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FRONT PAGE  |  10/21/2021
SATURDAY, AUG 22, 2020  |  20 comments  |  1 commentary
Court Affirms Right Of California Church To Meet Indoors
“We are pleased with the outcome today. Judge Mitchell L. Beckloff correctly found there is no court order prohibiting Grace Community Church from holding indoor services,” said Jenna Ellis, one of the Thomas More Society attorneys representing the church and Pastor John MacArthur.

“LA County continues to harass and target Pastor MacArthur. Having failed to get a court order to shut down the church they have sought three times, they’re going to try again by hauling us back into court. Ironically, LA County said in its application for contempt that, ‘Grace Church cannot thumb its nose at the court when decisions don’t go its way,’ yet that’s precisely what LA County is now doing themselves. We will simply continue to defend our client’s constitutionally protected rights because church is essential,” she added. ...


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News Item8/26/2020 12:23 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Good news.
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News Item8/24/2020 6:46 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Noname wrote:
Crazy.
Excerpt from “ What is going on with Jim Lincoln’s head”
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Oh you really should read the John Fea remarks--unfortunately he's entirely correct.

Through the years I have mentioned the John MacArthur Study Bible, usually the NKJV version, which was the first one I bought. Later, I bought an NASB because my church used it. t was the cheapest and smallest hard copy I could get, since I already had the NKJV. Thumbing through the newer version it just look like the same stuff without any changes.

Lo and behold, I got to hear a person teaching from the NASB the verse for Luke 15:17, it was rendered better then the one for the NKJV--which is rendered like the KJV and thus, took more explanation. I was glad to see the MacArthur group noticed the difference ❗👍

Even if you're near-sighted, I would suggest you buy the Bible's with the biggest type size.

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News Item8/24/2020 1:57 AM
Chrisgp from England | England  Find all comments by Chrisgp from England
The church must start making a stand in this matter of religious freedom. Sadly, here in Britain, apart from one evangelical Anglican vicar, and some black charismatic pastors, who haven’t followed through on their objections, there has been virtually no opposition to the restrictions caused by the COVID19 crisis and emergency orders.

As stated on another thread, I attended my church for the morning service for the first time since March, as they have just opened up (morning service only-all others still online only). Black and yellow tape, one way systems, lane markings, , pews closed, no entry signs on doors, no leaflets or books in foyer, everyone except the pastor in pulpit wearing masks, and listening to tinny recorded hymns without singing!! All rushing out at the end, of course!! Yes, there was a good prayer, and a good sermon from Matthew about the mustard seed parable, but how tragic, how sad, what a mockery of fellowship!! How can this hysteria and over reaction be justified!! The church must say, “Enough is enough!!” At least here in Britain, in comparison with the “People’s Republic of California”, and the disgraceful Marxist dictatorship of what is happening in Melbourne and Victoria State in Australia, we seem to have got off lightly!!

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News Item8/23/2020 5:57 PM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Nick wrote:
This is of the topic of the article, but MacArthur's "lordship salvation" has some theological issues. For example, he confuses some of Christ's requirements for discipleship with His requirements for salvation.
Two questions please (just addressing your post have no idea what MacArthur has stated)

Could you give an example where the Lord makes a distinction between being a disciple and being saved?

Into which category would the following quote from the Lord fall, in your thinking?

"For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall man give in exchange for his soul"

