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FRONT PAGE  |  11/30/2021
FRIDAY, FEB 25, 2011  |  13 comments
Pay Tithes or get shot?
A youtube video with a voice over of Creflo Dollar explaining how he would handle non-tithers that entered his church, point blank he would shoot them and then commence to doing his sermon. Now, he says he would only do this if he weren't covered in the blood of Jesus, so I'm guessing that's a good thing. He goes on to say that you CAN NOT receive prosperity, blessings or deliverance unless you tithe.

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News Item2/27/11 3:34 PM
Jessica Dawson | Canada  Find all comments by Jessica Dawson
Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver. 2 Corinthians 9:7 King James Version

Each one must do just as he has purposed in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. 2 Corinthians 9:7 New American Standard Bible

And this have ye done again, covering the altar of the LORD with tears, with weeping, and with crying out, insomuch that he regardeth not the offering any more, or receiveth it with good will at your hand. Malachi 2:13 King James Version

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkidoEW8dlE]]]Malachi Chapter 1[/URL]

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fztyTHa0Dlo]]]Malachi Chapter 2 [/URL]

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GivTS-DBBWI]]]The Poor Widow's Offering [/URL]

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News Item2/26/11 2:36 PM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
The Lord will work this out, I have no doubt.

The prosperity gospel is falling on its nose as the dollar gets replaced.

May the true believer not faint in times of tribulation but hold out til the end.

Perhaps a new name will emerge? Creflo Yuan?

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News Item2/26/11 2:35 AM
Modern Day Scheme of Athiests | Canada  Find all comments by Modern Day Scheme of Athiests
Just another example of why I believe Pentecostalism is the new Roman Catholism, a global heresy spreading around the whole world just like Catholicism did for hundreds of years, luring millions upon millions into its vile heresies and blasphemies. And just like you can hardly ever persuade a catholic away from his papal
heresies, you will get a similar result trying to persuade a pentecostal away from his blasphemous heresies.

I truly belive most all tv 'healers'/Pentecostal "profits" (irony), are secret atheists who planned out their schemes years in advance to get to where they are now, and continue their elaborate scams with some of the most shameless nihilism you may ever see in a human being.

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News Item2/25/11 10:12 PM
Jessica Dawson | Canada  Find all comments by Jessica Dawson
Mike wrote:
I wonder what Mr. Dollar would do if his congregation got real literal, and decided to tithe to some storehouse, rather than to his "church"?
Excellent point!

Exodus 18:21 Moreover you shall select from all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such over them to be rulers of thousands, rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens.

Psalm 119:36 Incline my heart to Your testimonies, And not to covetousness.

Jeremiah 6:13 “Because from the least of them even to the greatest of them, Everyone is given to covetousness; And from the prophet even to the priest, Everyone deals falsely.

Mark 7:21-23 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lewdness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness. All these evil things come from within and defile a man.”

Luke 12:15 And He said to them, “Take heed and beware of covetousness, for one’s life does not consist in the abundance of the things he possesses.”

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News Item2/25/11 8:31 PM
Fred | south korea  Find all comments by Fred
Creflo Dollar is an idolater. A lover of money.
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News Item2/25/11 3:26 PM
better to give  Find all comments by better to give
Luke 16:8 And the lord commended the unjust steward, because he had done wisely: for the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light.
9 And I say unto you, Make to yourselves friends of the mammon of unrighteousness; that, when ye fail, they may receive you into everlasting habitations.
10 He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much.
11 If therefore ye have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches?
12 And if ye have not been faithful in that which is another man's, who shall give you that which is your own?
13 No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
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News Item2/25/11 3:01 PM
Revivalandreformation | Canada  Contact via emailFind all comments by Revivalandreformation
It's amazing that every time I talk to someone who is a "tither", and ask them for proof from the New Covenant that we are commanded to tithe, they either go to Abraham, the book of Malachi or they mention Jesus telling the religious leaders of the day to tithe and do the other things the Law requires. This is not the New Covenant. The New Covenant started when Christ died on the cross and rose from the dead. We are told in 2 Cor. 9.17 that we are to give as we decide in our hearts. We must understand that God owns our money. He owns every cent. We don't give unto God to give back to Him, but give unto God out of appreciation and thankfulness. It's out of love I give to God my money, time and energy, not compulsion or an order.

http://churchsalt.com/2011/01/06/churchsalt-challenge-tithing/

Great article and well worth the read.

