Traditional Dutch Christmas celebrations might be a violation of what the United Nations describes as “international law,” but Buddhism and “Lord Buddha” can help “enlighten” the world and advance the UN's controversial Agenda 2030, according to UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon. Ironically, just this week, the UN accused Burmese Buddhists of committing potential crimes against humanity against Myanmar's Muslim Rohingya community. It was not clear whether U.S.-based anti-religious groups such as the ACLU planned to launch a lawsuit over the brazen promotion of the Eastern religion.
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US, An infidel denies that Jesus is God. And since the Apostles and Nicene Creeds(Statement of Faith of the Catholic Church) states "We believe in one Lord Jesus Christ the only begotten Son of God" which is the biblical and historical Jesus that Catholics worship as God then Catholics are not infidels. None of the Protestant Reformers believed the Catholic Church worships a false jesus because they were under the guidance of the Holy Spirit and had all their marbles. The Bible readings, prayers to the biblical and historical Jesus, the Lord's Prayer and the words of the biblical and historical Jesus during the Eucharistic Prayer are all scriptural parts of the Mass. And thus if I only participate in the scriptural parts to the Mass and refrain from participating in the unscriptural parts to the Mass then I am not partaking in all the Mass. And quit implying that I am not really saved just because I attend the Catholic Church. If I embraced the biblical and historical Jesus as Savior and trust entirely in Him alone for salvation then I am really saved according to Baptist and biblical doctrine which nowhere states that church attendance in any church including an Evangelical Church is required for salvation and entering Heaven.
John Yurich USA wrote: US, First off an infidel denies that Jesus is God which means that since Catholics worship Jesus as God then they are not infidels.
Quoting Bible verses does not make something "Scriptural", unless you want to say that the devil tempting Christ (Matthew 4:6)was the Scriptural thing to do. (note Christ did not Matthew 4:7) The priest who is executing the mass is giving it in all its parts. You are partaking it from him. Thus you are partaking in all its parts which are every bit blasphemous. I know nothing can be said to make you see the truth. Maybe if you took the time to read Foxes Book of Martyrs you would see what a bunch of infidels make up the RCC. THEY WORSHIP A FALSE CHRIST THAT THEY HAVE MADE UP, so it is an outright lie to say they worship Jesus as God when they do not.
May God give you no rest until you turn to Him for true salvation.
US, First off an infidel denies that Jesus is God which means that since Catholics worship Jesus as God then they are not infidels. Second, it is not a requirement for salvation to adhere to those verses that you provided because there is only one requirement for salvation and that is to embrace Jesus as Savior and trust entirely in Him alone for salvation. Third the Commandments Jesus was speaking of were the Ten Commandments because the Ten Commandments are the only commandments. Fourth, if I were not really converted and guided by the Holy Spirit would I have started to know immediately after the Altar Call that there are unscriptural Catholic doctrines and unscriptural parts to the Mass? The answer is no because an individual not guided by the Holy Spirit does not have the ability to know there are unscriptural Catholic doctrines and unscriptural parts to the Mass.
JY, what does God say about false teachers to believers
I Timothy 6:5 (exhortation starts in verse 3)"...from such withdraw thyself" Withdraw is defined as to remove, to desist, same word when Satan departed from Christ after the three listed temptations, he clearly LEFT Him.
Romans 16:17 "...avoid them"
Ephesians 5:11 "have NO fellowship with..."
II Corinthians 6:17 "Wherefore come OUT from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord..."
II Corinthians 6:15 "...what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?"
What did Paul want done with false teachers (like the RCC)
Galatians 5:12 "I would they were even cut off..."
You admit they teach false doctrine, yet you stay in the RCC and do things they teach as the way to eternal life (partake in mass, go to their assembly, want RCC marriage, baptize infants, etc) You are constantly defending them here.
I John 2:3,4 And hereby we do know that we know Him, if we KEEP his commandments, he that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
Until the genuineness of your "conversion" is proved by your obedience the Scriptures (so please note your argument is not with me or my opinion)then there is no reason for you to think your profession is true.
