The Big Bang â€śdoesnâ€™t contradict the intervention of a divine Creator, but demands it,â€ť Pope Francis said Monday morning, because the beginning of the world â€śis not the work of chaos.â€ť
The Pope was addressing the plenary assembly of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, gathered in the Vatican to discuss â€śEvolving Concepts of Nature.â€ť
God is not some sort of wizard, said Francis, but rather â€śthe Creator who brought all things into being.â€ť The origin of the world derives directly â€śfrom a supreme Principle of creative love,â€ť he added.
â€śEvolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation, because evolution requires the creation of beings that evolve.â€ť...
SteveR wrote: (ahem) Not only did you not understand what I posted, you duh'd over the most important part. ....vacuous nonsense...
However in the midst of death and destruction, parties to violence, supporting even Irish stavations, their index fingers covered in blood pointed straghtly towards the RCC as the antichrist. What hypocrisy The WCF is a great document, but it contained truths taught long before the WCF. The bad parts have since been amended. That is why the devil hates it, and perhaps why you hate it too? Your favorite parts have been taken out
Ya really are the most ignorant person I've ever known, and arrogant to boot. It was a "civil war" based on political differences not religious. And sure in wars people get killed whatever their persuasion or nationality. Duh!
I'm sure there is more ignorance ya'll want to throw at this.
As for the WCF, they voiced the unanimous consensus of the Reformed that the Pope is the Man of sin, that Anti-Christ. Ya just can't stand it because of your love of error and untruths and because ya want the Anti-Christ to succeed in subverting the Gospel. That is after all your mission on this board.
Now go Google some more to spread more Catholic revisionist history on this board.
The assembly was convened by the long parliament during the time of the civil wars. ..The act of uniformity was passed not by the Assembly but by the monarch upon the restoration affecting many who were in the assembly. Duh!
Theologically sound? Horse dung! The Pope is indeed that Anti-Christ,
(ahem) Not only did you not understand what I posted, you duh'd over the most important part. Churchman killing Churchman, Protestant killing Protestant, Englishman killing Scotman, and everyone massacring Irish Catholics because..well they were Catholic...no trial needed. Whether loyal to the king or against both confirmed allegiance to the State as their head, at least their head on earth. At no time did I say the aforementioned Acts were made by the Assembly..But you knew that However in the midst of death and destruction, parties to violence, supporting even Irish stavations, their index fingers covered in blood pointed straghtly towards the RCC as the antichrist. What hypocrisy
The WCF is a great document, but it contained truths taught long before the WCF. The bad parts have since been amended. That is why the devil hates it, and perhaps why you hate it too? Your favorite parts have been taken out
Evolution is unbiblical and shows a lack of faith in God. D: God speaks of creation in 6 days, just look at Exodus 20:8-11! Does God contradict Himself? Absolutely not. Here's another case of man thinking himself higher, wiser than God. God is true and every man a liar.
We, on the other hand, ought to search scripture and refute these false preachers. Faith in God helps us to believe and understand Scripture.... not interpret it privately according to science or any whim or fancy.
SteveR wrote: .... Westminster Assembly was subject to the -Act of Supremacy.. Blah... The good news for the wicked was they could legally kill Catholics for treason.
The assembly was convened by the long parliament during the time of the civil wars. Since that war was between the King and the parliament, the Act of Supremacy was not in point. Not that anyone here trusts anything ya post, but I thought I should correct such a negligent and foolish error.
As for killing of Catholics, unlike the Catholics who made murder a religious sport, only those who committed political treason were killed by the Prot authorities.
The act of uniformity was passed not by the Assembly but by the monarch upon the restoration affecting many who were in the assembly. Duh!
SteveR wrote: ..... anywho....The most theologically sound Presbyterian Synod revised Chap 25 eliminating the foolish charge ...
Theologically sound? Horse dung!
The Pope is indeed that Anti-Christ, that man of sin and son of perdition, that exalteth himself in the church against Christ, and all that is called God. This is accepted by Bible believing churches but not by ignorant liberals or funnily by the whore church or the man of sin.
Blensom wrote: Francis is just another Roman Catholic who doesn't understand the Bible and is not a Christian. The reason GOD ordained the Reformation was to get rid of this idolatrous ignorance and heresy to bring the true church back to the Word and doctrines of God. As the Christians stated before in the Westminster; "There is no other Head of the Church but the Lord Jesus Christ (a) nor can the Pope of Rome,..
Oy vey, If you cant understand earthly things, how can you understand heavenly things?
The truth is the Westminster Assembly was subject to the -Act of Supremacy Which meant the Monarch was the head of the Church. The good news for the wicked was they could legally kill Catholics for treason. Oh joy!