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News Item2/25/11 2:40 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Jim Lincoln wrote:
As it was said,
2 Corinthians 2
17 For we are not like many, peddling the word of God, but as from sincerity, but as from God, we speak in Christ in the sight of God.
Ah Jim, you are in a grievous error, being a corrupter an' all. The verse you quote is just one proof of that. Here is how it should sound, and you should meditate on, until the Lord hopefully brings you to repentance.

For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.
2 Corinthians 2:17 KJV

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News Item2/25/11 2:11 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim  Lincoln
As it was said,

2 Corinthians 2
17 For we are not like many, peddling the word of God, but as from sincerity, but as from God, we speak in Christ in the sight of God.---[URL=http://www.lockman.org/nasb/nasbcmp.php]]]NASB[/URL]

[URL=http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1533448,00.html]]]Does God Want You To Be Rich?[/URL]

Creflo Dollar isn't rich in the way Jesus wants people to be rich.

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News Item2/25/11 12:48 PM
Rick  Find all comments by Rick
Revivalandreformation wrote:
So true. My in laws are hoodwinked over this guy and I sent them the video last night. What they will do with it, well, we'll see. I couldn't help welling up last night while I watched it. Sad!
Someone sent me this link. It's even more outrageous than the usual prosperity people.

http://www.johnthebaptisttv.com/category/tv-videos/

Watch the top video first. I don't agree with much of the ministry this is from, but they have sure nailed it on this one.

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News Item2/25/11 12:40 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
I wonder what Mr. Dollar would do if his congregation got real literal, and decided to tithe to some storehouse, rather than to his "church"?
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News Item2/25/11 11:02 AM
Revivalandreformation | Canada  Contact via emailFind all comments by Revivalandreformation
Scott McMahan wrote:
I want to make two points about this:
(1) Given the sales of Creflo Dollar's new book, I'm not surprised he wants to shoot people who don't give him money. My bookstores got in some copies of it last fall, and as far as I can tell, zero of them have sold over the past six months or however long it's been out.
(2) This idea of shooting people is not new. There is also a clip of Benny Hinn wanting a "Holy Ghost machine gun" to kill people who disagree with him. I don't know where you can find this clip right now. It's on the audio tapes of the old "Christianity in Crisis" tapes (Hank Hanegraaff). Look for these on youtube and other places to hear this clip.
The Word of Faith movement has a lot of violent people who want to kill people who don't give them what they want. Scary!
So true. My in laws are hoodwinked over this guy and I sent them the video last night. What they will do with it, well, we'll see. I couldn't help welling up last night while I watched it. Sad!
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News Item2/25/11 7:09 AM
Scott McMahan | Internet  Find all comments by Scott McMahan
I want to make two points about this:

(1) Given the sales of Creflo Dollar's new book, I'm not surprised he wants to shoot people who don't give him money. My bookstores got in some copies of it last fall, and as far as I can tell, zero of them have sold over the past six months or however long it's been out.

(2) This idea of shooting people is not new. There is also a clip of Benny Hinn wanting a "Holy Ghost machine gun" to kill people who disagree with him. I don't know where you can find this clip right now. It's on the audio tapes of the old "Christianity in Crisis" tapes (Hank Hanegraaff). Look for these on youtube and other places to hear this clip.

The Word of Faith movement has a lot of violent people who want to kill people who don't give them what they want. Scary!

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