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A museum of biblical proportions
Amid snow flurries in the nation’s capital, construction on the world’s first museum devoted solely to the Bible ramped up Thursday as demolition began on the site near Capitol Hill.

“It’s an exciting day for us,” said Steve Green, president of the craft store chain Hobby Lobby, who birthed the idea for the museum. “It’s been a dream, and it’s becoming a reality.”

The Museum of the Bible is a $400 million project scheduled for completion in 2017 and will feature the Green Collection, one of the world’s largest private compilations of biblical texts and artifacts. On Thursday, organizers unveiled floor designs and electronic renderings of the building, which will include five permanent floor exhibits focused on the impact, narrative, and history of the Bible, long-term international libraries, and long-term international museum galleries. ...


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Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Gentlemen, your comments on what should be called "Resurrection Sunday," etc. was interesting. Oh, ran across this article on the museum, [URL=http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/digger/wp/2015/02/12/even-non-believers-may-want-to-visit-the-400-million-museum-of-the-bible/]]]Even non-believers may want to visit the $400 million Museum of the Bible[/URL]. It's an informative read.
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News Item3/3/15 4:47 PM
s c | Oh  Find all comments by s c
Yes,John,tradition.
What you say is very true and very divisive. Family members who claim to be Christian will disown you if you reject man made holy days.
My concern is standing for the truth. If we are about the truth as Christians,we cannot go along with tradition and at the same time tell nonbelievers that we care about what the Bible says. They are always smart enough to say where is "such and such in the Bible?" Even nonbelievers can "celebrate" days for the sake of feeling good. What's in it for them? What's in it for us? Do too many government employees really care about President's day or Easter or the like aside from the perks (i.e. day off,paid vacation,party time,feasts,etc.)?
And for those Christians who say that it's a special day to worship the Lord. I have to ask. Which day is not a day to worship the Lord?
Oliver Cromwell,I'll look it up.
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News Item3/3/15 4:10 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
s c wrote:
If we absolutely know that there is nowhere in the NT showing us that the Apostles or church celebrated "easter" or an annual resurrection day(whatever you want to call it), why do we become "catholic" and submit to the RC church in its observance? What a coincidence.
sc, I don't have "Easter" whatever it means, as it is not biblical. But your point will just bounce off the heads of those who do things without really thinking about what they're doing. Something to do with "tradition", I think. The same thing happens at Christmass time. Very few will even think about what it is they do or why. It is the sad state of many churches that they no longer go by "sola scriptura" but also have the traditions of the elders. Ought to read more Oliver Cromwell.
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News Item3/3/15 4:03 PM
s c | Oh  Find all comments by s c
It's really not that difficult. Matthew 15:19
If we absolutely know that there is nowhere in the NT showing us that the Apostles or church celebrated "easter" or an annual resurrection day(whatever you want to call it), why do we become "catholic" and submit to the RC church in its observance? What a coincidence.
None who insist on observing this are ignorant/naive to this fact. Wouldn't one want to be careful not to add to the Bible in this regard? The interpretation of the Bible is not subjective and we ought not to do things which are a stumbling block or makes the Word of God of none effect no matter how fuzzy feeling or sentimental we are.
I use "the first day of the week" ,Michael,not"sunday".
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News Item3/3/15 11:21 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Michael Hranek wrote:
Saint John UK Wales
Imho there is an enormous difference between those who love the KJV and use it as their translation of choice (in conscience before God) and the KJV-Onlyist and their cult-like mentality
I greatly appreciate Pastor Sean Harris' sermon:
[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=101914200260]]]Various Translations of the Word of God[/URL]
(I encourage anyone interested to watch the video to be able to see the examples Pastor Harris refers to)

