T D Jakes: Our 'Greatest Hope' Is In Corporations?
Megachurch pastor Bishop T.D. Jakes of The Potter's House in Dallas, Texas, charged Wednesday that it's corporations and not elected officials that represent "the greatest hope" in effecting change and development in underserved communities across America. He said, however, that they need to "add a moral component to money" to make it happen.
"We need corporations to add a moral component to money," said Jakes, to a group of pastors and Christian leaders at the Reconciled Church Summit on Wednesday. The movement was launched in response to national protests against the killings by police of black men in Ferguson, Missouri, and New York, by Bishop Harry Jackson, senior pastor of Hope Christian Church in Beltsville, Maryland, televangelist James Robison, and Jakes in January....
Kindly read 1Peter 1:3-4, Galatians 1:3-5 and Hebrew 12:22-24 â€¦
1Pe 1:3-4 ESV â€ś3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 to an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, kept in heaven for you,â€ť
Galatians 1:3-5 RV â€ś3 Grace to you and peace from God the Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ, 4 who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us out of this present evil world, according to the will of our God and Father: 5 to whom be the glory forever and ever. Amen.â€ť
However, the saved ones, while still on earth, they are belonging to the following Divine and Magnificent Heavenly community:
Hebrews 12:22-24 ESV â€ś22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, 23 and to the assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God, the judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, 24 and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.â€ť
I am trying to get your attention. So, I butted in where I could since there's no issue posted that is relative to this.
Do you see what I see? Boy, I wish others could see where government mandates are leading us and how our freedoms are being eroded. What is you view on Vaccinating the nation. Or "Innocculating" the world? This man is correct. He should run for president. But we know what would happen. Here's something you've probably already seen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgGnBCDfCLM It is not "Report from Iron Mountain."
I'll Still Eternally Say So: I have tried to track down your posts re ZIONISM, the ROTHCHILDS, etc.
How can we get Christians who support ZIONISM to see that it is not necessarily a Jewish organization? How can we get them to see that Jews are terrified of what ZIONISTS linked with the ROTHCHILDS are doing to peoples around the globe and their aims?
I have been labeled anti-Semitic because Christians don't know that you don't have to be a Jew to be a Zionist.
I came across a video you've probably seen already. This speaker makes is so clear I hope it strengthens all hearers.
wrote: Listen True Holy Bible Saints: T.D. JAKES, Like Many So~Called Pentecostal~"Charismatic" ILLUMINATI~MONIED/BACKED Mega~Church Sell~Out Televangelists & Preachers, Who Are Bought & Paid~For NEW~WORLD~ORDER~"RELIGIOUS"~HARLOTS/WHORES~~via THE ROTH$CHILD$~BANK$TER~GANG$TER'S~BILLION$ (As EXPOSED By BR. JOHN TODD In THE 1970s) Such As PAT ROBERTSON, CHUCK SMITH, Yea Even *JERRY FALWELL*; Should Come As NO SURPRISE To TRUE HOLY BIBLE BELIEVERS/SAINTS OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST OF NAZARETH IN ISRAEL !
The HERESY Known As "ONENESS" Is Just The Merging &~Or Union Of TWO (2) OLD 2nd~CENTURY HERESIES Known As #1.SABELLIANISM (Which Basically Taught There Are Three  "Offices" & NOT THREE  SEPARATE~BUT~UNITED *PERSONS* [DISTINCT ENTITIES] IN THE GODHEAD) & #2.UNITARIANISM OR Simply Called: ***SABELLIO~UNITARIANISM*** !; Which Basically DENIES THE BIBLICAL, HISTORIC & ORTHODOX THEOLOGICAL VIEW OF THE GODHEAD; KNOWN AS THE HOLY~"TRIAD", "TRIUNITY" &~OR *TRINITY*; FOUND IN THE TRUE HOLY BIBLE: "FOR THERE ARE THREE THAT BEAR RECORD IN HEAVEN, THE FATHER, THE WORD, AND THE HOLY GHOST: AND THESE THREE ARE ONE."~I JOHN 5:7
***I'm Not At All Surprised 'JE[W]SUIT(IC)'-"jim lincoln" Said Of THE DEVIL'S ***ILLUMINATI***: "the Illuminati [is] great!".***
UPS, I appreciated your first comment to Penny about corporations, and as far as the Supreme Court is way more than a piece of paper, they are actual people! [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC]]]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC (Citizens United v. FEC)[/URL]. I'm surprised SCOTUS didn't give them the right to vote. But, yeah, I really, really like corporations, especially those that pay dividends.
