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SUNDAY, DEC 27, 2020  |  14 comments
Bible sales soaring as more people worship at home
Bible sales are up as people worldwide find ways to cope with a pandemic.

LifeWay Christian Resources says it's one of the world's largest providers of Christian resources. The Tennessee-based company sells and distributes Bibles across the globe.

LifeWay's CEO told us bible sales have remained strong since the outbreak of the coronavirus in the United States with a significant increase in April through June.

"We believe this is no accident, as people often go to the Bible as a source of hope in times of crisis and uncertainty," said Lifeway CEO Ben Mandrell. "People draw hope from scripture because in it they see a God who is with us during our suffering. The Bible, as God's words to us, is a reminder that He doesn't leave us to walk through difficult times alone." ...


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News Item12/29/2020 2:07 PM
James Thomas  Find all comments by James Thomas
Neil wrote:
However great a man he may have been, he did not have the last word on how NT Greek should be translated. If one must paraphrase, it should be as close as possible to the original word, and "abusing themselves" is too vague – there are many ways to abuse oneself.
No he didn't have the last word and Tyndale was quite open to having his English translation from the Greek critiqued as he stated in his intro in the 1534 NT rendering. But He found that his Hebrew translation work helped him better translate the Greek into English by the Hebrew OT citations found in the Greek NT. Since Hebrew was more easily translated into English than Greek in his eyes, he utilzed that nuance to Essentially have Scripture translating Scripture.

And your right, there are many ways to abuse oneself like those who did so with man's wisdom defiling themselves, prefering their idols over God's Word.

1 Cor. 2:4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:

If you look across the prophets, the souls were defiled by lies served up by the priests. (Mal.2:1)

Same spoken here as well.

Ezek 37:23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols,

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News Item12/29/2020 11:44 AM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
James Thomas wrote:
...The translation found in the KJV is the same rendering William Tyndale first used in 1526
You're right, so it seems that Tyndale was likewise on the squeamish side. However great a man he may have been, he did not have the last word on how NT Greek should be translated. If one must paraphrase, it should be as close as possible to the original word, and "abusing themselves" is too vague – there are many ways to abuse oneself.
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News Item12/29/2020 8:45 AM
James Thomas  Find all comments by James Thomas
I did misunderstand your point so thanks for the clarification.

The translation found in the KJV is the same rendering William Tyndale first used in 1526 so the KJV translations team didn't do any whitewashing of the term but simply left it untouched like the other 90% of Tyndales translation. While I understand your reasoning, I think the original rendering by Tyndale paints a more accurate picture when other Scripture, like the examples I gave, is taken into consideration.

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News Item12/28/2020 5:48 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
James Thomas wrote:
Textual variants can be reconciled in a more
You seem to misunderstand; 1 Tim 1:10 has no textual variations of concern here. What varies is how the Greek word "arsenokoitēs" is translated; the KJV uses the euphemistic "abusers of themselves with mankind," which homosexual apologists can easily distort, while the older Geneva, with the same textual basis, uses a more blunt term that does better justice to the Greek.
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News Item12/28/2020 3:16 PM
James Thomas  Find all comments by James Thomas
Textual variants can be reconciled in a more proper way than the current practice of comparing them to other manusripts and coming to a conclusion based upon age or number of manuscripts. Instead we can allow Scripture to do so.

Using your example:

1 Tim 1:10For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind,

We can see that whoremongers defiled themselves with their own inventions.

In Jer 3:9 there were those who
committed adultery with stones and with stocks.

The context remains the same in these other examples as well.

Psalm 106:39
Thus were they defiled with their own works, and went a whoring with their own inventions.

Isa 24:5
The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.

Ezek 22:4
Thou art become guilty in thy blood that thou hast shed; and hast defiled thyself in thine idols which thou hast made;

Based upon what the prophets teach, The whoremongers appears to me to be part and parcel of the Great whore and the term in 1 Tim 1:10 seems appropriate to me.

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News Item12/28/2020 11:02 AM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
1611 wrote:
Give this a listen.
SermonAudio.com/sermon/101519175676379
Even if the speaker's allegations about "Roman Catholic" Bible translations were true, it still commits the Genetic Fallacy. We do not dismiss an idea just because someone we don't like touched it.

Old commentators like John Gill (who like other Puritans, never shrank from denouncing popery) never dismissed a textual variation because it happened to be from an "Alexandrian" manuscript. They understood, unlike irrational modern KJV fanatics, that translation variations must be addressed on a case-by-case basis. Though I agree with Gordon Clark that lower-criticism by Metzger et al. uses arbitrary and questionable rules.

1 Tim 1:10 is an example of how the KJV, while generally a good translation except for obsolescent vocabulary, whitewashes a Greek word (Strong's G733) with a euphemistic paraphrase. The Geneva uses a more accurate term that would likely be censored on this forum.

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News Item12/27/2020 7:36 PM
1611  Find all comments by 1611
Give this a listen.

SermonAudio.com/sermon/101519175676379

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News Item12/27/2020 3:34 PM
Adriel  Find all comments by Adriel
""We believe this is no accident, as people often go to the Bible as a source of hope in times of crisis and uncertainty,""

Why only now do they buy the Bible?