(I appreciate him very much) For the honesty in which if deals with various translations of the Bible and paraphrases, and the relevant information he brings to the matter.
Thank you Saint Michael, I have downloaded the audio and will have a listen when time permits.
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News Item3/3/15 8:37 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
John UK wrote:
sc, there is such a thing as a KJV-Only cult, or mentality. Plenty of books have been written, there are pastors of churches who teach the KJV is a perfect translation. Some of them even believe the KJV is perfect in English while the original mss are faulty. These men believe the translation was "inspired by God". They will go to great lengths to "prove" that the word Easter in Acts 12:4 is correctly translated.
Can I take it that you have read some of these men? And that it is from your reading such that you have arrived at this position?
Now I personally love any who believe in the inerrancy of scripture, and I think it is highly needful in these apostate days. We need to be able to trust the Bible more than ever, as we approach the last chapter in history. But let us not do so with blinkers on.
I commend to you the translators of the KJV. And I commend to you their own words, in the TTTR document, which every Bible student ought to read, as it explains their translation, and removes any false notion of perfection, besides the translational constraints of King James.
Think about it.
Why John UK, I like that Oh, [URL=http://www.kjv-only.com/acts12_4.html]]]http://www.kjv-only.com/acts12_4.html (Acts 12:4 - Passover and Easter)[/URL]
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News Item3/3/15 8:26 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
John UK wrote:
sc, there is such a thing as a KJV-Only cult, or mentality.
Saint John UK Wales
Imho there is an enormous difference between those who love the KJV and use it as their translation of choice (in conscience before God) and the KJV-Onlyist and their cult-like mentality

I greatly appreciate Pastor Sean Harris' sermon:
[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=101914200260]]]Various Translations of the Word of God[/URL]
(I encourage anyone interested to watch the video to be able to see the examples Pastor Harris refers to)

(I appreciate him very much) For the honesty in which if deals with various translations of the Bible and paraphrases, and the relevant information he brings to the matter

Anyone interested can check out their public statement of their convictions (Imho good ones)

http://www.bbcfnc.org/distinctives.php

BTW
s c
As to the differences of Easter and Passover if we witness to anyone we need to make clear and explain just what we are taling about
Passover is of course historically the night God passed over Israel
Our Lord Jesus Christ did not rise from the dead on Passover, rather on Resurrcction Sunday (oops Sunday has Pagan meanings too)

Do the best you can in all this

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News Item3/3/15 4:54 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
s c wrote:
"Easter" is correct in the KJV Bible and it does refer to a type of resurrection...that of Tammuz not Christ.
sc, there is such a thing as a KJV-Only cult, or mentality. Plenty of books have been written, there are pastors of churches who teach the KJV is a perfect translation. Some of them even believe the KJV is perfect in English while the original mss are faulty. These men believe the translation was "inspired by God". They will go to great lengths to "prove" that the word Easter in Acts 12:4 is correctly translated.

Can I take it that you have read some of these men? And that it is from your reading such that you have arrived at this position?

Now I personally love any who believe in the inerrancy of scripture, and I think it is highly needful in these apostate days. We need to be able to trust the Bible more than ever, as we approach the last chapter in history. But let us not do so with blinkers on.

I commend to you the translators of the KJV. And I commend to you their own words, in the TTTR document, which every Bible student ought to read, as it explains their translation, and removes any false notion of perfection, besides the translational constraints of King James.

Think about it.

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News Item3/2/15 8:10 PM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
s c wrote:
This info is easy enough to find if one is not hard headed and wise in their own eyes.
And,I would love to know where the pagans got the name "Easter" if not from its babylonian celebration. Please explain that.
Who cares where the pagans got the word Easter from. God authored the bible and He used the Greek word "pascha" 29 times in the NT including in Acts 12:4. For you to insist it means a pagan Babylonian celebration is to thumb your nose at what God inspired to be written.

And for what it's worth, the days of unleavened bread and the first Passover in Egypt was not a resurrection feast but a feast of sacrifice..... a prefigure of the Lord's table and His sacrifice on Calvary. So your assertion that Acts 12:4 refers to the resurrection of Tammuz is absurd.

You are the one who is hardheaded but you're too hardheaded to recognize it. Pity.

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News Item3/2/15 5:20 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
s c wrote:
Pennned,if you celebrate the pagan Easter...
sc, first of all not all scholars agree with your view of Easter and Christianity.

http://tinyurl.com/lmh4886

http://www.easterau.com/

http://tinyurl.com/mzzjcsy

http://tinyurl.com/74pqohj

who is to say those who hold to the view you espouse are right and they are wrong? I would encourage you to read from those sites, not saying you must change your mind, just that not all scholars hold your view.

secondly, please notice pennned words carefully, she clearly stated she would celebrate Christ's Resurrection, give glory to God for her salvation and thank Him for passing over her sins because of the finished work of Christ. Not sure why you would have a problem with that. A pagan counterfeit holiday does not negate the place of the resurrection in the lives of believers. (I Corinthians 15:17-20; Romans 6:4,5)

She said nothing of eggs, lent, bunnies, etc. You will search in vain for any comments from anybody encouraging the celebration of Easter as you describe it. (if you can find one I will retract that comment) Pennned has posted here long enough for all of us to know she loves the Lord and doesn't have any desire to honor pagan traditions or gods.

