Great Sermon! The Reverend Paisley clearly won this debate. There are many who claim to be Christians who confuse what an English friend of mine calls "churchianity" with Christianity. The Reverend Paisley certainly did a fine job defending the right of the matter.
Great Sermon! This message was true in the time of the Reformation & continues to be true today since the Word of God does not change and is very clear in this issue. The Roman Catholic church has not changed but Protestantism has changed since a great majority no longer believes in the historicist view of the prophetic revelation of Daniel chap. 2,7, 8-9 & 10-12 as our forefathers did. Until the middle nineteen century all Protestant interpreters espoused the historicist view. The Protestant martyrs who gave their lives since the dark ages because of Papacy persecution would turn in their graves if they were to see that the majority of the Protestants no longer protest but are joining the "mother of harlots" described in Revelation 17. They have not become Catholics but have extended their hand in brotherhood with Catholicism in heart and mind by setting aside major Scriptural truths for which many of the saints died for. There are many sincere Catholics whom have not seen the truth yet, and God will yet open their eyes to it. God is now calling all of us out of Babylon, which is any religious system that is in contradiction to God's Word and also any individual whose heart has not yet bow down to the truths clearly revealed in the Scripture & are following doctrines of man instead of God.
Great Sermon! Book by an ex-Catholic Nun M. Francis Clare Cusack - Life inside the Church of Rome published 1890
Todd W Keator (7/31/2013)
from Vestal, New York
Great Sermon! Mr. Bach's arguments were given in 1988 (25 years ago) and are now 'dated' (and they become more 'dated' with each passing year) therefore we have no reason to take them seriously ;)
Frank Pompa (2/19/2011)
Great debate Ammendment to previous comment about my conversion---was not possible through the teachings of Rome!
Great Debate! I was adopted and in catholic family but praise be my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ I was set free and forgiven and that was possible through the teachings of Rome and the pope's antichrist system. Praise God for men such as Dr. Paisly who clearly define the truth of scripture on these matters!
from eastern europe, Albania
Great Sermon! The pope may change, but Jesus remains the same.
Which one am I trusting? Theres no mention of the pope in the bible! I am saved like any other Christian, through the merit of Christ! Oh bless his name. I long for the day when I shall be with him!
Powerful Debate The most powerful part of the debate, in my estimation, was when Dr. Paisley mentioned Dr. Brown's ordination. Brown was ordained upon profession of adherence to the Articles of the Church of Ireland. If a person claims to believe or adhere to the doctrines of his church in order to be ordained, then his ordination is a sham when he backs down from those beliefs - and he should have the decency to realize and admit that. I wish there were more eloquent defenders of the Reformed postion regarding Rome. I wouldn't want to be on the opposing side of any subject in a debate with Dr. Paisley. I was very blessed.
Great Sermon! As an ex catholic and previous despiser of Ian Paisley I have to say he is absolutely right. Once God opened my eyes to the truth about the catholic church I see it as so necessary to expose their dark deeds and point out to dear people that Rome is the wrong way and also the Mystery Babylon spoken of in Revelation 17. I understand now why Dr Paisley was so caricatured in the press as his stance is against the luciferian one world government/one world religion plan.Let us take courage and stand for truth.
Luc Aube (3/19/2007)
from Ottawa Canada
Very, very good debate! Dr. Paisley masterfully explains his position and even appeals to the creeds and confessions of faith of his opponent who is forced to make foolish arguments. Of course, the point of a debate is to win, which Dr. Paisley does in all humility. But more important than winning is that he is able to share truth and preach The Gospel at the same time. Well worth 30 minutes of your time.
fly on the wall The highlight of this particular debate was when Dr Bark quoted the Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church:
"The identification of the pope with the anti-christ has frequently been made especially in the less educated circles of protestamtism."
I almost spat out my apple juice.
Gio Ng (8/11/2005)
Great Sermon! Dear Brothers and Sisters, may i plead to you that while we are thankful for The Lord for saving us, and that we are privileged enough to Know and worship the One True God, and that we know and agree without a shadow of a doubt that RC and whatever it stands for is wrong, I beg us to have sympathy for the lost souls that are still ensnared and trap in the lies and deception of RC churches. Pray for them, that they too may be delivered, condemn the sin of misrepresenting God and His word, but condemn not the people. I praise God for people who dare stand up and speak the truth, but i think God will be so much more honoured and glorified, if we dare pray for these misled ones that they too, may be walk in the true path of righteousness by having a true personal relationship with our Lord, Jesus Christ. God bless.
Needed information! The Papacy is the AntiChrist, the man of sin and the son of perdition. Mr. Paisley has history and the Bible on his side. More Christians need to listen to such messages. Being a former Catholic, I can say without hesitation that catholicism is the blasphemous religion of antichrist, the ultimate salvation-by-works religion. Rome has never changed and will never change. Shame on people who naively think otherwise.
