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SUNDAY, AUG 30, 2020  |  28 comments
Swedish Top Scientist Warns Against Relying on Masks to Stop COVID-19
According to Sweden’s top infectious disease expert, masks may not be effective at stemming the spread of COVID-19, and can even be more harmful than helpful as users tend to use masks as a crutch and avoid other measures that may be more effective because they feel secure in the masks.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has thrown its entire weight behind mask wearing to stop the spread of COVID-19, recommending that people wear masks any time they are with people outside of their home and when social-distancing measures are difficult to maintain. They even suggest wearing masks when it is possible to maintain a six-foot distance from others.

But Anders Tegnell, chief epidemiologist at Sweden’s Public Health Agency, notes there is little evidence that masks are effective, citing Sweden’s success in slowing the spread of the virus without the use of masks. ...


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News Item9/15/2020 5:10 AM
Watchmanrem | Australia  Find all comments by Watchmanrem
James Thomas wrote:
Thanks for your reply and yes...Always good to ponder.
I'm not sure if anyone preaches its about false teachers but Scripture teaches it there in the verse you pointed out.
I see Those that despised government of God and His Word being spoken of.
They were not afraid to speak evil of "dignities" or His glory.
Here's a link to that Greek term dignities and take a look at the other usage in other contexts.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G1391&t=KJV
Peter gets redundant in saying the same thing over and over but using different terminology but we get the benefit of knowing exactly who and what He is referring to.
2 Peter 2:2 by reason of whom **the way of truth shall be evil spoken of**.
speak evil of the things that they understand not;
Its clear They did not understand The way, the truth and the life.
Thx 👍

On a side note. Came across this on the week end no one mentioning this let alone all the zionist..
https://www.temple-coins.com/collections/featured/products/abraham-accord-historic-peace-treaty-between-israel-and-uea

Interesting times. Alot of SYMBOL in the death sword all symboles of satanic control. Note the syringe and vial. Peace and Grace on the Israel of God.😙

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News Item9/13/2020 7:24 PM
James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
Watchmanrem wrote:
I will ponder this more. I also came to 2 peter passage 2.10 was going to hear a sermon on this passage on s.a but none deal with government speaking evil of dignities in my view context verse 11 explains, well in my view very basic.
No one preachers this subject it all about false teachers?
Thanks for your reply and yes...Always good to ponder.

I'm not sure if anyone preaches its about false teachers but Scripture teaches it there in the verse you pointed out.

I see Those that despised government of God and His Word being spoken of.
They were not afraid to speak evil of "dignities" or His glory.

Here's a link to that Greek term dignities and take a look at the other usage in other contexts.

https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G1391&t=KJV

Peter gets redundant in saying the same thing over and over but using different terminology but we get the benefit of knowing exactly who and what He is referring to.

2 Peter 2:2 by reason of whom **the way of truth shall be evil spoken of**.

2 Peter 2:12 speak evil of the things that they understand not;

Its clear They did not understand The way, the truth and the life.

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News Item9/11/2020 6:30 PM
Watchmanrem | Australia  Find all comments by Watchmanrem
Thank for that brother James. I will ponder this more. I sincerely will. I also came to 2 peter passage 2.10 was going to hear a sermon on this passage on s.a but none deal with government speaking evil of dignities in my view context verse 11 explains, well in my view very basic.
No one preachers this subject it all about false teachers?
If you ad jude 9 in the mix.
As i said will ponder all these things. I know to the situations with peter as well as the nurses in Egypt.daniel 3 hebrews there is a time to say No to any government.
If you have any more to add about roman 13 thx. Back at work now so will be off and on. 😚
Jude 1 (KJV)
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²⁰ But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
²¹ Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.


²³ And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
²⁴ Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
²⁵ To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.😚

Remember no virus theory just exosomes

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News Item9/4/2020 9:42 PM
James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
Watchmanrem wrote:
Yes that does. 😚
So can i reject my leaders government and say they are not right what they do. Just trying to see if i understand right. How is what you are saying to what i already know.. 😚
Thx brother james
In my opinion and per our countries constitution, It's your right to say something If you think the civil governing authorities are doing wrong. We have plenty here in the USA who are doing wrong for sure.

My point is that Rom 13 has absolutely nothing to do with any civil government although I admit most think otherwise as most commentaries say so.

For some reason, its either missed or ignored That the same minister of God mentioned in Rom 13:4 is also found in the prophets more than once and not taken into consideration.

Here's one.

Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

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News Item9/3/2020 6:18 PM
Watchmanrem | Australia  Find all comments by Watchmanrem
Yes that does. 😚

So can i reject my leaders government and say they are not right what they do. Just trying to see if i understand right. How is what you are saying to what i already know.. 😚
Thx brother james

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News Item9/2/2020 10:24 PM
James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
Watchmanrem wrote:
I am glad you said you were vague it made me feel better 😊.
That helps if i am a pastor. How would it apply to us today.
Only after understanding the picture of what happened can we make any application but There's so much more to that picture than just pastors. What about the sheep they led astray?