That & the Act of Uniformity would drive those seeking true religious liberty to settle in other parts of the world like the colonies. It was nice for awhile, what little that was left of that liberty was sold for a tax free status(501c3)
anywho....The most theologically sound Presbyterian Synod revised Chap 25 eliminating the foolish charge of antichrist
It reads (to which I agree) "6. There is no other head of the church but the Lord Jesus Christ. Nor can the pope of Rome, in any sense, be head thereof."
Francis is just another Roman Catholic who doesn't understand the Bible and is not a Christian. The reason GOD ordained the Reformation was to get rid of this idolatrous ignorance and heresy to bring the true church back to the Word and doctrines of God.
As the Christians stated before in the Westminster; "There is no other Head of the Church but the Lord Jesus Christ (a) nor can the Pope of Rome, in any sense be head thereof; but is that Antichrist, that man of sin and son of perdition, that exalteth himself in the Church against Christ, and all that is called God.(b) a. Eph 1:22; Col 1:18. â€˘ b. Mat 23:8-10; 2 Thes 2:3-4, 8-9; Rev 13:6.
The Papacy of the ancient pagan cult of the queen of heaven has been accepting of Darwinian evolution heresy for decades, this is not new and fits in very well with all of the hundreds if not thousands of other damnable doctrines the spew.
Gil Rugh said or, wrote: Everyone sees the creation and that it has come into existence but not everyone understands how it came into existence. That understanding comes by knowing what God has said and by faith in the word of God. God's word, alone, gives the account of His work of creation by His spoken word and His revelation of what happened, when, and how. The sovereign power of God brought the world around us into existence as a habitation for all mankind whom He created for His glory. As Creator He continues to sustain all things and exercise His sovereign authority and control as He rules over all.
summary for, [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=1122131241493]]]Understanding the Reality of What Is Seen[/URL]and of course you know that my church is Dispensational q.v., [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=5504173329]]]Dispensations[/URL].
Evolution is not science. We all know that. It is a secular atheistic belief system and dogma which is incapable of proof.
However, let us suppose for a moment that by some wild experiment they were able to demonstrate speciation and hence macro evolution at some level, [I know they cannot and will not because the theory is a fabrication, but let us just theorize], they still cannot explain how the inanimate became animate, how sentience came into being, how 'life' came about. What chemical admixture can they dream up to account for that?
If they broke the code to life itself, then imagine the wonders or havoc (depending on your viewpoint) they could cause.
Furthermore, how did brainless 'mother nature' decide on male/female in most living species for pro-creation etc.
BTW Am I reading SteveR's post of 10/28/14 10:33 AM correctly in that he is an evolutionist?
False teachers espouse false ideas. It would be nice if he, being drawn by the Holy Spirit and in reading the word of God, actually came to the true saving knowledge of Jesus Christ (the real one, not the emaciated, perpetual victim that hangs on their crucifixes). Of course, God is sovereign and He works all things to the good for those who love Him and are called according to His purpose. Maybe some rc people will be curious enough to check out what Christians and Christian websites like answersingenesis have to say on the matter. Then they can see how wonderfully science and the Bible mesh together.
Iâ€™m sure there are many views of what I refer to as theistic evolution. We should remember that the RCC discounts the first 11 chapters of Genesis, or something like that, as allegorical. For literally years I have argued with this fellow who is an OEC and they would argue that man didnâ€™t come from something that was in existence, but that God intervened and created mankind apart from the evolution that was taking place. The RCC of course uses this to say there is no such thing as original sin because there was death and destruction prior to Adam. Christopher simply brought up one issue; irreducible complexity, that destroys any type of evolutionary thought. Of course the pope and those of his ilk simply say God intervened at the appropriate times, so the argument of irreducible complexity is a moot point. I hope all of us young earth, non-theistic evolution believers of which I am one, understand just how silly and ridiculous we look to those who are like the pope and simply interject God into creation when God is necessary. But, scripture supports a YEC, non-theistic evolution, scenario. Chris was also correct that they canâ€™t test any of their evolutionary thoughts.
John Paul II said he didn't object to the teaching of evolution, but to not leave god out of it.
What is not " inconsistent" is the worldly fence straddling of the paoacy. The beloved (idolatrously) John Paul II believed the same synthetic nonsense. The obvious question arises " If Christ died for fallen MAN; which version of man?"
I think most people tend to view evolution as a general idea as opposed to an umbrella with an enormous number of tentacles which don make any logical sense. The whole of the theorum relys solely upon time rather than tangible science. Irreducible complexity is just one of many quandries that SteveR's father seems to have failed to reckon, along with many others. Evolutionary theory disrupts the viability of the creation on down which ultimately brings the whole of the Word of God into question. What else is questionable if we really evolved from primates? How much easier it is to comprimise any part of His Word when the self appointed leader of Christendom proclaims errors.