New Billboard in NYC Says ‘Nobody’ Needs ‘Christ During Christmas’
Just as millions of Americans are preparing to commemorate Jesus’ birth, a secular activist group is once again taking aim at the traditional purpose for the holiday season, asking in a new digital billboard: ”Who needs Christ during Christmas?”
American Atheists, an activist group known for posting its controversial messages on billboards across the nation, unveiled its latest anti-Christmas ad this week in New York City’s Times Square — a 40? by 40? display that is sure to rile critics concerned over the so-called “War on Christmas.”
After asking “Who needs Christ,” the digital billboard shows a hand crossing out Jesus’ name with a marker and text that answers the curiosity with a one word answer — “Nobody.” The next graphic tells viewers to “Celebrate the true meaning of XMAS.”...
John Yurich USA wrote: If I attend the Catholic Church and not a Protestant Church then I am Catholic and not Protestant. That is logical. And if the Catholic Church is not cognizant of my beliefs then there is no way logically that I can cursed and damned by them for all eternity....
Webster's 1913 Dictionary wrote: The act or practice of a hypocrite; a feigning to be what one is not, or to feel what one does not feel; a dissimulation, or a concealment of one's real character, disposition, or motives; especially, the assuming of false appearance of virtue or religion; a simulation of goodness. Hypocrisy is the necessary burden of villainy. Rambler. Hypocrisy is the homage vice pays to virtue. La Rochefoucauld (Trans. ).
Luke 12:1 Under these circumstances, after so many thousands of the multitude had gathered together that they were stepping on one another, He began saying to His disciples first of all, "Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. 2 "But there is nothing covered up that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known.---[URL=http://www.lockman.org/nasb/nasbcmp.php]]]NASB[/URL]
John Y., you are no more a Christian than a Pharisee. Join with a group of Christians, if you
Chicago Politics 101 wrote: The Founder Of "American Atheists", MADALYN, MURRAY O'HAIR, Was Kidnapped & Physically Chopped To Pieces Ala THE BIBLICAL MONSTER & BEAST "NIMROD"-'The Great Hunter' ! That Woman, Whom My Very Own Mother Called 'THE AMERICAN JEZEBEL' Died A Very VIOLENT & HORRIBLE DEATH -- WHICH SHE SO RIGHTEOULY DESERVED ! ! !
If old lady O'Hair embraced Jesus as her Savior before being murdered then she went to Heaven.
Christopher000 wrote: When a member of the laity answers questions about salvation, being born again, etc, they are not being willfully deceptive by any means. What it really boils down to are the core definitions that have been indoctrinated into them, all in the name of ecumenism Baptist pastor to stranger in elevator: hello friend, do you know Christ as your savior? "Yes sir, I do" You have repented of your sins and asked Christ into your life? "Yes sir". Have you been born again? "Yes sir, I have and am". Pastor says, "Well, praise God, brother! " What the pastor walked away not knowing is that the stranger was Roman Catholic and defines the tenents of salvation differently. When a Roman Catholic claims to be born again, what they mean is that they've been baptized as infants, perform auricular confession, and observe/perform the sacraments of pennance, etc.
Well I ceased believing over 25 years ago that becoming Born Again happens at Baptism.
Christopher000 wrote: Hi John, when a member of the laity answers questions about salvation, being born again, etc, they are not being willfully deceptive by any means. What it really boils down to are the core definitions that have been indoctrinated into them, all in the name of ecumenism Baptist pastor to stranger in elevator: hello friend, do you know Christ as your savior? "Yes sir, I do" You have repented of your sins and asked Christ into your life? "Yes sir". Have you been born again? "Yes sir, I have and am". Pastor says, "Well, praise God, brother! " What the pastor walked away not knowing is that the stranger was Roman Catholic and defines the tenents of salvation differently. When a Roman Catholic claims to be born again, what they mean is that they've been baptized as infants, perform auricular confession, and observe/perform the sacraments of pennance, etc. I'm not sure if I answered your question properly?
Yes, thank you very much Christopher. It sure makes communication difficult when two people use words in different ways describing the same event but in totally different meanings. Perhaps this is why sermons describing the new birth and its effects is most important.
John Yurich USA wrote: If I attend the Catholic Church and not a Protestant Church then I am Catholic and not Protestant. That is logical. And if the Catholic Church is not cognizant of my beliefs then there is no way logically that I can cursed and damned by them for all eternity. ---
If I attend a Catholic church does that make me a Catholic for that day? Sometimes I go for a wedding or a funeral. Not too long ago I went to one for a wedding, and the priest was not cognizant of my beliefs. If I am not Catholic because I only go once in awhile, how many times must I attend before I am Catholic?
Hi John, when a member of the laity answers questions about salvation, being born again, etc, they are not being willfully deceptive by any means. What it really boils down to are the core definitions that have been indoctrinated into them, all in the name of ecumenism Baptist pastor to stranger in elevator: hello friend, do you know Christ as your savior? "Yes sir, I do" You have repented of your sins and asked Christ into your life? "Yes sir". Have you been born again? "Yes sir, I have and am". Pastor says, "Well, praise God, brother! " What the pastor walked away not knowing is that the stranger was Roman Catholic and defines the tenents of salvation differently. When a Roman Catholic claims to be born again, what they mean is that they've been baptized as infants, perform auricular confession, and observe/perform the sacraments of pennance, etc. I'm not sure if I answered your question properly?
John Yurich USA wrote: John UK, If a Catholic trusts in Jesus alone for salvation then they are Born Again but if a Catholic does not trust in Jesus alone for salvation then they are not Born Again.
