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FRONT PAGE  |  12/5/2021
Choice News WEDNESDAY, JUL 7, 2010  |  22 comments
Feds sue to block Arizona illegal immigrant law
The U.S. Justice Department on Tuesday filed a lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of Arizona's new law targeting illegal immigrants, setting the stage for a clash between the federal government and the state over the nation's toughest immigration crackdown.

The lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court in Phoenix argues that Arizona's law requiring state and local police to question and possibly arrest illegal immigrants during the enforcement of other laws such as traffic violations usurps federal authority. ...


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News Item7/13/10 6:16 AM
sowingintears  Find all comments by sowingintears
Tony Lopez-Cisneros wrote:
BUT I EXPECT SATANIC-VATICANISTS, ROMAN-"CATHOLIC"-CULTIC "JESUIT(IC)S" & "REFORMED"-ROMAN-"CATHOLIC" 'PROTESTANTS' LIKE, "sowing in fears", Ralph Ovadal & Etc. To CONTINUE Propagating Their UNAUTHORIZED-BIBLICAL PRACTICE OF:
#1.INFANT "BABY"-'BAPTISM' &-OR RANTISM--
"RANTISM".. and coming from Tony

Slandering the brethren again in your CAPS LOCK Mode, Tony

As counter wisely notes: "Four days ago you addressed Ralph Ovadal as your "brother" and you apologised to him.
Now you call him a Satanic-Vaticanist and a Jesuit.

In all charity, you need help.
You need Christ's help."

Pastor Overdal is a Baptist, Tony,...see any need to apologise once again for your insidious slur once again as an "accuser of the brethren"

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News Item7/12/10 10:47 PM
Counter  Find all comments by Counter
Tony Lopez-Cisneros wrote:
BUT I EXPECT SATANIC-VATICANISTS, ROMAN-"CATHOLIC"-CULTIC "JESUIT(IC)S" & "REFORMED"-ROMAN-"CATHOLIC" 'PROTESTANTS' LIKE, "sowing in fears", Ralph Ovadal & Etc. To CONTINUE Propagating The UNAUTHORIZED-BIBLICAL PRACTICE OF:
Four days ago you addressed Ralph Ovadal as your "brother" and you apologised to him.

Now you call him a Satanic-Vaticanist and a Jesuit.

All because? ... he does not know you?
or because you claim he is a paedo-baptist?
or because you claim he holds to an established church?

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

In all charity, you need help.
You need Christ's help.

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News Item7/12/10 10:15 PM
Tony Lopez-Cisneros  Find all comments by Tony Lopez-Cisneros
sowing in fears wrote:
Mmmmmmmmmm
Well Hath THE HISTORIC AUTHORIZED HOLY JUDEO-CHRISTIAN BIBLE-SCRIPTURES Spoken Of "sowing in fears" (ala his 'Mmmmmmmmmm' Lust & Hunger For Fear, Evil, Strife, Confusion & Every Wicked Work !):

"For In Eating Every One Taketh Before Other His Own Supper: And One (aka 'sowing in fears') Is Hungry, And Another (Even The Same 'sowing in fears') Is Drunken (With Lunatic Lies, False-Accusations, False Charges, Foolish Suppositions, Evil Surmisings & Pathetic Persecutions). 1 Corinthians 11:21 !

BUT I EXPECT SATANIC-VATICANISTS, ROMAN-"CATHOLIC"-CULTIC "JESUIT(IC)S" & "REFORMED"-ROMAN-"CATHOLIC" 'PROTESTANTS' LIKE, "sowing in fears", Ralph Ovadal & Etc. To CONTINUE Propagating Their UNAUTHORIZED-BIBLICAL PRACTICE OF:

#1.INFANT "BABY"-'BAPTISM' &-OR RANTISM--WHICH HAS ITS ORIGINS IN THE PAGAN-EGYPTIAN RITUAL OF CHILD-SPRINKLING WITH WATER FOR "PURIFICATION & CLEANSING (FROM SIN ?) !

