Maryland school district to strip references to religious holidays on school calendars
For some students in the suburbs of Washington, Christmas -- or at least recognition of it on their school calendars -- has been canceled.
The Montgomery County school board voted Tuesday to eliminate all references to religious holidays on school calendars, beginning in the 2015-16 school year. That includes Christmas and Easter, as well as Jewish holidays like Yom Kippur and Rosh Hashanah.
The vote came after a recommendation by schools Superintendent Joshua Starr that the board consider removing the names of religious holidays from the calendar in response to a request from Muslim community leaders to give equal billing to their holy day of Eid al-Adha. Starr told MyFoxDC that the county's public schools would still be closed on Christian and Jewish holidays due to the significant number of staff and student absences on those days, but technically not due to any religious observance....
Stating good riddance to the pagan holiday of Christ-mass does NOT equate siding with the enemy. This was the intent of the 'good riddance' - farewell to a pagan celebration - and NOT a back-slapping support of what this school district does. I don't think it's 'evil' for a school to cease from calling 'religious holidays' by other names; take note, none of the religious holidays listed can be supported by Scripture. They are in and of themselves evil. Also note that this all stems from the Muslim community demanding equal billing to their religious holy day; we have pagan celebrations being re-named...and that's a bad thing?
can you show, from Scripture, where we are commanded to celebrate Christmas or Easter? Please, don't cite the KJV in Acts 12:4, for 'pascha' and today's 'easter' are not one in the same. If Scripture doesn't command it, how is it evil to be in favor of changing the names of these pagan rituals, regardless of who makes that decision?
ladybug wrote: Mike NY, you state " To cheer them on in the doing so, would be like the Jews cheering on the SS for taking away the homosexuals." I ask, who here is cheering them on? Many here have stated their disdain for a pagan holiday; however, no one has stated they support what secular education chooses to do. Exposing the error of 'Christ-mass' and its origin is in no way the same as 'siding with the enemy'.
Perhaps sc meant something a bit different, but she did say this, 11/13/14, 11:29AM:
"Good riddance!!! They may not be rightly motivated for their actions but they are much more aligned with Biblical truth in doing so." ---
You followed up at 1:19PM with: "I second your 'good riddance'"
Sounds like a rah rah moment. If the school district is seen as doing something more aligned with biblical truth, even though with evil motive, then that is cheering them on. I'm not arguing the plus or minus of Christmas. I'm saying we shouldn't be supportive of evil because we think some good may come.
Penelope, I love the old Christmas songs like the 1st one you posted, and the one about a boy and his drum, etc.
Anyway, after reading through this thread, I should expound on my original comment. When I respond to storys like like, I'm always looking at the bigger picture. Like in this case, I couldn't care less about a schools stance on Christian holidays. What I see is a continuing assault on God whether it be this particular story, removing a reference to God on a fire station plaque, or banning a stjdent from praying on school grounds, etc, etc. I don't see the individual storys as much as I see a nation imploding morally and spiritually, and so much so, and so violently that new laws are actually being written for the sole purpose of promoting gross immorality and the bannishment of the very God who created all that is, was, and will ever be. I always had trouble reconciling in my mind how the world could actually take up arms and war against God in the end. I couldn't imagine it. Now I can as I see the world, right before my eyes, unite and rise up against Him in proud arrogance as their other gods rise to power.
well, lavish gifts aren't going to make much of a difference for your unsaved neighbors, that's for sure. perhaps you get a few friends together on Dec 25, knock on her door and sing a carol for her like this.....
Christ by highest heavn' adored, Christ, the everlasting Lord, Late in time behold Him come, Offspring of a virgin's womb. Veiled in flesh the God-head see, Hail, th'incarnate Deity! Pleased as man with men to dwell, Jesus our Emmaneul.
Hail the heav'n born Prince of Peace! Hail the Son of Righteousness! LIght and life to all He brings, RIs'n with healing in His wings. Mild He lays His glory by, Born that man no more may die; Born to raise the sons of earth, Born to give them second birth.