Correct, and then the ones who are born again realise they are not saved by the sacraments but by simple faith in Jesus Christ directly. So they stop attending the mass and confession. Like you, they confess their sins directly to the Lord Jesus at night before they turn in, and if they want to take the bread and wine, they can do so at home because it is simply a remembrance of what the Lord Jesus accomplished at Calvary in AD33 when he died in the place of sinners, taking their sins upon himself, that they might be forgiven and given eternal life. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Christopher000 wrote: John Yurich Wrote: "Well I am Roman Catholic. So don't make a blanket statement that all Catholics don't understand what being Born Again means." John, I don't know how you can keep saying this. You are not a Roman Catholic. Yes, you attend their church disguised as one, but say you are secretly born again...shhh..., but how can you claim to be one of them when you disagree with most of their doctrines; ignoring and pretending that what is happening and being said, isn't. The only way you can claim to be Roman Catholic is if you subscribe to every doctrine and follow them blindly, whether or no your priest thinks otherwise. Even though your priest is not "cognizant" if your deception, you are still cursed and damned by them for all eternity...
If I attend the Catholic Church and not a Protestant Church then I am Catholic and not Protestant. That is logical. And if the Catholic Church is not cognizant of my beliefs then there is no way logically that I can cursed and damned by them for all eternity.
John UK, If a Catholic trusts in Jesus alone for salvation then they are Born Again but if a Catholic does not trust in Jesus alone for salvation then they are not Born Again.
2 Corinthians 4:3,4 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled only to those who are perishing. In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
2 Corinthians 6:1 Working together with him, then, we appeal to you not to receive the grace of God in vain.
Christopher, in your research into Catholicism, especially for your website, what have you dug out regarding a Catholic saying they are born again? I have been looking at the CCC and see that Catholics believe they are born again at baptism, effectively making all Catholics born again (in their eyes, not God's).
Is it therefore a bit of subterfuge when a Catholic describes themself as a born again Catholic? Are they trying to wheedle their way into acceptance by genuine Christians?
John Yurich Wrote: "Well I am Roman Catholic. So don't make a blanket statement that all Catholics don't understand what being Born Again means."
John, I don't know how you can keep saying this. You are not a Roman Catholic. Yes, you attend their church disguised as one, but say you are secretly born again...shhh..., but how can you claim to be one of them when you disagree with most of their doctrines; ignoring and pretending that what is happening and being said, isn't. The only way you can claim to be Roman Catholic is if you subscribe to every doctrine and follow them blindly, whether or no your priest thinks otherwise. Even though your priest is not "cognizant" if your deception, you are still cursed and damned by them for all eternity...
Frank Wrote: "If we believe something is sinful and we do it, then regardless of what others may or may not think, it is sinful."
That's the way I always looked at things. Doesn't Paul mention something similar when speaking about meat sacrificed to idols? ...or something similar.
Unprofitable Servant wrote: As to the birth of our Lord, I believe it should be a cause for daily thanksgiving. We should ever be thankful that the Creator of the whole universe, adored in heaven by seraphims and worshiped by the saints, would leave its glory and splendor and take upon Him the restrictions and limitations of human flesh. That He would voluntarily subject the free exercise of His divine attributes to His Father and live for over 33 years among the rebels of humanity. He suffered under manifold temptations, weariness, hungry, thirst, grief, sorrow, and much more. He was beaten, afflicted, mocked, spit upon, betrayed, and crucified but always kept the goal and joy of redeeming His sheep at the forefront of all He endured. He who knew no sin became my sin substitute because He willing became a babe in Bethlehem. May God give us grace to be ever thankful to Him for His unspeakable gift.
Wonderful words US about our Lord Jesus Christ, God manifest in the flesh, and his purpose and ministry.
Indeed it should be cause for daily thanksgiving, even a daily service; and I don't think the early church messed about with evergreens and fairy lights and baubels to enhance their worship.
John Yurich USA wrote: In fact if I attended a Protestant Church I would not make the minister cognizant of my beliefs either because it would not be any of his business what my beliefs are. It is no business of the clergy what the beliefs are of their church members.
John Yurich Sorry to disappoint you but it is the business of the clergy/leadership of a church to know "you" and what the beliefs (condition) of its members (sheep entrusted to their care) are.
Now while it is true they, the clergy/leadership are not to be a bunch of self-righteous hypocrites that Lord it over the people of their congregation and micro-manage their faith, they ought to know you and care about you, especially whether or not you truly know Christ or have a pretend, make-believe counterfeit for genuine saving faith,
And likewise they ought to be open with their faith and where they are at in their walk with Christ as well. Do they feed you the Truth of Scripture, do they help/encourage you to obey and serve the Savior, to they cover with their praying you and others, do they set an example of genuinely loving others especially of seeking the lost, the poor the hurting, are they truly servants?
Frank wrote: No JohnY, you are simply a troll who loves striving against the truth and who loves the attention he is getting. Now since folks define differently what a troll is, perhaps I am wrong, but I don't think so. I agree, "one nerve left"
I am not striving against the truth. I accept the truth that salvation comes only through trusting in Jesus alone for salvation. And it is no business of the Catholic Church that I don't subscribe to all Catholic doctrines. In fact if I attended a Protestant Church I would not make the minister cognizant of my beliefs either because it would not be any of his business what my beliefs are. It is no business of the clergy what the beliefs are of their church members.
Dr. Bill Jones | 6/18/2008
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