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Choice News MONDAY, NOV 17, 2014  |  53 comments  |  2 commentaries
Christian booted from National Cathedral speaks out

It was a bold move that had never been tried. Leaders of the Episcopal cathedral said sending prayers up to Allah from a Christian church would show the world that two religions at odds with each other for centuries could “approach the same God” as one body of believers.

The stage was set. The prayer rugs were neatly arranged facing Mecca. The lights shone down on the imam for his opening remarks. Not so fast.

Christine Weick, a 50-year-old Michigan woman with flowing blonde hair who lives out of her car, rose from the packed National Cathedral, the hall of halls in terms of religious prominence in America, and moved toward the front of the church. ...


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News Item11/25/14 6:15 AM
Fratello | North West UK  Find all comments by Fratello
Thanks be to God for brave Christine Weiss.
Christine, you are evidently a true sister in Christ. Be assured that you have countless thousands of brothers, sisters, mothers and fathers around the world who are grateful for this, your stand for righteousness and for your Saviour, Christ Jesus .
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News Item11/20/14 7:11 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Hi Tommie, you basically re-posted your original comment/link, which this whole conversation is basically about. Thought you would have responded instead.
My view on all of this is that no matter where she was, she spoke up. I can't remember if she referred to the Episcopal church as being Christian, and was wrong on that if so, but personally, I think it's good whenever anyone speaks up, no matter where they are. I don't know anything about her though and haven't watched any other videos yet.
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News Item11/20/14 6:22 AM
runethegoon | south of oklahoma  Find all comments by runethegoon
This woman intetuped those sweet Muslims prayers...They were probably praying that isis would come to America and heads would begin to roll. That shria law would be instituted as law of the land. I don't think that what the woman did was particularly offensive, she thought that the national cathedral is a house of worshipn but its not. Franklin Graham spoke out against the practice of christians holding ecumenical services of other faith groups in churches. The next time there is an event at the national cathedral for a national calamity will Mr Graham attend or speak?
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News Item11/20/14 5:08 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
SteveR wrote:
If you want to return evil for evil...
Not at all sure what you mean by that. What evil?

Now if you want to give up your right to bear arms to protect yourself and your family, that's up to you.

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News Item11/20/14 4:40 AM
Elmer K. Yoder | Berlin, Ohio  Find all comments by Elmer K. Yoder
How can one criminal false religion criminalize another criminal false religion?
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News Item11/20/14 3:38 AM
Tommie Scott | Las Vegas, NV 89183  Contact via emailFind all comments by Tommie Scott
Let me start by saying thank you SermonAudio for being the best website on the planet. Im here everyday after bible study & prayer and met my close friend Dr. E.A. Johnston here.

Well the lady who stood up for Jesus at the national cathdral, Christine, is my close friend and a genuine christian. A few months ago we were on Chicago Southside, the murder cap of the USA at 2am in mourning praying, and then off to ferguson we went. please view this:

Protester & My Friend Disrupts National Cathedral's First Muslim Prayer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok-_oUgNa1M&list=UUv6CeLiMdMhHQehmS9T_WFQ

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News Item11/19/14 7:06 PM
s c | Oh  Find all comments by s c
Robin Williams called the Episcopal church-"catholic lite-same rituals, half the guilt"
Wikipedia states that the Episcopal church is both catholic and protestant.
It seems that they pray to dead "saints" too. Don't they know that Christ is our Advocate/High Priest?
...maybe that's why they "him" hanging on their crosses.
Muslims praying to another god in an Episcopal church...where's the controversy?
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News Item11/19/14 6:00 PM
Ahem  Find all comments by Ahem
SteveR wrote:
Newsflash for ya John UK
Christians are the persecuted, not the persecutors. If you want to return evil for evil, there are plenty of other religions out there you can choose from.
So please dont use the Church as a cloak for that wickedness
What are you doing here persecuting Christians? Imitating your mother church?
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News Item11/19/14 5:41 PM
SteveR | Mt Zion  Find all comments by SteveR
John UK wrote:
SteveR, when you say "we", do you mean "we ourselves" or "our guv"?
We ourselves cannot criminalise anything.
The guv rightly criminalises what they perceive to be dangerous, either to the adherents or to the general public.
Now if Islam is dangerous to the general public in the UK, it is no different to declaring war on Naziism in the 2nd world war. Hitler designed to take over Europe and the rest of the world, and so do Muslims.
If you have been taken in with all the "peace man" nonsense from "moderate Muslims, you will have to wait until the big war on non-muslims, and maybe then you will see them for what they really are.
In the meantime, I reserve the right to not be treasonous to my guv, and accept their authority, thus obeying God.
Newsflash for ya John UK

Christians are the persecuted, not the persecutors. If you want to return evil for evil, there are plenty of other religions out there you can choose from.

So please dont use the Church as a cloak for that wickedness

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News Item11/19/14 4:30 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
SteveR wrote:
Should we criminalize other religions?
SteveR, when you say "we", do you mean "we ourselves" or "our guv"?

We ourselves cannot criminalise anything.

