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SATURDAY, JAN 2, 2016  |  500 comments
Bibles called dangerous as cigarette smoke?

A team of anti-religion activists dedicated to removing those Gideon-placed Bibles from motel rooms says university facilities can’t have them because they’re linked to the government.

And they say private motels can’t have the Bibles, either, because they could “endanger your health and life” and they are as dangerous, like cigarette smoke.

The far-reaching claims are being made in a campaign targeting motel rooms by officials with the Freedom from Religious Foundation, and they are being met with answers from the American Center for Law and Justice, which has written to motels explaining, yes, they can allow Bibles in their rooms under the Constitution’s freedom of speech, and no, the Bibles really aren’t like cigarette smoke. ...


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News Item5/17/16 4:50 PM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
1 Timothy 4.1- 5
1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; ....commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

Since meat and drink (including wine) are included in Romans 14 as issues of conscience, these verses are a sobering consideration. They prophesy of the Pharisees who will arise in the end times who think that their asceticism makes them special and that everyone should be an ascetic like them.

The verses speak for themselves.

Take heed of people like sc and BM.

Col 2.20 -23
Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances, (Touch not; taste not; handle not; Which all are to perish with the using ) after the commandments and doctrines of men? Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.

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News Item5/17/16 3:29 PM
s c | Oh  Find all comments by s c
No one said that they were slandering the new wine.
Lay off the booze people.
The people were slandering the disciples.
Shame on you for suggesting/slandering me in regards to transgenderism just because I use better judgment in not sharing personal information with people like you.
Good advice for children:
Avoid the boozers. They have poor judgment and lack discernment.
And woe to the children of the boozers.
Hopefully,you will see the foolishness of ingesting intoxicants and steer away from them. If you do get addicted to something in the future,don't let your hypocritical parents shirk the responsibility of setting their bad pattern. You are responsible but they were bad role models.
It would also benefit some on here to have a better understanding of words like pharisee as well.
They will be the first ones to jump down the throats of the potheads but don't say anything against their choice drug.
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News Item5/17/16 10:09 AM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
...cont/d

People's New Testament

New wine. More exactly, sweet wine, a wine made by soaking raisins, pressing out and fermenting the juice, which was very intoxicating.

Vincent's word studies

New wine ( γλεύκους )
Lit., “sweet wine.” Of course intoxicating.

Matthew Poole

New wine, or sweet wine; which done, may inebriate; and might be had at that time, though the full vintage was not yet.

Mark Dunagan's Commentary

"FILLED WITH NEW WINE"-i.e. these men are drunk. ""new wine"..is misleading, for it carries the idea it was just freshly squeezed. That cannot be, for at the time of year when Pentecost falls the only wine available was last year"s vintage. The vintage of the current year is still some months off.." (Reese p. 56) "Lit., "sweet wine"" (Vincent p. 451) ""Sweet wine" was artificially prepared to retain its sweetness and extra strength and was very intoxicating." (Reese p. 56)

Vine's expository dictionary

“gleukos (1098) denotes sweet “new wine,” or must, Acts 2:13, where the accusation shows that it was intoxicant and must have been undergoing fermentation some time.¶ In the Sept, Job 32:19”

If you want more, let me know

Now back to my glass.

With your Agenderism you must be thrilled with Obama's bathroom assault!

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News Item5/17/16 1:00 AM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Praise to God Almighty brother!!! We are in Tennessee after my daughter-in-law had 2 miscarriages. But we are ever so grateful for our beautiful 8 month old granddaughter. Just have to pray for my wife...she expects me to share the baby when she comes over
Thanks brother, But as you can appreciate from your own experience, we will be on pins and needles for a few months.

Enjoy your precious gift, brother, and forgive your wife. She means well even though she doesn't understand.

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News Item5/17/16 12:11 AM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Lurker wrote:
Same here. Dear sister Dorcas..... you are in my prayers during this time of trial.
Btw, I remember you were among many who prayed for my daughter when she miscarried her first pregnancy last year. Thanks to you all if I didn't thank you then and praise be to God, she just announced she is expecting again come November 21st.
Praise to God Almighty brother!!! We are in Tennessee after my daughter-in-law had 2 miscarriages. But we are ever so grateful for our beautiful 8 month old granddaughter. Just have to pray for my wife...she expects me to share the baby when she comes over
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News Item5/16/16 10:28 PM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Please include me with those who will by God's grace uphold sister Dorcas in prayer.
Same here. Dear sister Dorcas..... you are in my prayers during this time of trial.

Btw, I remember you were among many who prayed for my daughter when she miscarried her first pregnancy last year. Thanks to you all if I didn't thank you then and praise be to God, she just announced she is expecting again come November 21st.

