Jeremiah 10:3-4 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
Christ and the Mass do not go together except in apostate protestantism
Mike wrote:No argument there John.Yet I'm sure I heard some flower folk say that there are some preselected to be saved from eternity past. Therefore they cannot be lost, and no one else can be saved. Such understanding may account for what appears to be indifference to the lot of the world going into eternity without the gospel.
Oh btw the word is predestinate, Mike.
For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Romans 8:29 KJV
Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. Romans 8:30 KJV
Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, Ephesians 1:5 KJV
In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: Ephesians 1:11 KJV
John UK wrote:Mike, our Lord said:I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work. As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world. John 9:4-5 KJVSeeing as he says that we are "the light of the world", should not these 'miffed' Christians find something good to do while they have the opportunity, rather than take their ease while the world goes into eternity without even hearing the gospel?
Mike wrote:And yet many Christians would be miffed at not having the time off from work.
Seeing as he says that we are "the light of the world", should not these 'miffed' Christians find something good to do while they have the opportunity, rather than take their ease while the world goes into eternity without even hearing the gospel?
John UK wrote:Christmas is certainly not scriptural, and is certainly based on the invention of the RCC, when they instituted the Christ Mass. After fiddling around with the dates, the 25th was agreed on. So I voted a resounding and emphatic... NO -
It NEVER fails to amaze me that at the "time of good cheer" supposed churches who claim to celebrate the birth of Christ, in actual fact have LESS time spent in meeting than even on an ordinary Sunday!
Plus, any poor lost sinner who is trying to find a church to attend, and who OUGHT to be hearing the GOSPEL preached, is confronted, if he should be fortunate enough to find a church open on the 25th, with a bunch of sozzle-eyed traditionalists whose only thought is to get home as quick as possible, so that the big roast can be set in order, and the party hats brought out.....let the fun begin, and let's have a good larf. (Poor lost sinners will have to wait till next week, we don't want them bothering us at "THIS time of year".
And folks wonder why some evangelicals go toddling off to the Kingdom Hall to see if they can find some GENUINE BIBLICAL CHRISTIANITY!!!
But not all church is apostatising.
Mike wrote:How did Nimrod get himself born on December 25th without the Roman calendar?
A blessed 2010 to you, Mike.
Scott Maxwell wrote:--- Nimrod was the grandson of Noah who led a mass apostasy against God. He was the source of almost every false god (Baal)and Pagan tradition, including most Christmas customs and traditions. Dec. 25th was his birthday, not Christs.
And while doing so still show no shame in considering other Christians idolators for candles and crosses. I think thats a danger of confessionalism. In this case since Ursinus and Olevianus didnt give them instructions, they cant figure it out despite the testimony of Scripture.