Thanks

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News Item8/23/2020 4:09 PM
Nick | USA  Find all comments by Nick
But I totally support the man in the stand he is taking.
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News Item8/23/2020 4:08 PM
Nick | USA  Find all comments by Nick
This is of the topic of the article, but MacArthur's "lordship salvation" has some theological issues. For example, he confuses some of Christ's requirements for discipleship with His requirements for salvation.
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News Item8/23/2020 2:30 PM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
Frank wrote:
Yes brother, a very good analogy! The only part of the below that a feminist and so many men and women, in the body of Christ intentionally compartmentalize is the head of the woman is man. Why do they do this? Because they believe that makes them of less value than a man and of course that is really silly. The below has nothing to do with value or worth otherwise Christ is not also God.
Eve wanted to be relevant in ways that were not according to God's design.
1 Corinthians 11:3 “But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.”
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News Item8/23/2020 11:08 AM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
John UK wrote:
I suppose it's a bit like a woman who marries a man without any intention of being obedient to him.
Yes brother, a very good analogy! The only part of the below that a feminist and so many men and women, in the body of Christ intentionally compartmentalize is the head of the woman is man. Why do they do this? Because they believe that makes them of less value than a man and of course that is really silly. The below has nothing to do with value or worth otherwise Christ is not also God.
Eve wanted to be relevant in ways that were not according to God's design.

1 Corinthians 11:3 “But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.”

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News Item8/23/2020 5:31 AM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
Frank wrote:
Amen brother! If someone who told me they were Christians and then stated that Christ was not their Lord, I would ask why and they would not give me "any" response. He is truly worthy to be trusted and obeyed.
I suppose it's a bit like a woman who marries a man without any intention of being obedient to him.
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News Item8/22/2020 6:44 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
John UK wrote:
Pilgrim Brother, thanks for your whole post, really blessed me.
I remember hearing about Lordship salvation for the first time only a few years ago, and felt inclined to look into it. So I dug out an article by John which sought to introduce what it was. It was not long, but long enough to make all the main points and he gave biblical proofs concerning the subject.
To my mind, it was biblical Christianity through and through, and I saw nothing wrong with it. Indeed, if anyone should tell me that Christ was their Saviour, but that they wouldn't have this Man reign over their life, I would seek to graciously point them to scripture and show them their error, for they certainly are not yet saved.
The time to willingly bend the knee and acknowledge Christ as Lord is now, not some future time when God's enemies will be forced to do so.
As you say bro, it is not a form of works-based salvation, but the real thing.
Amen brother! If someone who told me they were Christians and then stated that Christ was not their Lord, I would ask why and they would not give me "any" response. He is truly worthy to be trusted and obeyed.
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News Item8/22/2020 5:28 PM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
Frank wrote:
I learned a great deal from his Lordship salvation books. Basically if Jesus is your Savior then He must also be your Lord. This has nothing to do with works based salvation, but simply a relationship with Him. No one can deny He is both except the easy believism antinomian folks.
Pilgrim Brother, thanks for your whole post, really blessed me.

I remember hearing about Lordship salvation for the first time only a few years ago, and felt inclined to look into it. So I dug out an article by John which sought to introduce what it was. It was not long, but long enough to make all the main points and he gave biblical proofs concerning the subject.

To my mind, it was biblical Christianity through and through, and I saw nothing wrong with it. Indeed, if anyone should tell me that Christ was their Saviour, but that they wouldn't have this Man reign over their life, I would seek to graciously point them to scripture and show them their error, for they certainly are not yet saved.

The time to willingly bend the knee and acknowledge Christ as Lord is now, not some future time when God's enemies will be forced to do so.

As you say bro, it is not a form of works-based salvation, but the real thing.

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News Item8/22/2020 4:45 PM
Noname | Mississippi  Find all comments by Noname
Crazy.

Excerpt from “ What is going on with Jim Lincoln’s head”

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News Item8/22/2020 3:51 PM
MS  Find all comments by MS
I would recommend Scott Price and his sermons on Real Lordship Salvation, over John MacArthur ‘s any day of the week.
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News Item8/22/2020 3:37 PM
Nick | USA  Find all comments by Nick
Mr. Lincoln, I'm not sure what your agenda is, so I won't pretend to know. But your method is dead wrong. Time and time again, when a pastor takes a stand for following scripture and for constitutional rights, you accuse him of being motivated by money. Do you even know the man personally? Even if you do, do you know his heart as well as God does? Stop pretending like you do.
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News Item8/22/2020 3:16 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
John Fea wrote:
I could say a lot of things here about John MacArthur, pastor of Grace Community Church in Sun Valley, California, but until yesterday I always thought he took a pretty consistent stand on passages like Romans 13 that require Christians to submit to governing authorities. Whether you agree or disagree with MacArthur’s interpretation and application of Romans 13, his views have changed little over time. As I have noted before as this blog, MacArthur even believes that the American Revolution was staged in violation of this biblical passage....