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News Item5/16/16 9:57 PM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Please include me with those who will by God's grace uphold sister Dorcas in prayer.
My prayers may not be much but my God is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all we ask or think!! He said He will be with you to strengthen, help and uphold you by His omnipotent hand. God's blessing to you and yours dear sister.

Sister ladybug thanks for the great quote by John Newton May He be pleased to keep us humble.

Isaiah 66:2 For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.

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News Item5/16/16 8:57 PM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
Dear sister Dorcas,
I will continue to keep you in prayer. May God give you strength and see you thru this difficult time. Much love to you.

Now, concerning the insanity of the Pharisees on this thread, I thought this from John Newton was most appropriate, "Among the many general causes of decline in grace, we may assign a principal place to spiritual pride and self-admiration. If our attainments in knowledge and giftedness, and even in grace--seduce us into a good opinion of ourselves, as if we were wise and good--we are already ensnared, in danger of falling every step we take, of mistaking the right path, and proceeding from bad to worse--without a power of correcting or even of discovering our deviations! That is--unless and until the Lord mercifully interposes, by restoring us to a spirit of humility, and dependence upon Himself. For God, who gives more grace to the humble--resists the proud! He beholds them with abhorrence--in proportion to the degree in which they admire themselves! It is the invariable law of His kingdom, that everyone who exalts himself--shall be abased!"

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News Item5/16/16 8:47 PM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
s c wrote:
Of course,discernment and understanding would be necessary for one to see this.
If one can't understand when people are slandering and being sarcastic in the text of Scriptures
sigh, really, they are not slandering new wine, its has no feelings to be hurt or reputation to uphold. The verse where the mocking occurs clearly states, "Others mocking said, These MEN are full (or having been filled) of new wine." The apostle clearly replied, "THESE (men from previous verse) are not DRUNKEN as you suppose." It is clear what Peter is saying. Those who made the statement were insinuating that these who were speaking in foreign tongues were intoxicated BECAUSE they were full of NEW wine.

Thus you cannot miss the FACT that it was understood in that day that new wine had the ability to make one drunk.

But Jesus wouldn't make something that could make men drunk, see John 1:3 and Col. 1:16

We should strive to rightly divide the Word of truth

Also, just fyi, if Observer has an email archive, he has the post where you stated " If you have a different experience at your local mall,good for you. I wouldn't be comfortable as a woman walking in the mall and having to pass lingerie stores with men perched on the benches..."

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News Item5/16/16 5:59 PM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
You asked a study on "new wine".. here are a few comments on Acts 2.13:

Expositor's Greek Testament

Neither the context nor the use of the word elsewhere obliges us to suppose that it is used here of unfermented wine. Its use in Lucian, Ep., Sat., xxii. (to which reference is made by Wendt and Page), and also in LXX, Job 32:19, ὥσπερ ἀσκὸς γλεύκους ζέων δεδεμένος, points to a wine still fermenting, intoxicating, while the definition of Hesychius, τὸ ἀπόσταγμα τῆς σταφυλῆς πρὶνπατηθῇ, refers its lusciousness to the quality of its make (from the purest juice of the grape), and not of necessity to the brevity of its age, see B.D. “Wine”. It would therefore be best to render “sweet wine,” made perhaps of a specially sweet small grape, cf. Genesis 49:11.

Jamieson Fawcett and Brown

Others mocking, [diachleuazontes, the strengthened form of the verb, is the true reading] said, These men are full of new wine , [ gleukous] - rather, 'sweet wine;' that is, not "new wine,"but wine preserved in its original state (which was done by various processes), and which was very intoxicating.

Bengel's Gnomon

New, lit., sweet wine—Gr. ykevKovs; [not necessarily new
wine, as Eng. Vers. Alf.]. Must or sweet wine of the present
or past year, or some other strong drink.

More later

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News Item5/16/16 4:44 PM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
s c wrote:
Scripture was misapplied.
Simon Kistemaker (admittedly a lightweight compared to you) says “The scoffers assert that the apostles are intoxicated because they drank too much wine”

Charles Eerdman writes To others the utterances seemed but the babbling of men who were "filled with new wine;" and thus the story ofthe cross has often been regarded as "foolishness" by the reputed wise men of the world.

William Barclay writes "Men speaking in tongues might well appear to be drunk to someone who did not know the phenomenon."

Matthew Henry writes, "Not that they were so absurd as to think that wine in the head would enable men to speak languages which they never learned but these, being native Jews, knew not, as the others did, that what was spoken was really the languages of other nations, and therefore took it to be gibberish and nonsense, such as drunkards, those fools in Israel, sometimes talk."

A T Robertson (not as knowledgeable in Greek as you) wrote:
on the words "with new wine". Sweet wine, but intoxicating. Sweet wine kept a year was very intoxicating .Tanked up with new wine, state of fulness.