Those pastors led God's sheep astray. Taught them to hate God (worship Baal) as opposed to love God.

Read the context surrounding these verses which gives even more light to the story.

Jer 50:6 6 My people hath been lost sheep: their shepherds have caused them to go astray,

Zech 13:7 Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the LORD of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be *;scattered**: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones.

Who was Peter's letter addressed to?

1:11 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the *strangers scattered*...same group in Zech 13:7.

Jer 12:16 And it shall come to pass, if they will diligently learn the ways of my people, to swear by my name, The LORD liveth; as they taught my people to swear by Baal; then shall they be built in the midst of my people.

Do these verses help solidify the picture?

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News Item9/1/2020 10:51 PM
Watchmanrem | Australia  Find all comments by Watchmanrem
James Thomas wrote:
Actually, I was kinda vague with my point so let me try again.
In Rom 13:4, there is a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil by a sword.
In Deut 32:41 God says He renders vengence to His enemies by a sword.
Here's an example of the revenge and sword in Jeremiah to be used against God's enemies (pastors)(spoilers) who taught lies(trust in Baal not God) which led His (sheep) people astray therefore destroying his vineyard (covenant).
Jer 12:10 Many pastors have
Does that help?
I am glad you said you were vague it made me feel better 😊.
That helps if i am a pastor. How would it apply to us today. I beleive verse 6 and 7 . Its a hard one for me personally as I know when it come to the body as the nurse's did they were rewarded by God.
Some take it that we obey rulers in all thing some have a list.
My delima is that some Christian i personally know obey in all things. But I dont.
Just like the government wants every church on taxation?
Do we obey or resist. On lock down do we obey or resist. What plain answer would you give.
Which ever you choose is there a wrong answer. Id say yes but its a hard one ..
Most times it me in my answers. Q are vague but it ain't in my mind. 😙
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News Item9/1/2020 5:19 AM
James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
Watchmanrem wrote:
Thx James the fault is with me my brain just carnt see your point.
Actually, I was kinda vague with my point so let me try again.

In Rom 13:4, there is a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil by a sword.

In Deut 32:41 God says He renders vengence to His enemies by a sword.

Here's an example of the revenge and sword in Jeremiah to be used against God's enemies (pastors)(spoilers) who taught lies(trust in Baal not God) which led His (sheep) people astray therefore destroying his vineyard (covenant).

Jer 12:10 Many pastors have destroyed my vineyard, they have trodden my portion under foot, they have made my pleasant portion a desolate wilderness.

Jer 12:12 The spoilers are come upon all high places through the wilderness: for the sword of the LORD shall devour from the one end of the land even to the other end of the land: no flesh shall have peace.

Jer 12:16 And it shall come to pass, if they will diligently learn the ways of my people, to swear by my name, The LORD liveth; as they taught my people to swear by Baal; then shall they be built in the midst of my people.

Jer 12:17 But if they will not obey, I will utterly pluck up and destroy that nation, saith the LORD.

Does that help?

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News Item8/31/2020 5:41 PM
Watchmanrem | Australia  Find all comments by Watchmanrem
HerbalMama wrote:
My body does not belong to him therefore I wi because I desire to
Hills become mountains. Give an inch they take a mile.
After i wrote my post this came to me when attending to my garden..Good post H.m..
Yes hills do become Mountains each inch ill become a km😆 or this thought if you want to make something in plain flour you dont want a little leaven. ☺

Thx James the fault is with me my brain just carnt see your point.Due to brain disorder. I do like to consider all basic christians views to allows give the scripture to interpret scripture. You have my email if you want to explain more. Is see Roman 13 a very important verse when compared to peters passage. Yet peter disobey when it came to preaching. Herbal mumma is like me i think our body is Jesus's and it was bought with a price.
We are constantly bombarded with this science say this , the sciences say that so we shall do this.. i dont think science is right at any time as to the full understanding like GOD..
Rom 13 and the other places like Moses birt. Etc..

Anyway thx EVERY one and may the Lord help us all to stay close to HIM remembering we are all sin daily and we have Him who bares our sin.May He make us weak that we may have strength to be strong in Spirit.😙

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News Item8/31/2020 2:51 PM
James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
Watchmanrem wrote:
Hi James since i am anyone else. Do you have a favorite sermon on romans 13. A sermon that will show Gods true intention use of Romans 13.
Thanks . Willing to listen.😊
No I don't Remo but I think God does a great job of telling us His true intention through His Word. The trail of citations given by The apostles whom God ordained to do so as well as other mentions in Scripture of the same events , teaches us the truth.

Just identifying the sword mentioned in Rom 13:4 alone would nullify the common belief that it is a reference to Civil government.

Here's what I read about it.

In Rom 2:6 Paul teaches that God will render to every man according to his deeds.

How? By what means? His glittering sword.

The sword is one In The same as the one spoken of in Deut 32:41.