Audi Steinwand (5/14/2005)
from NT Canada
Great Sermon! True christians need not make any apologies to what the Bible says, and if it offends those that do not reguard what it has to say to humanity,it was offensive to the rele gious leaders of Christ's day,for they were the ones who crucifed christ. Truth is ofensive to a nonbeliever just as lies are to a believer,and I'm sure God find the pope ofensive aswell Thankyou Pastor Paisly for your stand in defence of The Holy WORD, and GOD Blessyou.
Mary Cage (2/17/2005)
Great Sermon! Church History is one of my favorite studies. I agree completely with Dr. Paisley. Before I was born again I joined the Catholic Church. In my instruction, Jesus Christ was not even mentioned, and certainly not the necessity of being born again; but the priest helped me choose a patron saint, whose name I now cannot remember. At age 47 I was born again by the grace of God and the first thing I did was leave that apostate institution. If the Pope is not "the" anti-Christ, he is certainly one of them because the word "antichrist" means "In place of Christ." Anyone that sets himself up as the one by whom we must go through to get to Christ has usurped Christ's Authority and is, therefore, "Antichrist." Thank God He gave us the Scriptures so we could assess what is false and what is true by His own Word.
from NORTHERN IRELAND
Great Sermon! One of the few godly preachers left who stand up for the bible annd the blood!
"Woe on to me if I preach not the Gospel"
Donnell Gudger (9/30/2004)
Great Sermon! Praised and blessed be the name, person, and will of Almighty God [forever]. His word is not archaic or futuristic, but Eternal. As Paisley said...God is the same yesterday, today, and forever! Hallaluejah!
Nathan McDonald (7/6/2004)
Great Sermon! I am the Pastor of a Church in Scotland and have been preaching on the topic of Romanism & Ecumenism & The Heritage of Martin Luther and came by this artilce by accident or was it? I was greatly blessed by your bold speech against the Heresy of Rome. I doubt that this heretic that debated you on your show was even saved. Christ clearly says of the Church at Thiatara that they are the Church of continuing sacrafice and "Eat food unto Idols" The bible clearly states communicating with the dead is strictly forbidden may this deciever who you debated and in his on words defended a Church that God calls a Harlot repent of his sin.
Your brother in Christ
Anthony J. 'Tony' Lopez-Cisneros (5/24/2004)
from Chicago, IL, United States of America
Great Sermon! If the United States press would ever broadcast this debate between Dr. Ian Paisley and "Dr." Bark--American Protestantism would be exposed for what it is: "ROMAN 'CATHOLIC' CULTIC DECEIVED, SUBVERTED PSEUDO-PROTESTANTISM!!! Dr. Paisley does what every TRUE BIBLICAL-PROTESTANT LEADER HAS DONE THROUGHOUT REFORMATION HISTORY..."STOOD FOR THE 66 BOOKED-SCRIPTURE-ONLY, "SOLO-ESCRITURA", BIBLICAL-LITERALIST PROTESTANTISM; AND EXPOSED THE SATANIC ROMAN "CATHOLIC" CULT OF POPISH "JESUITIC" VATICANISM FOR WHAT IT BIBLICALLY, HISTORICALLY, AND CURRENTLY IS: "THE [WHORISH] WOMAN--ARRAYED IN PURPLE AND SCARLET COLOR, AND DECKED WITH GOLD AND PRECIOUS STONES AND PEARLS, HAVING A GOLDEN CUP IN HER HAND FULL OF ABOMINATIONS AND FILTHINESS OF HER FORNICATION: AND UPON HER FOREHEAD [IS] A NAME WRITTEN, MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. AND I SAW THE WOMAN DRUNKEN WITH THE BLOOD OF THE SAINTS, AND WITH THE BOOD OF THE MARTYRES OF JESUS:...AND HERE IS THE MIND WHICH HATH WISDOM. THE SEVEN HEADS ARE SEVEN MOUNTAINS, ON WHICH THE WOMAN SITTETH." (REVELATION 17:4-6b,9)...THE CITY ON SEVEN HILLS...ROME...THE PAPACY...THE VATICAN!!! HENCE, THE SATANIC ROMAN "CATHOLIC" CULT OF POPISH "JESUITIC" VATICANISM!
from Lurgan N.I.
Great Sermon! it seems to me John Bark does not like the Word of God! Dr. Paisley has a message that will never change through time, it stands for ever sure on the precious Word of God, it amazes me how he can stay so calm in the face of such ignorance from a so called "man of God!!"
from Sparta New Jersey
Great Dialog! Dr. Paisley has a gift of Bible knowledge we all need to "SURVIVE". It is not what our church leaders say, but what the sword of God reveals....(the Bible)
Wayne Marr (11/10/2003)
from Pflugerville, Texas
Awesome Debate I only wish more pastors in the United States had would tell the truth with regard to the Roman Catholic Church. Also, Dr. Paisley truly shows class when he states that the abuses are those of the papacy and not "day to day" Roman Catholics. I know many Roman Catholics in the United States have no idea exactly what the papacy means.
