A Christian ministry's long-stalled plans to build Noah's Ark in the hills of Kentucky have been revived.
Creation Museum founder Ken Ham announced Thursday that a municipal bond offering has raised enough money to begin construction on the Ark Encounter project, estimated to cost about $73 million. Groundbreaking is planned for May, and the ark is expected to be finished by the summer of 2016.
Ham said a high-profile evolution debate he had with "Science Guy" Bill Nye on Feb. 4 helped boost support for the project....
William S. Sutherland wrote: The Creation Museum and the Ark Encounter are simply means to counter so much disinformation put out in other museums and the public schools which promote the LIE of EVOLUTION.
A model Ark is not an argument, so it'll not serve the purpose you state: refuting the contention that Genesis is a myth. For even if indeed all species could be carried in Noah's Ark & the thing could float as [speculatively] designed, unbelievers would still say it's a myth because their minds are darkened & will believe â€˘nothingâ€˘ we say, not necessarily because they think it's impossible. Though I grant it may persuade simpletons.
Besides, skeptics could still argue we have no way of knowing if this fake Ark, fully loaded, could survive Flood conditions, which probably involved very violent sea states (e.g. Rogue Waves) if continent-changing geological catastrophes occurred as Creationists claim. This is why I think the unknown, possibly extinct Gopher Wood had to have been very strong, and the Ark might've needed a deep keel & high freeboard.
The RMS Queen Mary, carrying thousands of troops, came within an ace of being capsized by a Rogue Wave during WW2.
I think many of you are misjudging Ken Ham and his motives. I thank God for him and his stand for a literal reading of Genesis and a 6 day creation. The Creation Museum and the Ark Encounter are simply means to counter so much disinformation put out in other museums and the public schools which promote the LIE of EVOLUTION.
He is NOT trying to promote a Romish mode of superstitious worship. He is standing for the Gospel to the Glory of God and for that I give God Thanks!!! This Ham, unlike the one in Genesis who stepped off the first ark, is a Blessing to me! SOLI DEO GLORIA!!!
Christopher000 wrote: To me, building a to-scale ark isn't about enhancing belief in any way, but rather, experiencing the awe and bringing a part of our history to life.
Christopher000 Just a brief thought here on the AWESOMENESS Of GOD in regards to the size of the ark.
Ken Ham has noted well how God did not bring all the species but all the kinds into the Ark, or it would have had to have been enormously larger. This reminds me as I think about it how God can put an entire forest of mightly oak trees into a single acorn.
Or as SF TX has been blessed, the literal miracle of a brand new human being, made in the image and likeness of God, from one single sperm from the father and one single egg from the mother
Oh! May God grant our worship, our praise of Him, Who is Infinitely Worthy of Praise, come alive in acknowledgment of His Unsearchable Greatness, and that in Him mercy and grace true experiencial knowing of His inhabiting the Praises of His people.
WILL YOU LOVE JESUS MORE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwXZZLwXvh4
To me, building a to-scale ark isn't about enhancing belief in any way, but rather, experiencing the awe and bringing a part of our history to life. We can read a book, but pictures bring parts of the story to life by providing visuals that turn what we would normally attempt to imagine into a vision of reality. Movies are even better because the words come to life and etch a motion picture story into our brains. The building of a life sized arc, for me, would serve as a display of the awesomeness of the God of the universe and a look back in time to experience the enormouse size of a barge that God Himself designed, Noahs family built, and the people who were left behind snickered and laughed at. I just think that it would be incredible just to stand next to it in order to grasp it's enormous size. Although, that is a whole lot of money that I think could be spent on human life and furthering God's work.
Anne wrote: Michael H - saw the comment you posted somewhere recently about your daughter and the godly counsel and advice she received.
Anne Again thank you for praying for Stephanie. Sarah and I are so very thankful how people who don't even know us are praying for her.
You and US in the Peach State reminded all of us how God's people have an experiential faith where they can literally build physical reminders of what God has done in our lives - I am thinking this is one of those moments/times in life that I want to hold onto and grow from for the rest of my days on this earth
A brother emailed me reminding me of an old(?) song that IMO is a good "momument" to the joy of having family in Jesus Christ who genuinely loves and cares for each other, even as imperfect as we might be
The Family of God http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd3gVGUMvDU
We could probably write, and hopefully are literally writing with our lives and faith lines such as:
From Georgia to Scotland The Wild West too Mom's with new babies Married and Single With each one of us, Jesus is True
better poets could likely write out verses and chorus to express the thankfulness and love of God poured out in our hearts and in His answers to prayer
Thanks Anne and Michael H for your very kind words. It is a blessing to live in the peach state, at least for the most part my congressman and senators vote on the correct side of most issues. God's blessing to you both.
Michael H - saw the comment you posted somewhere recently about your daughter and the godly counsel and advice she received. I am very thankful and will continue to ask for God's guidance in her life; I had people pray for me ask I grew and know God saved me many a heartache because of these faithful people. I prefere being on this end, quite frankly!
Unprofitable Servant wrote: mourner, I hesitate to reply. My point was that God expects us to use our 5 God given senses in the exercise of our faith.
US Georgia I appreciate your insightful post.
Anne, The Wild West Thank you for pointing out what US posted, or it is likely I might have missed it
The Faith God Himself gives us is certainly in harmony with Revelation to us of who He is AND a revelation of divine Truth that so often has wonderful experiencial reality intimately interrelated with it.
