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SATURDAY, AUG 11, 2018  |  7 comments
Jeff Sessions Cleared in Church Complaint
United Methodist Church officials in Alabama have dismissed a complaint signed by more than 600 church members in July that chided Attorney General Jeff Sessions for implementing the family separation policy along the border and attempting to justify it with Scripture.

But the logic of the decision, which cited a distinction between personal behavior and the actions of public officials, is not sitting well with some Methodist leaders.

The formal dismissal of the complaint by the Rev. Debora Bishop, district superintendent of the Alabama-West Florida UMC Conference, where Sessions‚Äô home church resides, came in a letter on July 30. It amounts to a final decision on the charges of child abuse, immorality, racial discrimination and ‚Äúdissemination of doctrines contrary to the standards of doctrine of the United Methodist Church.‚ÄĚ ...


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News Item8/14/18 12:00 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
This past Sunday at my Baptist Church one of the Elder's gave the sermon because Pastor was still on vacation. Pastor is back this coming Sunday.
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News Item8/12/18 12:06 PM
penned  Find all comments by penned
utterly illogcal and bereft of facts.

but just to give some context as to what he faced entering into this...

from 2015

Title: Tom DeLay: Justice Dept. Wants to Legalize 12 'Perversions'

Read Newsmax: Tom DeLay: Justice Dept. Wants to Legalize 12 'Perversions'

https://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/Tom-DeLay-Justice-Department-perversions/2015/06/30/id/652929/

"Things like bestiality, polygamy, having *** with little boys and making that legal," DeLay said Tuesday on "The Steve Malzberg Show" on Newsmax TV."

and just to add to this....

Title: Hollywood Director James Gunn Publicly Posted Photos of Himself at a Pedophilia-Themed ‚ÄėTo Catch a Predator‚Äô Party

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/08/hollywood-director-james-gunn-publicly-posted-photos-of-himself-at-a-pedophilia-themed-to-catch-a-predator-party/

"The images feature the former Disne* director dressed up as a priest surrounded by women dressed like young children."

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News Item8/12/18 11:28 AM
Carl haydock | England  Contact via emailFind all comments by Carl haydock
Rev Deborah?? Mmm not exactly biblical there.
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News Item8/12/18 11:23 AM
Yolanda | AZ  Find all comments by Yolanda
And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God. For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him ( 2 Cor. 5:18-21).
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen (MT 28:19, 20).

For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek (ROM 1:16).

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News Item8/11/18 4:17 PM
Don Tian | Kidney Hills  Find all comments by Don Tian
Read the article about South Carolina churches closing. United Methodists were losing many churches, and this article might help explain why. When 'over 600 members' can file a complaint against the US Attorney General, just because his church is within their district, is utter foolishness.
The late President Richard Milhouse Nixon was a Quaker, but I never read of that church ever condemning his behavior, especially in terms of the raunchy language he used or his management of this country's losing efforts in Vietnam.
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News Item8/11/18 1:31 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Jack Jenkins wrote:
The Rev. William B. Lawrence,¬†a former president of the UMC‚Äôs Judicial Council, said Bishop‚Äôs logic was ‚Äúproblematic.‚ÄĚ

Lawrence said Bishop was invoking a secular legal concept known as the principle of ‚Äúsuperior orders‚ÄĚ ‚ÄĒ the idea that an individual cannot be held accountable for illegal actions if they were ordered to enact them by someone else.

‚ÄúI do not follow the logic that grants someone, even the president of the United States, the right to ‚Äėsuperior orders‚Äô with regard to church law,‚ÄĚ Lawrence said.

Lawrence further noted that the ‚Äúsuperior orders‚ÄĚ defense has failed in U.S. courts.¬†In the 1813 case United States v. John Jones, a privateer‚Äôs crew was¬†tried for stealing from a Portuguese vessel during the War of 1812. The crew members insisted they were simply following their captain‚Äôs orders, but the judge dismissed their argument and found them guilty.

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Former Nazi officers tried this defense also and it didn't get them anywhere

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News Item8/11/18 6:02 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Methodism? Lost the plot? Did they ever really have the plot? Well, some of them did, for sure.
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