Tony! the Illumini were great!!!
Wikipedia wrote: The Illuminati (plural of Latin illuminatus, "enlightened") is a name given to several groups, both real and fictitious. Historically, the name refers to the Bavarian Illuminati, an Enlightenment-era secret society founded on May 1, 1776. The society's goals were to oppose superstition, obscurantism, religious influence over public life and abuses of state power. "The order of the day," they wrote in their general statutes, "is to put an end to the machinations of the purveyors of injustice, to control them without dominating them." The Illuminatiâ€”along with Freemasonry and other secret societiesâ€”were outlawed through Edict, by the Bavarian ruler, Charles Theodore, with the encouragement of the Roman Catholic Church, in 1784, 1785, 1787 and 1790...
"In many ways, they have it much better than we do. They live life. We, on the other hand, live in a world of sterile, square boxes. We live in a box, work in a box and drive a box. In the evenings we sit and stare at a box till we fall asleepâ€”then wake up and do it all over again.
"So what do we do? We do our damnedest to try to convince them to want to be like us. We want them to become a "developed" country. Why? So we can sell them all our crap. And in doing so, we ruin them."
All in the name of Jesus.
And I do have to it add, that if they don't submit their resources when/if demanded, then they'll just just be murdered.
SteveR wrote: Jakes is a 'Oneness Pentecostal,'...Oneness Pentecostals deny the tradiitional understanding of the Trinity.
Listen True Holy Bible Saints: T.D. JAKES, Like Many So~Called Pentecostal~"Charismatic" ILLUMINATI~MONIED/BACKED Mega~Church Sell~Out Televangelists & Preachers, Who Are Bought & Paid~For NEW~WORLD~ORDER~"RELIGIOUS"~HARLOTS/WHORES~~via THE ROTH$CHILD$~BANK$TER~GANG$TER'S~BILLION$ (As EXPOSED By BR. JOHN TODD In THE 1970s) Such As PAT ROBERTSON, CHUCK SMITH, Yea Even *JERRY FALWELL*; Should Come As NO SURPRISE To TRUE HOLY BIBLE BELIEVERS/SAINTS OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST OF NAZARETH IN ISRAEL !
The HERESY Known As "ONENESS" Is Just The Merging &~Or Union Of TWO (2) OLD 2nd~CENTURY HERESIES Known As
#1.SABELLIANISM (Which Basically Taught There Are Three  "Offices" & NOT THREE  SEPARATE~BUT~UNITED *PERSONS* [DISTINCT ENTITIES] IN THE GODHEAD)
OR Simply Called:
Which Basically DENIES THE BIBLICAL, HISTORIC & ORTHODOX THEOLOGICAL VIEW OF THE GODHEAD; KNOWN AS THE HOLY~"TRIAD", "TRIUNITY" &~OR *TRINITY*; FOUND IN THE TRUE HOLY BIBLE:
"FOR THERE ARE THREE THAT BEAR RECORD IN HEAVEN, THE FATHER, THE WORD, AND THE HOLY GHOST: AND THESE THREE ARE ONE."~I JOHN 5:7
pennnned wrote: ..been happening since at least the railroad days. but I'm off. Good day!
thanks for sharing your thoughts on the matter. God bless you as you serve Him.