US, How many times do I have to state this before you grasp it? I DON'T PARTAKE IN ANY OF THE UNSCRIPTURAL PARTS TO THE MASS. And I AM NOT STILL PARTAKING THE RCC ROAD TO SALVATION since I accept the biblical doctrine of salvation that salvation comes only through embracing Jesus as Savior and trusting entirely in Him alone for salvation. The only thing I ever stated about the Catholic Sacrament of marriage is that I plan on marrying a Catholic woman. As to future children. I never stated I would have them sprinkled. I stated I would have them immersed(the biblical form of Baptism). The Catholic Church permits immersion as a form of Baptism for babies and older individuals being Baptized. It has not been a quarter of a century since I embraced Jesus as Savior and started trusting entirely in Him alone for salvation. It was in November 1997 when that took place. If I was not really Born Again and guided by the Holy Spirit would I have the ability to know there are unscriptural Catholic doctrines and unscriptural parts to the Mass? No I would not because it is impossible for someone not guided by the Holy Spirit to know those things.
Kev, No, a Jehovah's Witness or Mormon can't say the Apostles and Nicene Creeds because they deny that Jesus is God.
John Y, when you say people are Anti- Catholic, that is a technique that Mormons & others try to use, that tactic. I personally don't hate Roman Catholic people, I just hate to see people be deceived by false hope, in another gospel message of works, in a Jesus who needs help. Embracing Rome doctrines through the Catechism, will dam ones soul to Hell, for all of eternity. If we love truth & obey the truth through Christ alone. Because He has set the captive free & indeed, one willn't be ashamed of the gospel. Or leaving a Church that is soft pedaling the word of God, as their is only one Vicar of Christ alone, Himself alone amen.
Spurgeon: It is our solemn conviction that where there can be no real spiritual communion there should be no pretense of fellowship.
Fellowship with known and vital error is participation in sin.
Consider the testimony of the average born-again, redeemed by the blood of Christ believer.
I was a hell-bound, hell-deserving lost sinner but God in His mercy and grace reached down and saved my soul, He opened my blinded eyes and brought me up out of a terrible pit and planted my feet on the rock of the Lord Jesus Christ. I am not perfect, but by the grace of God I am not what I was, old things passed away and all things have become new. I want to love, honor, obey, and glorify my Lord and desire to see His image implanted deep within me. My longing is now for that which is eternal and this world is my passage not possession. I can't thank God enough for what He has done for an undeserving wretch like me.
Consider John Y's "testimony"
*I* came down to an altar and *I* embraced Jesus as the only way to heaven. My life, well it changed, but only in my head. *I* decided that *I* could still go on in the way I was before *I* embraced Jesus as the only way to heaven and what *I* did was nobody's business. *I* can't wait to make the wealth of this world my portion and *I'll* give God what *I* think is His due by having someone else give an altar call at the end of county music (which we all know honors God )concert.
Yep, no excuses, whatsoever. None. He who loves me keeps my commandments. Almost every fatalistic doctrine is anti-Christ, anti-bible, anti-God which any truly born again Christian should adhor and want no part of. Any creed is a puff of smoke...smoke and mirrors if the evidence proves just the opposite. There's no such thing as a partially Christian church, as you so often claim, John...that's not logical, but rather, bits and pieces that you sift through in order to make your stay justifiable in your mind. No, Christ won't ask what church you attended, but He will know where your heart belonged and the personal comprimises you chose in the name of comfort. Is simple belief truly enough, or must we obey and have nothing to do with the works of darkness?
s c wrote: I'm still wondering why John Y attends a church which "re-sacrifices" "Christ". What Christ did the one time didn't take?
SC, I reckon it's something to do with control.
For example, the RCC is effectively saying to people, "You need Christ, and we can supply him to you. Indeed, we are the only church which can do that, because we have the [magic show] priests who can make wafer and wine into Jesus, who you then eat and drink and have eternal life.
WHAT AN ABOMINATION!!
AND DECEPTION!!
John Yurich sadly will have no excuse when he appears before God to give account. He has been given much, therefore much will be expected of him. The first of which is to depart from the lying and deceiving Catholics. But then, John is lying and deceiving the RCC in not making his [magic show] priest cognizant of his anti-Catholic beliefs. It's just a coil of lies and deceptions, which never ends well. Which is why, John.......