The guv rightly criminalises what they perceive to be dangerous, either to the adherents or to the general public.

Now if Islam is dangerous to the general public in the UK, it is no different to declaring war on Naziism in the 2nd world war. Hitler designed to take over Europe and the rest of the world, and so do Muslims.

If you have been taken in with all the "peace man" nonsense from "moderate Muslims, you will have to wait until the big war on non-muslims, and maybe then you will see them for what they really are.

In the meantime, I reserve the right to not be treasonous to my guv, and accept their authority, thus obeying God.

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News Item11/19/14 4:16 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
s c wrote:
I don't know the heart of this woman and I would think that she probably meant well. I am glad that she didn't say what she had intended to say- "...‘I serve a risen Savior, and Muhammad is dead.’ as she was pointing to a cross with "the figure of what was supposed to be Christ" on it. Was this a roman catholic church where the Muslims were comfortable praying to allah ? It's no wonder that they could pray there if that was the case
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Episcopal.

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News Item11/19/14 4:01 PM
s c | Oh  Find all comments by s c
I don't know the heart of this woman and I would think that she probably meant well. I am glad that she didn't say what she had intended to say- "...‘I serve a risen Savior, and Muhammad is dead.’ as she was pointing to a cross with "the figure of what was supposed to be Christ" on it. Was this a roman catholic church where the Muslims were comfortable praying to allah ? It's no wonder that they could pray there if that was the case. At any rate, "yes" our LORD is alive! Take his misrepresentation off of the cross already. The death without the resurrection makes it all meaningless.
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News Item11/19/14 4:00 PM
SteveR | Mt Zion  Find all comments by SteveR
Mike wrote:
Steve, there is also throughout Scripture Godly hostility toward false religion and false teaching. I would not think that even if they be peaceable, that it would matter.
Should we criminalize other religions? Should Moses have arrested Jethro instead of embrace him as his father in law?

Hey, Im not saying that Caesar doesnt have the authority to criminalize it, Im just surprised so called men of faith are so weak, they must throw their rivals in jail. It is a tactic of the wicked not the righteous

Daniel 6:4 Then the presidents and princes sought to find occasion against Daniel concerning the kingdom; but they could find none occasion nor fault; forasmuch as he was faithful, neither was there any error or fault found in him.

Daniel 6:5 Then said these men, We shall not find any occasion against this Daniel, except we find it against him concerning the law of his God.

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News Item11/19/14 4:00 PM
Ahem  Find all comments by Ahem
John UK wrote:
Not backtracking on Romans 13 are you Steve? Or have you reinvented it, so that you can disobey the guv while acknowledging its divine authority. Wow, makes my head spin.
He doesn't know whether he is coming or going. I know what my vote would be.
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News Item11/19/14 3:53 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
SteveR wrote:
Its a tactic of the wicked throughout Scripture to criminalize peaceful worship...and it doesnt surprise me you agree
Steve, there is also throughout Scripture Godly hostility toward false religion and false teaching. I would not think that even if they be peaceable, that it would matter.
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News Item11/19/14 3:50 PM
pennned  Find all comments by pennned
The scripture should be taught correctly and in context.

Women should not subjugate themselves to false teaching nor to Islamic imams in apostasy.

Subjugating women to evil is not the way to correct the evils of feminism, but rather just another technique of the devil of confusion.

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News Item11/19/14 3:46 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
carl haydock wrote:
It seems frank has twisted my words. Shame on you
Actually carl, I took it the same way as Frank did, so maybe your expression was not quite right.
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News Item11/19/14 3:44 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
carl haydock wrote:
Regardless of her theology or demonination,what she did was right. Weak men as usual. An iman praying in a church?? Let a christian pray to christ in a mosque. Mmm its never going to happen.
Hey Carl, you used the expression "regardless" of her theology which I took to mean it didn't matter. Anyway, I also said that you probably misspoke. I do that all the time, so I was careful to suggest that. But, to be honest, I disagreed with everything you said on the issue, except the obvious that Christians will never be allowed to pray in a mosque, well unless you are Rick Warren, but then I would say only "professing" Christians are allowed.

Lastly, I am not a weak Christian man and if I lived in that area; no right on the corner of the cathedral; I would not have done what she did. And my guess is there were lots of strong Christian men in that vacinity. I also don't enter into catholic churches and interrupt them and to me there is no difference. THAT IS ONLY THE WAY I THINK.

I sometimes twist what others say, the same as we all do, but I didn't in your case. If you didn't mean that theology doesn't matter, just say you misspoke or should have used another expression. See how easy that is.

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News Item11/19/14 3:43 PM
carl haydock | england  Contact via emailFind all comments by carl haydock
It seems frank has twisted my words. Shame on you
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News Item11/19/14 3:40 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
SteveR wrote:
Its a tactic of the wicked throughout Scripture to criminalize peaceful worship...and it doesnt surprise me you agree
Not backtracking on Romans 13 are you Steve? Or have you reinvented it, so that you can disobey the guv while acknowledging its divine authority. Wow, makes my head spin.
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