I also
got A LOT of excercise, chasing the other kids...and I dare
say it surely toughened-me-up quit a bit.

Having recently re-visited my old elementary school I was
astonished to notice that the tall slides, swings, and elaborate
monkeybars and merry-go-rounds had been replaced by what looked
like pathetic little hamster cages, with tiny but "safe" slides
and climbing apparatti.

Back in the late 60's, my dad aquired several dozen Playboy magazines
from one of his Air Force buddies which my dad made little effort to
conceal.

As a result both my brother and I eventually discovered them and
subsequently corrupted ourselves to a significant degree back in
the early 70's.

To my suprise, my SISTER recently admitted that she ALSO discovered
them, and was corrupted by them, after I shared my and my brother's
experience with my dad's carelessness regarding this media.

My suprise arose from being told (back then) that porno was a MALE
problem, and that women were largely imune to this stuff.

What a lie! Then again, the 70's were a fertile breeding ground
for lies...or so it seems to me.

I guess my point is please, please, PLEASE, DADS. Be VERY careful
not to let this stuff (porno) fall into the hands of your kids.

YOUR sins can pass on to your kids with multiplying effects!

Then again, big-name preachers like him, Sproul, and others have their
own outlets, which often require you to spend money to gain access.

I tend to share Abigail's suspicions regarding large churches, but I'm
told Spurgeoun had a pretty big church in London, back in the day (mid-
1800s?), leading me to belive that there can be exceptions to the whole
"one of a city, two of a family"-rule of Christian conversion/outreach.

I read NO books this year or last, but
still absorbed a lot of information from
many other sources.

It's easy for people to miss something or see something
that's not there.

They ought to call that course "Blasphemy 101", for that's pretty
much what's being taught, in addition to breaking the 2nd commandment.

Yeah, our country is under judgement.

Do I fear laws? I suppose it's more righteous to fear laws rather than simply
fearing the consequences of breaking laws.

Better still, fear the One who ultimately gives the law(s). I think Romans 13
talks about this among other things.

I'll have to think about this some more.