Good evening John. These creeds a Jehovah's Witness can say he believes look at the words. I believe a Jehovahs witness would have no problem with any of these lines. This is a good article about the Apostles Creed. http://www.trinityfoundation.org/journal.php?id=108 I know we went to a church and they said we believe in the Roman Catholic Church and it about drove my wife off I had to explain the historical context. I think we need to look at these creeds and see how it impacts people and how it states beliefs. I think a good line for a creed is that we have one mediator between man and God the Man Christ Jesus. Or maybe something like this. We have one Father, who art in heaven. Or maybe we have one God the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit. If we had creeds like these maybe it could show that we do not believe in all the actions of these other "denominations". But I say if you preach Jesus right you don't need a creed to align your faith it will be clear in the preaching. We should always try to get anyone who is not worshiping God in truth to bring their actions into the light. As far as if they are Christians that's work.
John Y, we have previously put up a rather orthodox statement of faith from the Mormon website. Obviously those in Matthew 7 called Jesus Lord and did many things in His name. RCC, regardless of their creed, teaches salvation through sacraments not Christ. Paul said this is anathema. John said don't even wish them Godspeed. You say, go to their "worship" services and partake in their blasphemous rituals. You even defend this church which is the enemy of our precious Lord Jesus Christ. It is obvious to all but you, you are still partaking in the RCC road to salvation. (further evidenced by how you say you will address the "sacrament" of marriage and have your children sprinkled by a RCC priest)
Then we are to believe that you do all this for over a quarter of a century since your alleged conversion but you have the Spirit of God indwelling you? What fellowship has Christ with Belial, NONE!! There were no denominations or church for that matter when Christ walked this earth, so your argument is bogus. What Christ did say through the apostle John is that he that says he knows Him and keeps not His commandments is a liar. He says His sheep FOLLOW Him. If you loved God more than the RCC you would have left it decades ago. Can't serve 2 masters.
Note: Anyone who claims to worship Christ also commits to obediance. So, my question is this: Is the church of Rome obediant or defiant? Whether or not they truly worship Christ lies within the answer. A creed is just mere words, a ouff of smoke if the evidence suggests otherwise.
NeedHim wrote: John Y the Biblical doctrine of Grace & Justification are Heaven & Hell issues, not the myth of purgatory. John Y this are issues that deal specifically in the person of Christ & His finished works. Canon 11. If anyone says that men are justified either by the sole imputation of the justice of Christ or by the sole remission of sins, excluding grace and charity which is poured into their hearts by the Holy Spirit and inheres in them, or also that the grace which justifies us is only the favour of God, let him be anathema. In which goes against Rom 4:4-6, Rom 5:9,& v-19.
Yes of course Purgatory is non existent. But the fact is that the Catholic Church has always believed in and worshiped the biblical and historical Jesus as God. That states so in the Apostles and Nicene Creeds which is the Statement of Faith of the Catholic Church. Even the most Anti Catholic Protestant ministers have acknowledged the Catholic Church worships the biblical and historical Jesus as God. And I accept the biblical doctrine of Grace and Justification that salvation comes only through embracing Jesus as ones Savior and Lord and trusting entirely in Him alone for salvation. If I did not believe that I would not have embraced Him as Savior and Lord.
John Y the Biblical doctrine of Grace & Justification are Heaven & Hell issues, not the myth of purgatory. John Y this are issues that deal specifically in the person of Christ & His finished works.
Canon 11. If anyone says that men are justified either by the sole imputation of the justice of Christ or by the sole remission of sins, excluding grace and charity which is poured into their hearts by the Holy Spirit and inheres in them, or also that the grace which justifies us is only the favour of God, let him be anathema.
NeedHim wrote: John Y,Rome Jesus doesn't save & justify one by His merits alone.
Can't you grasp it that the Statement of Faith of the Catholic Church(The Apostles and Nicene Creeds) states "We believe in One Lord Jesus Christ the only begotten Son of God", which is the biblical and historical Jesus the Catholic Church has always believed in and worshiped as God. Even Luther and all the Protestant Reformers who were under the guidance of the Holy Spirit stated the Catholic Church worships the biblical and historical Jesus as God and never stated the erroneous statement that the Catholic Church worships another Jesus. The most Anti Catholic Evangelical Protestant ministers have stated the Catholic Church worships the biblical and historical Jesus.
Connor, I don't believe the Virgin Mary remained a Virgin but had other children with Saint Joseph. And I accept the creation account in Genesis as the way creation took place.
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