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FRONT PAGE  |  6/20/2021
FRIDAY, NOV 21, 2014  |  20 comments
SWAT team tasers, pepper-sprays homeschoolers

A Missouri homeschooling family is suing a sheriff and another officer who forcibly entered their home without a warrant, Tasered the father, pepper-sprayed the mother and put their children in the custody of social service workers.

A court already has ruled that the actions of Sheriff Darren White and Capt. David Glidden of Nodaway County, Missouri, violated the U.S. Constitution, resulting in the dismissal of charges of child endangerment and resisting arrest against the couple, Jason and Laura Hagan, of New Hampton.

The lawsuit, which seeks compensatory damages, punitive damages and attorneys costs and fees, was brought on behalf of the couple by the Home School Legal Defense Association, the world’s leading advocate for homeschooling families. ...


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News Item11/25/14 10:58 AM
s c | Oh  Find all comments by s c
They (SWAT team) need to go to Ferguson...or maybe our military could do something of service and go there. It seems to me that the greatest territory to deal with terrorism is in our own back yards.
I just wonder if people will ever figure out who the true enemy is. Sharpton, Obama and others who perpetuate this lie of "race" should be ashamed. If they couldn't identify themselves by some physical trait, what would they do then? Imagine what it would be like for the Jewish people in America or in other countries to behave similarly.
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News Item11/25/14 7:11 AM
Elmer  Find all comments by Elmer
Further, foundational Romans 13 Cult teaching requires a Theocracy.
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News Item11/25/14 5:38 AM
Elmer K. Yoder | Berlin, Ohio  Find all comments by Elmer K. Yoder
From another post that may help you with your problem:

"You know I was pondering this in relation to the Romans 13 Cult and their hobby doctrine. Assuming their hobby doctrine is what they claim, then their leaders would have to enforce the commandments of God and punish all those who disobey and doeth evil. And those who doeth evil, which isn't limited to the shedding of blood, are to be killed. So anyone, be they believers or unbelievers, women or children, are to be put to death for disobeying any commandment of God. Further, unbelievers are to be killed for simply not believing as they are in a constant state of doing evil. And come to think of it, even if the hobby doctrine applies to obeying the commandments of man, like the grievous millions of so-called laws, then the same punishment of death applies. Even not knowing all the so-called laws is reason enough for death! Oh dear!! Such burdens."

[URL=http://www.cai.org/bible-studies/1050-new-testament-commands]]]1050 NT Commandments[/URL]

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News Item11/24/14 7:10 AM
Elmer  Find all comments by Elmer
Civil? What you mean by civil? Anarchy? What you mean by anarchy?

Adios amigo wrote:
Don't torture yourself to stay in such a terrible place. Don't forget to tell the people at the airport you want a one way ticket to any place they practice anarchy. You might try the moon, then you won't have to worry about the law of gravity. Civil laws are such silly things, Paul used them, Jesus obeyed them, but then again they didn't enjoy your special insight. Adios Amigo
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News Item11/24/14 6:41 AM
Adios amigo  Find all comments by Adios amigo
Elmer K. Yoder wrote:
Or maybe you should do all the believers a favor and find a different country in which to live where you can have your false god and force all your commandments of men on the people. The believers just want to live free and in peace. The US is a theocracy with Satan as god and unbelievers serving him by means of violence. No one is forcing you to stay in this land. China or Cuba would suit you better. The "powers that be" is not the State. That's your opinion and abuse of scripture in order to justify setting up a false god and forcing the commandments of men upon the people.
Don't torture yourself to stay in such a terrible place. Don't forget to tell the people at the airport you want a one way ticket to any place they practice anarchy. You might try the moon, then you won't have to worry about the law of gravity. Civil laws are such silly things, Paul used them, Jesus obeyed them, but then again they didn't enjoy your special insight. Adios Amigo
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News Item11/24/14 6:27 AM
Elmer | Berlin  Find all comments by Elmer
[URL=http://georgegordon.org/levitical.html]]]Levitical priesthood[/URL]
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News Item11/24/14 5:17 AM
Elmer K. Yoder | Amish Paradise  Find all comments by Elmer K. Yoder
Or maybe you should do all the believers a favor and find a different country in which to live where you can have your false god and force all your commandments of men on the people. The believers just want to live free and in peace. The US is a theocracy with Satan as god and unbelievers serving him by means of violence. No one is forcing you to stay in this land. China or Cuba would suit you better. The "powers that be" is not the State. That's your opinion and abuse of scripture in order to justify setting up a false god and forcing the commandments of men upon the people.

