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FRIDAY, FEB 1, 2013  |  12 comments  |  1 commentary
Evangelical churches refine message on gay issues
The Rev. Robert Jeffress has changed the way he talks about homosexuality from the pulpit.

The pastor of the 11,000-member First Baptist Dallas hasn't stopped preaching that homosexual sex is sinful, but he no longer singles it out for special condemnation. Now, Jeffress says he usually talks about homosexuality within "a bigger context of God's plan for sex between one man and one woman in a lifetime relationship called marriage."

"It would be the height of hypocrisy to condemn homosexuality and not adultery or unbiblical divorce," he said, explaining that the Bible allows divorce only in cases of adultery or desertion. He also includes premarital sex on that list. ...


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Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
This article is misleading. The pastor mentioned just decided to become more biblical in noticing sin, [URL=http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+6%3A9-10&version=NASB]]]1 Corinthians 6:9-10[/URL], which Frank pointed out their is more than one, This pastor hasn't denied that [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=92807123612]]]The Bible Says Homosexuality is Sin[/URL].

In the late 19th and early 20th century and a topic that Luther ignored, and drinking may have been a problem with him--thanks for the quote!--

Luke 12

45 "But if that slave says in his heart, 'My master will be a long time in coming,' and begins to beat the slaves, both men and women, and to eat and drink and get drunk;
46 the master of that slave will come on a day when he does not expect him, and at an hour he does not know, and will cut him in pieces, and assign him a place with the unbelievers.---[URL=http://www.lockman.org/nasb/nasbcmp.php]]]NASB[/URL]

There is more than one way to sin. The article didn't really point out that the pastor mentioned in the article, was saying homosexuality wasn't a bad sin, and still is, though the article was trying to imply that.

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News Item2/1/13 12:19 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Rufus wrote:
Your comments remind me of one of my favorite quotes:
"If I profess with the loudest voice and clearest exposition every portion of the truth of God except precisely that little point which the world and the devil are at that moment attacking, I am not confessing Christ, however boldly I may be professing Christ." - Martin Luther
Perfect! Thanks for the quote.
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News Item2/1/13 12:05 PM
Rufus | Fort Worth, TX  Protected NameFind all comments by Rufus
Frank wrote:
Now I would simply ask everyone, which of the below sins are societies around the world trying to get legitimized or tolerated by churches and cultures in general? Now, if the effeminate (homosexuals) is the one, then why would we simply not direct our fight where the fight is. If someone comes to me and says they think adultery should be accepted by the church, then that is the fight I would fight. ...
Your comments remind me of one of my favorite quotes:

"If I profess with the loudest voice and clearest exposition every portion of the truth of God except precisely that little point which the world and the devil are at that moment attacking, I am not confessing Christ, however boldly I may be professing Christ." - Martin Luther

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News Item2/1/13 11:57 AM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Now I would simply ask everyone, which of the below sins are societies around the world trying to get legitimized or tolerated by churches and cultures in general? Now, if the effeminate (homosexuals) is the one, then why would we simply not direct our fight where the fight is. If someone comes to me and says they think adultery should be accepted by the church, then that is the fight I would fight. But in America, it is homosexuality, greed and egalitarianism, so concentrating on them is the right thing to do. We must guard the genuine church against those things that are attacking it. If I say adultery is an abomination to God, no one accuses me of hate speech.

[9] Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, [10] Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. [11] And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. (1Cr 6:9-11 KJV)

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News Item2/1/13 11:31 AM
Mr b  Find all comments by Mr b
Jack from the uk nailed it!!
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News Item2/1/13 11:28 AM
Jack | UK  Find all comments by Jack
The wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness, but if you continue reading Romans 1 it is quite clear God has an extra special indignation against those who practise same-sex behaviour. Dishonouring their bodies between themselves . . . vile affections . . . reprobate mind . . . worthy of death etc.
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News Item2/1/13 10:53 AM
1517  Find all comments by 1517
Mr. Jeffress is right, there are more sexual temptations and sins that are problems in the church. But, open endorsement of homosexuality in the culture must be met with a clear, unambiguous stance against it. ALL sexual perversions should be met with the Holy word, not subjective preaching or reasoning.
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News Item2/1/13 10:16 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
"It would be the height of hypocrisy to condemn homosexuality and not adultery or unbiblical divorce."

So don't be a hypocrite. Not a problem.

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News Item2/1/13 9:20 AM
Wenthrop  Find all comments by Wenthrop
"It would be the height of hypocrisy to condemn homosexuality and not adultery or unbiblical divorce,"

Question; Why was Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed by God?

Was it because of adultery or divorce?

Does this mean that the Bible is the height of hypocrisy?

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News Item2/1/13 9:14 AM
Mr b  Find all comments by Mr b
Amen Christopher!
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News Item2/1/13 8:38 AM
Rufus | Fort Worth, TX  Protected NameFind all comments by Rufus
Christopher000 wrote:
I don't agree because there are differing levels of sin and punishment, right?
Just more watering down of the Word so as not to offend anyone. Now that gay love is no worse than stealing a magazine out of the Doctors office, those living in that sin can breath a huge sigh of relief. Whew!
Seems to me that the Pastors who are spreading this false hope/leniency will be held personally responsible for their fate in some way.
Well said.
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News Item2/1/13 7:07 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
I don't agree because there are differing levels of sin and punishment, right?
Just more watering down of the Word so as not to offend anyone. Now that gay love is no worse than stealing a magazine out of the Doctors office, those living in that sin can breath a huge sigh of relief. Whew!
Seems to me that the Pastors who are spreading this false hope/leniency will be held personally responsible for their fate in some way.
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