I never insinuated you are a troll, nor am I stating someone may or may not have directed a comment towards you concerning giving gifts. I certainly am not aware of any such comment. I was pointing out my own statement concerning gift lavishing and the intent of that statement. Good grief! This has gotten waaaaay out of hand; it was never my intent to hurt you. None of what I stated was even directed towards you. Actually, when I stated about the lavishing of gifts, I was thinking of my unsaved next door neighbors. Last year, right before Christmas, there was a FedEx and UPS truck delivering there every day for seven days straight. Perhaps I should have included that in my comment. Please understand, my comment stating you need not respond was in reference to this from sc, "If you have an issue with the "lavish" comment, you'll need to inquire of ladybug."
Will evangelicals at least admit that they are following The Roman Church calendar when they celebrate Christmas and Easter..Early on in the Massachusettes Bay Colony the magistrate would fine five shillings any such person that celebrated the Christ mass. Did anyone ask Christ if he wanted his birthday put on Dec 25? Or if you are Russian Jan 7th.
Mike NY, you state " To cheer them on in the doing so, would be like the Jews cheering on the SS for taking away the homosexuals." I ask, who here is cheering them on? Many here have stated their disdain for a pagan holiday; however, no one has stated they support what secular education chooses to do. Exposing the error of 'Christ-mass' and its origin is in no way the same as 'siding with the enemy'.
s c wrote: --- Conversely, however, the world can take away that which it gives or appoints (i.e. christmass or easter) If only Christians were so adamant in evangelizing. Dorcas was correct in calling "holidays" sacred cows. Christians face the greatest persecution in this country when they speak out against them (holidays).
The article is about a school district removing references to what it terms "religious holidays." While we're celebrating the wisdom of the school district in doing so, remember they think they are opposing Christians. To cheer them on in the doing so, would be like the Jews cheering on the SS for taking away the homosexuals. This won't stop with the holidays. We should choose our battles with wisdom, and be careful what we wish for.
there's no need for pennned to respond; no one suggested pennned lavished gifts on anyone. This is how the pagans celebrate their holiday; that was the intent of my statement. We certainly should not do as the pagans do...
Pennned, you might want to reread the posts. If you have an issue with the "lavish" comment, you'll need to inquire of ladybug. Further, no one is disputing that Christ came in the flesh. It was indeed an historical event. I don't think that any Christian is suggesting that we discount the Gospel but rather, all the more defend it, in TRUTH. To rightly do so, one must discard this "popish" holiday. Do you really think that our Christian ancestors made a mistake in not aligning with the rc church in regards to this issue? And Christopher wrote: "...I can't even imagine how much more depraved parents, kids, and society as a whole will be when God is finally murdered off and virtually forgotten." Chris, God isn't up in Heaven wringing his hands and asking himself "...I didn't see this coming; what next?" What the militant defenders of pagan holidays (christinized or other) fail to recognize is that the world cannot take anything away which God has given/gives. Conversely, however, the world can take away that which it gives or appoints (i.e. christmass or easter) If only Christians were so adamant in evangelizing. Dorcas was correct in calling "holidays" sacred cows. Christians face the greatest persecution in this country when they speak out against them (holidays).
sc, well, there you go, early November, put it on the calendar and I'll sing joy to the world on that day as well! why do you assume I'm wealthy enough to "lavish" gifts? and how do you know I don't sacrifice any wealth I might have on a daily basis, that's quite a lot of assumptions. and yes, God did lavish His love upon me by bringing HIs Son into REAL history and then died for my sins and yet rose from the dead. I certainly didn't save myself! Praise the Lord! This brings me joy. It is good to remember the scriptures regarding our Messiah's coming, for children to see that He came as a child, faced the same world they faced, yet was perfect. God did make Himself tangible and available through the atonement, tore the veil in half. I certainly wouldn't be here if it wasn't for God's great mercy. I can think of nothing better on these cold days than to see a children's choir singing "silent night, holy night, all is calm, all is bright, round yon virgin mother and child, holy infant so tender and mild, sleep in heavenly peace" or "joy to the world, the Lord has come, let earth receive her King. let every heart prepare Him room, and heaven and earth rejoice" -- why would the angels rejoice? for salvation has drawn near for many.