Adios amigo wrote:
Hey if you don't like our laws or constitution, do us all a favor and find a different country in which to live. There are no threocracies set up on this earth and the powers that be are ordained of God. No one forcing you stay here and live in misery, if you think it is unholy to be under the constitution then find a place where you don't have that restraint. No one is making you stay. It is abuses of the Constitution that are leading to government oppression. We have a system called the ballot box to deal with that issue that too many people ignore...
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News Item11/24/14 12:43 AM
Adios amigo  Find all comments by Adios amigo
Elmer K. Yoder wrote:
One reason why the predator may not have come back is due to the nature of the conversation, as the brother did not foolishly attempt to defend he and his family with man's so-called laws and the unholy constitution, ..
Hey if you don't like our laws or constitution, do us all a favor and find a different country in which to live. There are no threocracies set up on this earth and the powers that be are ordained of God. No one forcing you stay here and live in misery, if you think it is unholy to be under the constitution then find a place where you don't have that restraint. No one is making you stay. It is abuses of the Constitution that are leading to government oppression. We have a system called the ballot box to deal with that issue that too many people ignore. Just remember, without that awful constitution you wouldn't be posting here, just ask the people in China or Cuba. There won't be a perfect government until Isaiah 9:7 is fulfilled. Deal with it.
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News Item11/22/14 9:54 AM
SF from TX  Find all comments by SF from TX
Rephrase that: who they think is bo$$
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News Item11/22/14 9:48 AM
SF from TX  Find all comments by SF from TX
Ah yes cps. I've heard to many cps horror stories to know that they're not there for the wellbeing of the child but to show whose bo$$.
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News Item11/22/14 8:28 AM
Elmer K. Yoder | Amish Paradise  Find all comments by Elmer K. Yoder
One reason why the predator may not have come back is due to the nature of the conversation, as the brother did not foolishly attempt to defend he and his family with man's so-called laws and the unholy constitution, thereby being sucked into their game and their territory, but rather God's law and his commandments thus maintaining the proper jurisdiction belonging to God. The brother also did not accept the authority of the State and rightfully exposed the woman for her religious actions and the religious nature of the State. The woman did not know how to handle this because few will respond this way. Usually professed believers will accept the State Supremacists as saved, ministers of God who are merely violating the precious constitution as they see it. So why come back and deal with "mad" Jesus freak?

And/or, when the predator searched the property database of the children owned by the Statists, she came up with nothing because those children have not been registered with the State. Therefore, the State has no jurisdiction of the living souls created by Almighty God. Only when the mother "informant" gives her children over to another god does the State become "Father God." So the predator and those like her were most likely baffled, and could not proceed as usual.

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News Item11/22/14 2:09 AM
Elmer Yoder | Berlin, Ohio  Find all comments by Elmer Yoder
So after she continued to refuse to properly identify herself, she then threatened to call the sheriff on the brother for not cooperating. He then asked her why she threatened him and his family with violence. She just couldn't understand that. Violence? The conversation which followed pertained to her god the State and the religion of Statism versus Jesus and the true faith and who has authority over the children. She played the "I'm just doing my job" card like she wasn't responsible for stealing children and the evil her job requires. Though she did claim that some Jesus was her god, the gospel was presented to her and she was warned about the satanic religion she was involved with and the evil she does for the love of money. The brother wanted to keep talking and trying to help her, but she desired to leave. The sheriff was never called, but 2 suspicious vehicles were seen the next day driving slowly down the gravel road. To this day the child predator agent has not been back.
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News Item11/21/14 7:29 PM
Elmer K. Yoder | Amish Paradise  Find all comments by Elmer K. Yoder
Another act of terrorism. Where are all of "God's servants" in the military to protect us from those who hate our so-called freedom?