Funny that none saw sarcasm.

s c wrote:
never disclosed gender
Agenderism!
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News Item5/16/16 3:22 PM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
Dorcas wrote:
..
Pease remember me at the throne of Grace
Have been praying dear sister. Sorry to see ya go so soon after my coming back. But I do understand.

The Lord be with you and yours and richly provide for all your needs, and especially those things of immediate concern.

Do let us know as and when the Lord answers prayer.

Blessings dear sister.

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News Item5/16/16 3:07 PM
Dorcas  Find all comments by Dorcas
Observer wrote:
Disappointed and confused am I friend.
Obligeth it me to point out that on this thread 2 women which vaunteth their Christ mindedness nevertheless contrary to Rom 14.1 did doubtfully dispute and not only scorneth those of weaker faith, but did much dispute and contend to exhaust the patience of the weaker brethren and then when it was pointed out to them that their vaunting was in vain because for they didst judge the brethren (contrary to Rom 14.4) they did much clamor (contrary to Prov 9.13) to be justified and didst continue without abating to be contentious (Prov 27.15) and wouldst not hearken to the admonitions or rebukes of the brethren but did fairly dissimulate holiness, sobriety and godly wisdom to lord it over God's heritage (contrary to 1 Peter 5.3). The brethren being exhausted wisheth for the desert (Prov 21.19) so that their sore trial may be over.
Witnesseth the brethren the same?
Ah... BM.. fare thee well.
Where at my vino is?.
Thanks to you, ladybug, US and Frank, and also B Mc.for your prayers and kind thoughts for me during this time.
I am taking my leave again as the nonsense about nothing has gotten out of hand on this forum.
Will check in now and again TLW.
Pease remember me at the throne of Gra
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News Item5/16/16 2:39 PM
s c | Oh  Find all comments by s c
And,for all the misjudgment,Observer has yet to admit that his Scripture was misapplied.
Oh yeah,s c has never disclosed gender.
I don't know you,Observer, and you don't know me. And that is preferable.
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News Item5/16/16 2:32 PM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
B. McCausland wrote:
.....
However, the way you are carrying on in the matter demands separation. Sincerety is part of God's very nature, mockery does not pertain.
Considering your tactic unworthy of any Christian commnunication, this obliges
With regret.
Disappointed and confused am I friend.

Obligeth it me to point out that on this thread 2 women which vaunteth their Christ mindedness nevertheless contrary to Rom 14.1 did doubtfully dispute and not only scorneth those of weaker faith, but did much dispute and contend to exhaust the patience of the weaker brethren and then when it was pointed out to them that their vaunting was in vain because for they didst judge the brethren (contrary to Rom 14.4) they did much clamor (contrary to Prov 9.13) to be justified and didst continue without abating to be contentious (Prov 27.15) and wouldst not hearken to the admonitions or rebukes of the brethren but did fairly dissimulate holiness, sobriety and godly wisdom to lord it over God's heritage (contrary to 1 Peter 5.3). The brethren being exhausted wisheth for the desert (Prov 21.19) so that their sore trial may be over.

Witnesseth the brethren the same?

Ah... BM.. fare thee well.

Where at my vino is?.

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News Item5/16/16 1:01 PM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
Observer wrote:
What an excellent example you are. Thank you BM.
Friend, it is not my practice to go into a huff with posters because of personal offence or existing disagreement. Such policy reveals childlish behaviour and not spiritual character. Bona fide is part of the new nature a child of God receives.
However, the way you are carrying on in the matter demands separation. Sincerety is part of God's very nature, mockery does not pertain.
Considering your tactic unworthy of any Christian commnunication, this obliges
With regret.
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News Item5/16/16 12:52 PM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
B. McCausland wrote:
"He that hates dissembles with his lips, and lays up deceit within him;
When he speaks fair, believe him not: for there are seven abominations in his heart"
Pro 26:24-25
"be ye .. harmless as doves"
What an excellent example you are. Thank you BM.
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News Item5/16/16 12:51 PM
pennelpe  Find all comments by pennelpe
https://prohibition.osu.edu/anti-saloon-league/dry

"The drys thought it ridiculous that an upstanding, tax-paying woman was kept from the ballot box while male bums could vote"

the nanny state started with prohibition.

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News Item5/16/16 12:48 PM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
"He that hates dissembles with his lips, and lays up deceit within him;
When he speaks fair, believe him not: for there are seven abominations in his heart"
Pro 26:24-25

"be ye .. harmless as doves"

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News Item5/16/16 12:41 PM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
B. McCausland wrote:
"let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay:
for whatsoever is more than these comes of evil"
Perhaps neither dissimulation, nor sarcasm do square with this text
Yea, yea.
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