Christians Gather in D.C. to 'Submit' America to God
A small but energetic crowd gathered at Lafayette Park across from the White House Friday to pray for America to return to God.
The passionate prayers, which many times appeared more like preaching, drew â€śHallelujah's,â€ť â€śYes, Lord's,â€ť and hand waving from the crowd. Participants of the D.C. pray-for-America gathering, organized by www.praylive.com, came from as far away as California and as close as Maryland.
â€śWe are doing this because America is in desperate need of prayer,â€ť said Wenda Royster, co-founder of www.praylive.com. â€śWe have such disrespect for God in this nation today. We are praying 2 Chronicles 7:14. We are coming back to God. A place where we know we can get results. We canâ€™t get results anywhere else but looking to God. That is why we are here.â€ť...
"These verses prove that Dispensationalism is a sham. There is one Gospel since Adam through the last man looking forward to the New Adam, and looking back at the finished work of the second Adam. The court of the Jews and the court of the Gentiles are no longer divided."
Couldn't agree more. BTW Be prepared for a backlash,I've found there are some pretty die-hard dispensationalists on SA.
For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Romans 10:12-13 KJV These verses prove that Dispensationalism is a sham. There is one Gospel since Adam through the last man looking forward to the New Adam, and looking back at the finished work of the second Adam. The court of the Jews and the court of the Gentiles are no longer divided.
1 Timothy 2:1-4 First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way. This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Romans 10:1-4 Brothers, my heartâ€™s desire and prayer to God for them is that they may be saved. 2 For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For, being ignorant of the righteousness of God, and seeking to establish their own, they did not submit to Godâ€™s righteousness. 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.
I have been corrected by a brother and apologize for my ignorance. Thank you for all of your input. I am growing and even though I try to hit the bull's eye, I miss so very often.
Ephesians 6 18 With all prayer and petition pray at all times in the Spirit, and with this in view, be on the alert with all perseverance and petition for all the saints, 2 Thessalonians 3:1 Finally, brethren, pray for us that the word of the Lord may spread rapidly and be glorified, just as it did also with you; 2 and that we may be delivered from perverse and evil men; for not all have faith.---[URL=http://www.lockman.org/nasb/nasbcmp.php]]]NASB[/URL]
As was pointed out in the booklet on [URL=http://www.ihcc.org/images/booklets/pdf/L109.pdf]]]Prayer[/URL]
I would think you should also pray for the peace of Jerusalem for that matter, [URL=http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/06/shouldnt_we_all_be_israelis_no.html]]]American Thinker: Shouldn't We All Be Israelis Now[/URL].
However, the issue of prayer may only be tangentiality related to the issue of a [URL=http://www.ihcc.org/images/booklets/pdf/L124.pdf]]]A Closer Look at Revival and Revival Meetings[/URL]
That's what missionaries have always done, is pray for the lost!!! Everytime you enter a friendship with a non-believer, there should be prayer for their salvation and for you to be a witness to the truth in love. When you pray for your missionaries from your churhc, you are entering into their intercession, which is for the lost!
I am beginning to believe that many evangelicals have yet to even enter into the basics of the Christian walk!
John UK wrote: Are you saying that it is not biblical to "call upon the name of the Lord" and thus be saved? If so, know that it has ALWAYS been biblical to do so. Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. Isaiah 55:6-7 KJV And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. Acts 2:21 KJV For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Romans 10:12-13 KJV
John; thank you and Michael for answering these folks. I beleive they have gone off the rail on this issue. When ever someone says "The Bible nowhere says" it makes me head for my concordance. As Michael pointed out Rom. 10:1 has Paul praying for the lost. I'm sure that if a thourough study of scripture is done, many instances can be found.
revivalandreformation wrote: Completely agree...and yes, praying for one's salvation is not Biblical.
Are you saying that it is not biblical to "call upon the name of the Lord" and thus be saved?
If so, know that it has ALWAYS been biblical to do so.
Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. Isaiah 55:6-7 KJV
And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. Acts 2:21 KJV
For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Romans 10:12-13 KJV
revivalandreformation wrote: Completely agree...and yes, praying for one's salvation is not Biblical.
Dear You Simply Won't Have Revival and Reformation If You Do Not Believe Him.
Oh! You imagine praying for one's salvation is not Biblical
Ever hear of the Pharisee and the Publican? It is amazing the Great Intercessor whom you mentioned it the One who told us of these two individuals. And just what were these two men doing? And one of them asked something and went home JUSTIFIED?