May we say with John Newton of our Savior
His Name yields the richest perfume, And sweeter than music His voice; His presence disperses my gloom, And makes all within me rejoice. I should, were He always thus nigh, Have nothing to wish or to fear; No mortal as happy as I, My summer would last all the year.
Content with beholding His face, My all to His pleasure resigned, No changes of season or place Would make any change in my mind: While blessed with a sense of His love, A palace a toy would appear; All prisons would palaces prove, If Jesus would dwell with me there.
dear brother UN, I'll let you have the last word on this, but just to clarify. I believe that corporatism is opposed to free market. I also believe corporatism and communism hold hands. A simple look at the definition of fascism would show a merging of state and corporation. you see this when the head of the major gm producer then moves into gov positions and shields the company from lawsuits or from disclosure of their activities or when they create dhs ending indvl rhgts, then some idiotic guy is put on the plane, and burns his underwear and that head of state then comes on tv to say we must now have naked scans of our body.... and low and behold we find he's invested in those very machines... they write the laws and write their own checks. been happening since at least the railroad days. but I'm off. Good day!
I would like to address a statement made by dear sister pennned.
She can be against corporations all she wants, but if it was not for corporations like IBM, Intel, AMD, Apple, Microsoft, etc. we would not be having this conversation.
She is technically correct, a corporation is simply a legal document. But legal documents don't create jobs, pay taxes, pay shareholders, PEOPLE do. If you sued the corporation a legal document would not be on the stand, a PERSON would. Becoming a corporation allows the entrepreneur (PEOPLE) to put his or her capital at risk to put forth a good or service they trust will be mutually beneficial to PEOPLE who buy. They have no guarantee that what they are selling will succeed, and many times it does not. Thus a corporation gives them legal protection against personal assets. Most corporations are not the big ones like previously mentioned but s corps, the mom and pop store or farm or service, PEOPLE like you and me trying to make a living.
Also, when disasters happen, like Nepal or Haiti, it is not a legal document that sends millions in aide it is PEOPLE in the corporation.
Corporate taxes are paid by PEOPLE not a piece of paper, whether it is a shareholder, employee, or consumer.
s c wrote: Our greatest hope,TD,is in Christ. period.
This the correct idea, something that Mr. Jakes would never think of.
Ah, Penny, why are companies looked upon so fondly, because they are easy to shakedown,
wrote: Basically, what they do is threaten people or companies with boycotts or news media coverage, then, the company often offers to pay them off, or donate to their cause.
For example, Jesse Jackson approached Toyota with the idea that they need more minority inclusion. Toyota was afraid if they didn't play along they would be labeled as racist, so they met with Jackson and worked out a deal, offering contracts to minorities and donating huge sums of money to Rainbow Coalition.
A bigger story might be the one where Jackson threaten a boycott on Anheuser Busch, who then offered his son an Anheuser Busch distributorship, which they happily accepted.
There are a lot of these stories online. Just do a search on it and you will find dozens.
excerpt from, [URL=https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080711065149AAIzpcz]]]https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080711065149AAIzpcz(How do Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton make money off keeping the problems of people at the forefront)[/URL]
I doubt that Jakes ever worked for a corporation. I worked for a corporation which would lay off workers quarterly in order to appease the stockholders on Wall Street and the upper management would receive bonuses in the millions of dollars. I left the corporate world and will never work for one again.
Jakes is a 'Oneness Pentecostal,' and not a very good one at that. These comments sound more like Black Liberation theology, than Oneness doctrine.
fyi--Oneness Pentecostals deny the tradiitional understanding of the Trinity. They believe there is one indivisible God with no distinction of persons with Christ a manifestation of God but not part of the Godhead
T.D. Jakes, doesn't seem to realize a corporation has to make a profit to continue to exist, q.v., [URL=http://businessethicsblog.com/2015/01/21/what-is-the-true-purpose-of-corporations/]]]What is the true purpose of corporations?[/URL]. If a Corporation doesn't keep track of the bottom line, they aren't going to be able to any of the "fun" tings that T.D. Jakes wants them to do.