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News Item3/2/15 4:16 PM
s c | Oh  Find all comments by s c
Pennned,if you celebrate the pagan Easter,then you do so using a name of the babylonian goddess. "Easter" is correct in the KJV Bible and it does refer to a type of resurrection...that of Tammuz not Christ.Why do you think the heathens wept for Tammuz for 40 days,which is conveniently twisted into lent or lint,whichever,they both refer to something that should be removed. This info is easy enough to find if one is not hard headed and wise in their own eyes.
And,I would love to know where the pagans got the name "Easter" if not from its babylonian celebration. Please explain that. We certainly know that they didn't lift it from the Bible and they don't celebrate Christ.
I suppose if it was the word "marriage" that was in dispute that the die hard conservatives would be defending it to death but as it is only a corrupted "celebration" of Christ and it does appeal to our fleshly nature and pride,we can ignore it.
After all,we have to find some common ground with the RC church.Bunnies don't lay eggs btw and pretending that they're "resurrection" eggs doesn't sanctify them either.
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News Item2/26/15 4:46 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Amusing John of UK...
What's even more amusing is if you were to clean up the blemishes out of the KJV, you'd have no excuse for regarding it with contempt.

Mind you, you've got no excuse anyway.

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News Item2/26/15 3:01 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
John UK wrote:
Well Jim, that's a good little bit of nonsense you've come out with.
Besides which, your issue isn't so much with the English, as with the underlying greek text, of which your favourite is the Westcott and Hort and subsequent texts used in most of the modern versions.
Amusing John of UK, You know it isn't about [URL=http://www.bible-researcher.com/kutilek1.html]]]Westcott & Hort vs. Textus Receptus: Which is Superior?[/URL] If you would use the NKJV, then you would be following the Textus Receptus much more closely,
Drs. Ankerberg & Weldon wrote:
In fact, the NKJV followed the Greek text of the Textus Receptus throughout the New Testament and "anywhere the NKJV appears to differ from the Greek text used by the KJV translators, it is because it has corrected the KJV departures from the Textus Receptus. Consequently, the NKJV adheres more closely to the Textus Receptus than does its predecessor the KJV".
from [URL=http://www.jashow.org/wiki/index.php?title=The_Conflict_Over_Different_Bible_Versions/Part_6]]]The Conflict Over Different Bible Versions - Part 6[/URL]. You should be pushing for [URL=http://www.kj21.com/]]]The 21st Century King James Version of the Holy Bible (KJ21®)[/URL]. It slavishly follo
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News Item2/25/15 5:53 PM
pennnned  Find all comments by pennnned
s c wrote:
a side note: If "Easter" was in reference to the Resurrection of Christ,
that's precisely what the KJV does.

Since we see that the word Easter is used for the Passover/Resurrection, I will be sure to celebrate Christ's Resurrection, even set a day aside especially to give God the glory for my salvation, not earned, and call it Passover (He passed over my sins- the atonement, He rose from the dead), just as the Hebrews remembered every year the first Passover. Amen!

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News Item2/25/15 4:59 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Jim Lincoln wrote:
If a Bible isn't in good contemporary English, it needs to be put away and put down.
Well Jim, that's a good little bit of nonsense you've come out with.

Besides which, your issue isn't so much with the English, as with the underlying greek text, of which your favourite is the Westcott and Hort and subsequent texts used in most of the modern versions.