It wasn't the religious expert the Pharisee. It wasn't the religious expert the Pharisee. It wasn't the religious expert the Pharisee.
What to guess who else it might be?
Oops! Before I forget did the Apostle Paul PRAY Something for his fellow Jews who were not saved? Wasn't it is his hearts desire and his prayer to God for ........ what was it maybe you remember.
And you think praying for someone's salvation is not Biblical. Bah! You need to repent. And if you have come to your conclusion through whatever system of theology you've bought into you need to repent of that as well and return to the Lord and what He says.
John UK wrote: I take it when you say "pray for sinners" you refer to "pray for sinners to be saved"? If not, 1 Tim 2:1. Thankfully, there is no need for us to pray for fellow sinners to be saved, because the Great Intercessor is already doing that, and far more effectively than we converted sinners ever could. Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them. Hebrews 7:25 KJV
Completely agree...and yes, praying for one's salvation is not Biblical.
Part 1 "And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature..." Mark 16.15 There's no place in God's word where we're told to pray for sinners. We're in fact told to pray for labourers for the harvest (Matt. 9.38). The world's condemned already and IS going to hell and there's nothing we can do about that, unless the Holy Spirit moves upon the person and changes his heart making him accept the gift of salvation.
Does the term intercessory prayer mean anything to modern "christians" anymore? Or are they too tired and battle weary,waiting on an imaginary rapture that is not coming? So the world's going to hell and we need to do all we can to get it there before we die and miss the rapture? BTW Jesus believed in public prayer for sinners,you may be interested in His prayer from the cross.In a very public display,He prayed; Father,forgive them;for they know not what they do.Luke 23:34 Then again when Stephen was publicly executed he knelt down and cried-out with a loud voice,Lord,lay not this sin to their charge.Then he died.Acts 7:60
C.H.Spurgeon once said;If a man has no concern for the lost,then I have a concern as to that man's salvation."Paraphrased"
We cannot stand in the place of sinners and expect God to forgive them of their blatant sins. The world is doomed to hell and there are very few who are destined to be saved. Instead of putting on another "Christian" performance for the world to see, we need to get by ourselves, humbled, submissive and broken before a holy and reverential God and pray there. Our God does not like public displays, it reeks of pride. God tells us to pray to Him in private. Evangelism is the key to saving America, but the Bible says nothing about this happening. It speaks of persecution, a calling out of God's remnant, and the Antichrist overcoming a tired and battle weary sect of Scripturally saved Christians. This spirit is already at work and is slowly and methodically weeding its way through the ranks picking off those who are gullible, diluted and put to sleep by...God! Let the world get as bad as it is supposed to. Proclaim the Good news along with the bad news and let Christ come back. Trying to take America back is just showing a religious rebellion that God will not tolerate.
Revivalandinformation, you are correct! It should be pointed out that I believe even the Pilgrims were in the minority on the Mayflower. [URL=http://www.ihcc.org/images/booklets/pdf/L124.pdf]]]A Closer Look at Revival and Revival Meetings[/URL].
The U.S. has been blessed with many Christians living in this country, we have also been blessed because we usually have had the right attitude towards Jews and Israel, [URL=http://www.ihcc.org/images/booklets/pdf/L127.pdf]]]Does God Have a Future for Israel?: A Study of Romans 11[/URL].
Very good about Bible interpretation as well. [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=92206122515]]]Principles of Bible Interpretation[/URL] as
Gil Rugh said or, wrote: The challenge for us is to approach the Bible to learn and study what it says without reading into it what we want it to say. There are certain principles that can be applied that will allow us to rightly divide the Word and understand what God has said, and what He meant when He inspired the men who wrote it down. The basic rules of interpretation discussed follow the literal, grammatical, historical hermeneutic.
The first thing is to ask to whom is God speaking in 2Chronicles 7:14 If MY PEOPLE,which are CALLED BY MY NAME,
So the next question is,who are God's people? I think the answer is obvious;Those who humble themselves,and pray,and seek His face,and turn from their wicked ways.
Who are called by His name? And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch;Christian is the name given to the believers in Jesus Christ.
as far as trying to bend God's arm and force Him to heal the land,and forgive the sins of the people; Ezekiel 18:21-23 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die. 22 All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live. 23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?
The Lord God made it plain in several places in the Bible that He takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked.What greater honor and glory could there be upon Jesus,than the returning of this nation from where we are now, back to God.
revivalandreformation wrote: The best thing to do if you consider yourself saved, is to preach (proclaim) the Gospel message and tell the world to repent and throw themselves at the feet of Christ. This is doing God's will not the other.