When the wrath of God was revealed from heaven (Rom 1:18, Rev 19:11); is when the Lord wielded His glittering sword (Deut 32:41) which was/is in the hand of the minister of God to execute wrath on evildoers (Rom 13:4) by which all the sinners of His people die by the sword (Amos 9:10 cf Rom 7:9). This day is consistently named "the day of the Lord"; a day of darkness (Amos 5:20, Rom 13:12).

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News Item8/31/2020 10:45 AM
HerbalMama  Find all comments by HerbalMama
Chris, it really is sad. There are exemptions in my state for those under 10 but all children, as young as 2, are still wearing them. Even in school. It's not my new normal. It's not normal. Masks, despite their facial coverage, have brought out the ugly in people. It's obvious who would participate in a witch hunt complete with pitchforks. Compliance enables it to continue so all the masked grumblers are equivalent to the sideline watchers. Perhaps they don't take part in it per se but they're there and they're not stepping in to stop it. Maybe more people will stand up to tjis nonsense but I highly doubt that.
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News Item8/31/2020 8:02 AM
Chrisgp from England | England  Find all comments by Chrisgp from England
Equally, distressing to me is what is happening to children. It is shocking to me that many parents even put masks on little children. In England, up to 11 is the age of exemption, in Scotland it is 4, and some places, even worse, it is 2. Also many doctrinaire leftist states, they even have to wear them outside. This must be terrible for their body development. Instead of breathing in fresh air, they are continuously breathing in their own recycled CO2. This cannot be healthy. The level of fear is so bad, now schools mandate masks as part of the uniform, and there are punishments if the children do not wear them. This is very bad.
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News Item8/31/2020 6:50 AM
Chrisgp from England | England  Find all comments by Chrisgp from England
I saw a distressing scene the other day. A physically and probably mentally disabled man in a wheelchair wanted to go into a shop with a career, and another lady, probably a relative. It was obvious that he was distressed at having to wear a mask. The English rules do actually give such a person an exemption, but his carer was trying to force him to wear the mask. When I pointed out to the carer about this obvious exemption, he said. “Oh, but he is vulnerable”. In the end the chap didn’t go in and was wheeled off by his carer. Though shielding, has now been sort of dropped, but it basically is a kind of permanent house arrest for very elderly or unwell people. I used to see very disabled or elderly people going out on their own or with carers, now even that pleasure is gone, or they creep out with masks looking very downbeat.
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News Item8/31/2020 2:58 AM
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News Item8/30/2020 9:28 PM
HerbalMama  Find all comments by HerbalMama
Romans13 is the scapegoat for "obey all authority." The Dutch that hid Jews are in violation of Romans13 under that argument. It was not their place to question unsound policies. They're one example of many that dared to question things yet some would paint them as unbiblical while thumping then on the head with Romans 13.
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News Item8/30/2020 9:24 PM
HerbalMama  Find all comments by HerbalMama
Render unto Caesar what is Caesar. My body does not belong to him therefore I will wear a mask because I desire to do so or I won't wear a mask because I desire not to. Caesar has no say.
Hills become mountains. Give an inch they take a mile.
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News Item8/30/2020 8:02 PM
Watchmanrem | Australia  Find all comments by Watchmanrem
Hi James since i am anyone else. Do you have a favorite sermon on romans 13. A sermon that will show Gods true intention use of Romans 13.
Thanks . Willing to listen.😊
PEACE ,mercy on the Israel of God😚

True masks are not the hill to die for dont know 1 soul who.says it is to be fair...

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News Item8/30/2020 7:35 PM
James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
Neil wrote:
Rom. 13 teaches that obedience is due to secular authorities. I find no anarchist/libertarian qualification "only if their policies are sound."

the choice for me is easy and Biblical: I obey whether I think masks work or not, so as not to give offense.

Mask-wearing is not the "Hill to Die On" for Christians. Liberty of public worship is.

I agree Neil, The mask wearing is not the hill to die on. My wife and I have no problem complying with any business which requires them worn. And I agree with you on the Freedom to worship hill, if it's gone our country is gone.

I do have a sincere question for you or anyone else though.

Rom 13:4   For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for **he beareth not the sword in vain:** for he is the minister of God, **a revenger to execute wrath** upon him that doeth evil.

If the above "minister of God" is a reference to secular authorities, then why is that same revenger,  which revealed God's wrath in Rom 1:18 said to have come from heaven?  

Rom 1:18   For the wrath of God is revealed *from heaven* against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness. 

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News Item8/30/2020 4:24 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Rom. 13 teaches that obedience is due to secular authorities. I find no anarchist/libertarian qualification "only if their policies are sound." Because certain knowledge is impossible with empirical methods anyway (yes, "facts" are indeed fickle and changeable), the choice for me is easy and Biblical: I obey whether I think masks work or not, so as not to give offense.

Mask-wearing is not the "Hill to Die On" for Christians. Liberty of public worship is.

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News Item8/30/2020 4:20 PM
Christian | Home  Find all comments by Christian
I’m tied of wearing a mask. All I’m doing is helping the fear tactics from the left. It’s pointless for protecting me and most people know it. If I could get food without it I would.
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