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News Item2/25/15 2:49 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
s c

John UK, what a perfect example of why,

[URL=http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/kjvo.htm]]]Dear KJV Only Advocate:[/URL]

'Do not give them a loaf of bread, covered with an inedible, impenetrable crust, fossilized by three and a half centuries. Give them the Word of God as fresh and warm and clear as the Holy Spirit gave it to the authors of the Bible. . . . For any preacher or theologian who loves God's Word to allow that Word to go on being misunderstood because of the veneration of an archaic, not-understood version of four centuries ago is inexcusable, and almost unconscionable'---Edward H. Palmer

If a Bible isn't in good contemporary English, it needs to be put away and put down. The Englishmen who made the KJV realized that,

1 Corinthians 14:9
So also you, unless you utter by the tongue speech that is clear, how will it be known what is spoken? For you will be speaking into the air.
1 Corintians 14:11 If then I do not know the meaning of the language, I shall be to the one who speaks a barbarian, and the one who speaks will be a barbarian to me. ---[URL=http://www.lockman.org/nasb/nasbcmp.php]]]NASB[/URL]

I believe these are the very verses that the translators quoted in the KJV preface on why they updated earlier Bible versions.

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News Item2/23/15 4:32 PM
s c | Oh  Find all comments by s c
Perhaps the difficulty is that it is "all Greek to us".
This link offers up a reasonable answer-
http://rcg.org/books/ttooe.html

a side note: If "Easter" was in reference to the Resurrection of Christ,we are,sorely,left without any clarity and certainly not a precedence for its observation.
And it is not conceivable that Easter was a Christian observance before the civil war (except for the Catholics who took this pagan holy day).
To their credit,the pagans never lift Christian terms and objects to make their celebrations more palatable.
The Christians who follow after catholic observations,could learn from their (the heathen's) "egg-sample".

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News Item2/23/15 5:41 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
from the internet wrote:
BTW Lancelot Andrewes mastered Latin, Greek, and Hebrew becoming fluent in fifteen modern European languages as well as Aramaic, Syriac, and Arabic, a man who still had time to pray for 5 hours each day. Thankfully we still have access to his sermons, so as he translated EASTER in Acts 12, then what did he always mean by 'EASTER'? Chocie eggs and bowing the knees to Ishtar?
Wycliffe had it right in his 1395 Bible.

Acts 12:3-4

And he siy that it pleside to Jewis, and keste to take also Petre; and the daies of therf looues weren. And whanne he hadde cauyte Petre, he sente hym in to prisoun; and bitook to foure quaternyouns of knyytis, to kepe hym, and wolde aftir pask bringe hym forth to the puple.

Seeing his execution of Christians was pleasing the Jews, he proceeded to take Peter also, but would not execute him until after the Jews had finished their celebrations.

This fits the sequence of events, it fits logic, but more importantly it fits the translation, which is what a Bible is supposed to be. Passover was a word Tyndale invented many years later. Wycliffe retained the original greek. And Easter is nowhere to be found, and would make no sense anyway, in the context of the passage.

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News Item2/22/15 6:32 PM
from the internet  Find all comments by from the internet
not from the internet wrote:
the only problem is the word is translated passover in I Corinthians 5:7
Yes I know, so why do you think Andrewes made a mistake and what did he mean by 'Easter' and why use it just here? He was the general editor of the KJV translation, so he was no fool.

'Christ our passover' is an obvious meaning in the context, but the word Passover in Acts 12. 4 is in need of clarity

BTW Lancelot Andrewes mastered Latin, Greek, and Hebrew becoming fluent in fifteen modern European languages as well as Aramaic, Syriac, and Arabic, a man who still had time to pray for 5 hours each day. Thankfully we still have access to his sermons, so as he translated EASTER in Acts 12, then what did he always mean by 'EASTER'? Chocie eggs and bowing the knees to Ishtar?

See his sermon:

SERMONS OF THE RESURRECTION
PREACHED UPON EASTER-DAY, 1618.

http://anglicanhistory.org/lact/andrewes/v2/easter1618.html

Then see the article below, which gives food for thought, unless we think Andrewes did have a senior moment

http://www.brandplucked.webs.com/easterreplenish.htm

Passover might be the best translation when we understand Christ is our Passover, but the above does give some idea of what believers knew Easter to mean.

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News Item2/22/15 5:29 PM
not from the internet  Find all comments by not from the internet
from the internet wrote:
The King James is accurate as it uses the word “Passover” before the death and resurrection of Christ and then “Easter” the only time the word occurs in the book of Acts after His resurrection.
the only problem is the word is translated passover in I Corinthians 5:7
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