God bless you, Dr. Paisley.
Jean Hodinh (8/5/2003)
from Austin, TX
Great Sermon! You can argue the points of the erroneus thinking of the Roman Catholic Church but they will never change their traditions/beliefs until enlightened to do so and only the Truth/divine Love will force what will best promote the growth of the individual and the idea of true church. . . .thank you Dr. Paisley
Great Sermon! This is awesome! I can't wait to hear other sermons/debates by Dr Paisley. This was done over 14 years ago, but it is still for today.
I don't believe that a Pope will be the Anti-chirst(a political figure), but rather he will be the False prophet, the religious arm of the unholy trinity to come. Dr Paisley is correct about the false teachings of the Catholic Church. We need more voices like his. I see him as a godly man, earnestly contending for the faith. Thank you for this site. God bless you.
Ray Kane (12/27/2002)
from Middlesex, NJ
The meaning of Those of us who are truly Christ's can learn a lot from our dear brother Paisley about the meaning of the word "backbone" as it applies to a believer's steadfastness and courage. When I listen to his messages such as this one, I am reminded of Isaiah 50:7 "For the Lord GOD will help me; therefore shall I not be confounded: therefore have I set my face like a flint, and I know that I shall not be ashamed."
Steve Gordon (8/14/2002)
from Cambuslang, Scotland
Revealling Discussion! Clearly a difference is displayed in this discussion between a convinced Christian believer who tells it as He sees it (Paisley) and a career churchman who tells it as everybody else wants to hear it. Which of the two faces prosecution because of his beliefs? The same is the Man of God, after the likes of the apostle Paul. The double talking (I agree it's wrong, but don't condemn it - I sympathise with atheists etc. who denies even his own avowed ministry). Mr Paisley has never killed for his faith, but I'm sure he would die for it! That's a believer!
from Belleville, MI
Wow! Excellent debate! Mr. Bark and the moderator clearly need to read and study the Bible. Dr. Paisley is a brave man to oppose the pope.
Juan Jose Ponce -Rivera (3/9/2002)
from Carthage, TN. USA
Great Sermon! Great sermon. I was born in mexico,(Catholic) ,I came to America I found freedom( in Christ my lord) I found peace and eternal life in my lord jesus(Amen). I did not have to go to confess my sins to a priest, because we have a High priest in Heaven (our lord Jesus Christ).He is the one and the only one who can give you eternal life,and forgive the sins, NOT THE POPE(it's not hope in the Pope) ONLY JESUS( eternal life),I'm born again child of god, new creature in Christ, I preach the gospel of my lord jesus,since God called me to preach the gospel. you are going to be bless by god ,keep doing what he putts in your heart. god bless you. Dr.
Jock Hamish Hamlet Macbeth Ulster Scot (3/7/2002)
from Ulster (Monaghan)
Great Sermon! Super Dr P.
Ron Clarke (2/23/2002)
from Bronx New York
Great Sermon! First, thanks for providing a forum for this exchange. Secondly, the debate was most informative and I will share this message with others.
Finally, thanks again to sermonaudio.com
Joshua John (1/27/2002)
from hurricane, WV
I i think my grandma used the phrase something like "casting your pearl among the pigs" ...And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. man's wisdom is dumb.
from New Zealand
Great Sermon! Great work Dr. Paisley. About time a few more stood up and told the truth !
Ronald Simeon beuzekom (8/17/2001)
from The Netherlands
a deathblow th preterism Great Sermon,
You really put mr.Bark in his pants! He had nothing to say to the word of God you preached. May God bless you and my the Antichrist and his apostate church soon been overcome!
For Christ's Crown and Covenant...
Eunice Mansel (6/3/2001)
from Western Australia
Great Sermon! I am a ex R.C. and that Mr Bark wasn't saved,and he called himself a protestant well you did it great Mr Paisley, May be you should have told him what the word acctually means, it means a protest-ant against Rome Ha ha anyway Roman Catholicism is a discusting religion, I know, The Lord called me and I came out of her How I Praise God Almighty for the shed blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ.
from North Georgia
Great Sermon! Wonderful. A Must Read.
from Charleston WV
Great Sermon! That was a very good debate I really enjoy lisening to Sermon Audio great great work Dr. Paisley!!!!
Rev Dr Thaddeus Irvine (11/27/2000)
Great Sermon! As a former RC seminarian, and the only Fundamentalist Christian to have been allowed to study the 3-year course with Maryvale, Birmingham (a course to update priests, nuns and RC catechists on the 1994 RC Catechism, I think this is an excellent debate. I was really proud to hear Dr Paisley stand his ground - very successfully!!! It was lovely to hear how he wasn't swayed and stuck to his guns. Certainly NOT another powder-puff pastry preacher.
Dr. Ian Richard Kyle Paisley, the son of a godly Baptist pastor, for many years was a controversial but effective politician and has held electoral seats for many years in the British and European Parliaments, he currently sits as Ian Lord Bannside in the House of Lords in the...