But anyhoo, most likely the children have had their status changed from being God-created living souls to State-created (false god) fictional persons via the voluntary birth registration, so the Statists have the right to check on their children and see they're being properly raised "in the nurture and admonition of the State."

I know a brother who had a child predator agent trespass into his land and into his presence in the name of a false god because someone didn't like that his children weren't being "schooled." Usually his gate is locked but at the time he had went down the road for but a moment and left the gate open and the predator agent drove right on in. The brother had seen the Chevy Impala with the State plates suspiciously in the area and had a weird feeling so he went back home. Sure enough went he got back the predator was there speaking with his wife at the door, the weaker vessel. He rushed to the door and of course the predator was all smiles and said who she was and why she was there.He immediately asked who called her and she refused to cooperate.He then demanded to see her drivers license and she refused to cooperate.cont.

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News Item11/21/14 5:00 PM
PursuitofTruth  Find all comments by PursuitofTruth
Wait, then there would be moral issues!
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News Item11/21/14 4:57 PM
PursuitofTruth  Find all comments by PursuitofTruth
This is outrageous! I hope this sherrif gets his pants sued off!
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News Item11/21/14 2:55 PM
SteveR | Mt Zion  Find all comments by SteveR
L. chartley wrote:
An example;
Moral standards are part of the authority rule of society in history,
From Wiki

"Mores (generally pronounced /?m?re?z/, and often /?m?ri?z/; from Latin m?r?s, [?mo?re?s], grammatically plural: "habit"; singular form: m?s) is a term introduced into English by William Graham Sumner (1840–1910), an early U.S. sociologist, to refer to norms that are more widely observed and have greater moral significance than others. Mores include an aversion for societal taboos, such as incest or pederasty.[1] Consequently, the values and mores of a society predicates legislation prohibiting their taboos.

Folkways, in sociology, are norms for routine or casual interaction. This includes ideas about appropriate greetings and proper dress in different situations.[1]

In short, mores "distinguish the difference between right and wrong, while folkways draw a line between right and rude".[1]

Both "mores" and "folkways" are terms coined by William Graham Sumner in 1906.[1]"

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News Item11/21/14 2:47 PM
L. chartley  Find all comments by L. chartley
Mike wrote:
Not arguing here, but would you mind clarifying something? How can an increase in authority rule be a breakdown of authority?
An example;
Moral standards are part of the authority rule of society in history, still is for some people.
Today the historic "natural" authority of morals is dismissed by Liberalism as unacceptable because man has his own ability to implement his own individual standards. Thus a moral code of practice within the group is replaced by a multifarious and diverse individualistic code which does not bring concord in the group.
But Liberalism itself has a hidden base of administration which is insidious and hostile to dissenters.

The breakdown of authority is where the authority (eg moral) is and has been established for centuries in society and now is decentralised to become less authoritive because of independent (self) autonomy.

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News Item11/21/14 2:21 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
L. chartley wrote:
Sounds like America is degenerating into a communist/1984 style of justice and administration by bureaucrats. Thus the American must say think and do only what he is told to by the "officials" in society. This is yet another break down of authority by Liberalism, whereby the Liberal mind set believes that the people cannot do the right thing therefore must be ruled with a "soft" iron bar. Obviously Democrat policy.
Not arguing here, but would you mind clarifying something? How can an increase in authority rule be a breakdown of authority?
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News Item11/21/14 7:05 AM
L. chartley  Find all comments by L. chartley
Sounds like America is degenerating into a communist/1984 style of justice and administration by bureaucrats. Thus the American must say think and do only what he is told to by the "officials" in society. This is yet another break down of authority by Liberalism, whereby the Liberal mind set believes that the people cannot do the right thing therefore must be ruled with a "soft" iron bar. Obviously Democrat policy.
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News Item11/21/14 4:50 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
It's always good to have a good advocate.

Last night we were discussing at meeting the wonderful advocacy of our Lord Jesus Christ, and his ongoing ministry in heaven before the Father. "And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father..." Jesus never lost a case yet, for all those who belong to him.

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