Is this the only "time of crisis and uncertainty" people have ever had?

I would have thought they'd have bought the Word of God as soon as they became Christian!

I've owned a Bible since before I was converted. The Lord prepared me for that day.

Psalm 67:1 God be merciful unto us, and bless us; and cause his face to shine upon us; Selah.
2 That thy way may be known upon earth, thy saving health among all nations.
3 Let the people praise thee, O God; let all the people praise thee.
4 O let the nations be glad and sing for joy: for thou shalt judge the people righteously, and govern the nations upon earth. Selah.
5 Let the people praise thee, O God; let all the people praise thee.
6 Then shall the earth yield her increase; and God, even our own God, shall bless us.
7 God shall bless us; and all the ends of the earth shall fear him."

Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart."

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News Item12/27/2020 8:37 AM
Joshua  Find all comments by Joshua
It doesn’t matter what u say Jim you voted for a child molester. There’s even videos of Biden kissing little girls on the lips and having his hand right near there rear end and it’s not even his kid. Explain that born again believer Jim Lincoln.
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News Item12/27/2020 8:20 AM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
WayneR wrote:
A thing I learned studying with the Watchtower Society prior to my conversion, be careful with a Bible version that removes or even adds just one letter. John 1: 1 see their New World Translation.
Next look up I Timothy 3: 16 in the KJV and the ending of Mark 16. Look up your own version and compare the NWT.
Study costs you time and effort. The Reformation Bibles v the Modern? The Received Text v The Critical?
WM 177: Jeff Riddle and James White Debate Mark 16:9-20
https://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=106201639404038
Debate Follow Up: The Two Most Shocking Things Said By James White in Our Debates
http://www.jeffriddle.net/2020/10/the-two-most-shocking-things-said-by.html?m=1
WM 179: Refuting James White's Four Internal Arguments Against Mark 16:9-20
http://www.jeffriddle.net/2020/10/wm-179-refuting-james-whites-four.html?m=1
Taylor DeSoto Responding to 20 Common Claims Made Against the TR
https://youngtextlessreformed.com/2020/10/06/20-articles-that-refute-modern-textual-criticism/
If the longer ending of Mark is God breathed, imagine removing it. Or removing GOD from I Tim 3: 16?
Serious business is a God breathed Bible version, so why the shorter e
Helpful. Thank you
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News Item12/27/2020 7:38 AM
Dr. Tim | Way Down Yonder  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
Jim, what difference does it make which version you read if you have no intention of obeying it? The Douay Version says “Thou shalt not kill,” but your buddy Joe Biden says go ahead and murder babies to your heart’s content. Your darling ESV says, in Hebrews 10:25, “not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near,” but you say we should ignore God’s commandment to assemble and substitute the illegal mandates of government instead. Why don’t you just burn your Bible and use the Democratic Party platform as your guide for living? You already live by it, so why not make it official?
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News Item12/27/2020 6:49 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Yes, one should be aware that the King James Version was used by the Jehovah witnesses before they came out with their own version. A Bible over 400 hundred years old Is just too antiquated.

AND BIBLE Has the NASB, which is accurate as you can get, and there are individual Bible programs For the 1984 NIV, The ESV, and the NKJV---All excellent versions of the Bible.

For good or ill, AND BIBLE app Has the KJV, Strong's Numbers, Vines etc.

You should read the following:

"Why I Do Not Think the King James Bible Is the Best Translation Available Today"

https://tinyurl.com/3a2m84

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News Item12/27/2020 6:06 AM
WayneR  Find all comments by WayneR
Jim Lincoln wrote:
...which won't cost you anything...
A thing I learned studying with the Watchtower Society prior to my conversion, be careful with a Bible version that removes or even adds just one letter. John 1: 1 see their New World Translation.

Next look up I Timothy 3: 16 in the KJV and the ending of Mark 16. Look up your own version and compare the NWT.

Study costs you time and effort. The Reformation Bibles v the Modern? The Received Text v The Critical?

WM 177: Jeff Riddle and James White Debate Mark 16:9-20
https://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=106201639404038

Debate Follow Up: The Two Most Shocking Things Said By James White in Our Debates
http://www.jeffriddle.net/2020/10/the-two-most-shocking-things-said-by.html?m=1

WM 179: Refuting James White's Four Internal Arguments Against Mark 16:9-20
http://www.jeffriddle.net/2020/10/wm-179-refuting-james-whites-four.html?m=1

Taylor DeSoto Responding to 20 Common Claims Made Against the TR
https://youngtextlessreformed.com/2020/10/06/20-articles-that-refute-modern-textual-criticism/

If the longer ending of Mark is God breathed, imagine removing it. Or removing GOD from I Tim 3: 16?

Serious business is a God breathed Bible version, so why the shorter e

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News Item12/27/2020 1:17 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
A free way to get a variety of Bibles and commentaries, which won't cost you anything it's download programs like AND BIBLE for Android devices!

2 Timothy 3:15-17

15. and that from childhood you have known the sacred writings which are able to give you the wisdom that leads to salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16. All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; 17. so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work. --
https://tinyurl.com/has82mk (NASB)

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