What happened to the principled Romans 13 argument that MacArthur made back in May? He addresses this issue in an addendum posted....

This reads like some of the American patriots in the 1760s and 1770s trying to twist and contort their reading of Romans 13 and 1 Peter 2 in order to justify the American Revolution against the arguments of Loyalists clergy like Samuel Seabury and Charles Inglis

excerpts from, "What is going on with John MacArthur and Romans 13?"

https://tinyurl.com/y2w44avt

Did I mention I still like John MacArthur's NKJV Study Bible.

by the way perhaps the only complaint I have about the study Bibles is that the print is smaller than it should be.

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News Item8/22/2020 3:14 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
“LA County continues to harass and target Pastor MacArthur.

Above is from the article.

I have to admit that I have always liked MacArthur. I don’t like some of the things he professes, but then I’m sure he doesn’t agree with me on those and other things.

I learned a great deal from his Lordship salvation books. Basically if Jesus is your Savior then He must also be you’re your Lord. This has nothing to do with works based salvation, but simply a relationship with Him. No one can deny He is both except the easy believism antinomian folks.

I also know that many people hate MacArthur because of his stance against feminism and especially the evangelical feminist movement that has infiltrated the church. Just google MacArthur and evangelical feminism and you will find some interesting articles.

Lastly, there is nothing the authorities can do to MacArthur that will disrupt his life or his ministry. I think SA should use some lesser known pastor that is being forced to do something that he doesn't think is biblical.

I have no urge and will not debate any MacArthur naysayers.

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News Item8/22/2020 2:08 PM
MS  Find all comments by MS
Ladybug and TMC, 👍
What this country needs is more unemployed politicians.
As one evil tyrant rightly said; “What luck for rulers that men do not think”.🤔
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News Item8/22/2020 12:15 PM
Buckeyes | USA  Find all comments by Buckeyes
(TMC) @Ladybug
Exactly! The virus is real, and dangerous for some folks, but I think Fauci is evil and in a just world, should be in jail for funding unethical “gain of function” manipulation of bat coronaviruses at the Wuhan lab. 😡. And don’t forget it was his model that encouraged governors to put Covid positive patients in Nursing Homes so the hospitals wouldn’t be “overrun”. 😡
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News Item8/22/2020 10:52 AM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
This is hypocrisy- one who favorably quotes JMac when it suites their agenda, as Jim has done REPEATEDLY in the past. Then, when that person[s] goes against Jim's Communist agenda, he rails against them. It isn't hard to see Jim Lincoln comes to SA daily to push the Communist manifesto agenda the Democrats and far left elite like George Soros and Bill Gates push and fund.

The 'coronavirus' is the biggest hoax of this century, NO disrespect to those who succumbed to it due to age and other underlying health issues. They planned this meticulously as a 'weapon' of control and fear, Fauci even funded the Wuhan Lab this 'escaped' from https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/27/anthony-fauci-should-explain-37-million-wuhan-labo/ Yes, a virus so 'deadly' Fauci takes his mask OFF when he thinks no one is looking.https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/07/phony-fauci-blasted-taking-off-mask-ballpark-terrible-first-pitch/

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News Item8/22/2020 10:35 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
It appears that covid-19 has not shown up at John's worship services, I hope he is thanking God for that, besides all the attendees at his worship service.

Just because a church can make a political statement, which what this is actually, doesn't mean it is prudent to do so, and giving imprudent examples is not overly Christian either.

Of course I think John already knows about this:

1 Timothy 6:10

For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some have been led astray from the faith in their greed, and have pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

Many weaker pastors are not being set a good example ❗👎

He certainly can do over the Internet, worship services.

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