US, when I was recently in Chickamauga it was good to be encouraged by the faith you have expressed on SermonAudio and remember you live in the same state my daughter does.
US, you put into words that which I unflatteringly tried to convey but apparently did not. I was not talking extreme use of "senses" as the ecumenical and pentacostal movements rely upon to "worship" God - a practice which opens occult doors.
Instead, I was recognizing those parts of humans made by our Creator, which He Himself said of it, "it was good", and allows us to experience His power, wonder, strength, judgment and awe as tactile along with our spiritual component. (He placed us in a garden of unspeakable beauty and told Adam to play in the dirt! It was for us to glorify Him in our wholeness.). As we can abuse our spiritual side, we can abuse our physical/senses side. But as we nurture our faith through the Word of God, we can nurture our senses to God's glory as well, in a healthy and God directed way.
Ugh, did I completely loose what I was trying to say there again?
John UK - I absolutely thought of you on this thread! Someday I would love to see one of your pictures! God blesses His flock with such a versatility of gifts and talents and when used to His glory is promotes joy and wonder towards a God who is so deserving.
Unprofitable Servant wrote: mourner, I hesitate to reply.
I don't disagree with what you are saying however isn't there a distinction to be made related to progressive revelation, nothing new, but better understood in the light of the NT.
Hebrews 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, (the Word of God) whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:
I am not saying we do not have 5 senses that God uses for our good for he works all things together for good to those who love Him. But satan and the world also make use of our 5 senses. We over come spiritual enemies with invisible armor and (the shield of) faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. See also 2 Peter 1:18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount. 19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed,...
mourner, I hesitate to reply. My point was that God expects us to use our 5 God given senses in the exercise of our faith.
Let me come up with some examples that hopefully you will find acceptable. When the children of Israel crossed the Jordan river on dry river bed into the promised land, they took stones and erected a memorial so that when their children would SEE the pillar they would ask and be instructed as to God's great deliverance. In the tabernacle, within the holy of holies was a pot of manna, the two tablets of the decalogue and Aaron's rod that budded as a physical reminder of God's dealings with the children of Israel. When the 2 and 1/2 tribes crossed back over Jordan they built an altar after the pattern so they had a physical witness that they were part of the Lord's inheritance. The Israelites were to aid in teaching their children by binding them as a sign upon their hand and having fronlets between their eyes and writings upon the post of their house. Countless examples could be made from what the prophets did in the sight of the children of Israel If we could not exercise any of our senses our faith would stand, that does not mean we lack faith if we do.
Anne wrote: However, wouldn't we be denying the image of God if we so compartmentalize the way a person can grow and mature in God as seeing Him only in a leather bound Writ? Does not nature proclaim Him, too?
Creation proclaims God in general revelation to all men. Romans 1: 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; 19 Because that which may be known of God (general revelation)is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
In this context the things spoken of were made by God. Psalm 19 addresses both natural (creation) and special revelation (Scripture).
UPS Can you really compare the humanity of Christ from 1 John 1:2,3 with man made trinkets of sense, as a sound Scripture argument for the construction of reminders of holy writ for believers? Heb. 11:3,7 disagree
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Strat wrote: Why post only part of what I said,i said that man has had all the bible says he needs to recognize and acknowledge God as creator and Savior,the idea that not only does man need more evidence but that he can create it himself has led to a man centered religion and not Christ centered Christianity with man and HIS creations on display and not the simple,unadorned,non technical,non technicolor simplicity of the gospel. The bible plainly says that man fails to acknowledge God,refuses to acknowledge God and that because of that he has turned people over to a reprobate mind...so now man is going to redeem himself by creating an image and an object that will cause him to acknowledge God.....please.
Strat, wasn't trying to misrepresent what you posted, sorry if I didn't get all in. I appreciate your emphasis on the power of God and use of Scripture in bringing men and women to Christ. I don't think building an ark takes away from that. I think you should also consider Acts 17 when Paul preached at Mar's Hill, he quoted their poets and used their artifacts in giving the message of the gospel and spoke from general revelation.
Strat wrote: Yeah,but not all apolgetics stick to quoting scripture....much of it is man's reasoning,to that extent I am right. My point is that the plain word of God should be enough,for those who it is not enough one has to wonder.
Where does Peter say that this is to be done using the Bible only?
Mike wrote: If apologetics is man's amendment to the word of God, you'd be right. But it isn't. 1 Peter 3:15 "But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:" That's an example of apologetics. From "the Greek apologia which means to give a reason or defense."
Yeah,but not all apolgetics stick to quoting scripture....much of it is man's reasoning,to that extent I am right.
My point is that the plain word of God should be enough,for those who it is not enough one has to wonder.
Barry from KY wrote: John UK. As construction starts I'll share my email address with you and send pics if you'd like. Thomas the Doubter, that is awesome you having family here in Williamstown, Mr. B used to live in this area as well. I can't wait till they start construction. It's very exciting for us. We are a small community. I was talking with the mayor of Williamstown just this Friday and he showed me plans of the entire layout of the park. It's going to be fun to watch the progress.
Hey Barry, that's real thoughtful of you bro, I would be thrilled to see the pics. I might even do a watercolour painting of the finished product.