#2.THE PRACTICE OF HAVING A STATE-"RELIGION" &-OR GOVERNMENT-SUBSIDIZED (SPONSORED) "CHURCH";

LIKE...

a.THE "CHURCH" OF ENGLAND

b.THE "CHURCH" OF IRELAND

c.THE "CHURCH" OF SCOTLAND

d.ETC. !

*THE TWO (2) ERRORS OF THE SATANIC VATICAN THAT IS STILL FOUND IN THE SO-CALLED "REFORMED"-ROMAN-"CATHOLIC" PROTESTANT TEMPLES !

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News Item7/12/10 9:04 PM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
The Feds are suing Arizona, that's ironic.
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News Item7/9/10 4:14 PM
sowing in tears  Find all comments by sowing in tears
Tony Lopez-Cisenrso wrote:
My Apoligies To "Ralph Ovadal" The Church That I Visited With Adrian Horien & His Wife, Theona, In 2004 Was An Assemblies Of God Church.
It Was In This Assemblies Of God Church
Mmmmmmmmmm, caught out again

You surely would have recalled and remembered Pastor Overdal as a Calvinist who identifies the Antichrist IF you sat under that godly Pastor's ministry

Tony sitting in his church is just too much!!!

Interesting that you have never mentioned Pastor Overdal before as he is mentioned frequently in the comments forum. You could learn much by listening to his ministry and how he deals with sinners without 'the satanic jesuitic' tirades.

[URL=http://www.pccmonroe.org/antichrist.htm]]]Some sermons for Tony[/URL]

Tony says: "What MANY "Protestants" & "Reformed"-Roman-"Catholics" Fail To Acknowledge, Believe & Understand Is That My Ancestor, Francisco Jiminez-Ximenes Cisneros.."

Was he 'A Bible Christian Who Believes' too?

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News Item7/9/10 2:48 PM
Tony Lopez-Cisenrso  Find all comments by Tony Lopez-Cisenrso
Ralph Ovadal wrote:
I have not had anything to do with Adrian Horien and Chuck Spingola for many years due to major disagreement on some essential issues, and I don't know who Tony-Lopez Cisneros is.
-Pastor Ralph Ovadal
My Apoligies To "Ralph Ovadal" As I Thought He Was Adrian Horien's Old Pastor.

Adrian Did Share With Me That He Had A Disagreement With A Former Pastor & Left His (The Former Pastor's) Church: I Take It That It Was Ralph Ovadal's Church; Which Is NOT Adrian Horien's Present Church.

The Church That I Visited With Adrian Horien & His Wife, Theona, In 2004 Was An Assemblies Of God Church.

It Was In This Assemblies Of God Church That Some Men & Young Men Volunteered To Join My Protest At The Chicago Sodomite-"Pride" Parade Of That Same Year.

So, I Must Needs Reciprocate That I, Tony Lopez-Cisneros, Don't Know Who Ralph Ovadal Is.

Adrian Did Say That He Left His Former Church On A Matter Of "Doctrine", "Policy" & "Administration".

*I'm Aware Br. Horien Hasn't Often Contacted Evangelist Spingola, Br. Linderholm, Br. Truwella Or Myself Since Our Joint Fellow-Christian-Soldier PROTEST OF THE GODLESS & COVERTLY-SATANIC-VATICAN-"JESUIT", FREEMASONIC & NWO-ILLUMINATI FINANCED " 'GAY'-LESBIAN-BISEXUAL-'TRANSGENDER' " SODOMIZERS !

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News Item7/9/10 12:04 PM
Ralph Ovadal | Monroe, Wisconsin  Contact via emailFind all comments by Ralph Ovadal
I have not had anything to do with Adrian Horien and Chuck Spingola for many years due to major disagreement on some essential issues, and I don't know who Tony-Lopez Cisneros is.

-Pastor Ralph Ovadal

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News Item7/8/10 6:17 PM
Tony Lopez-Cisneros  Find all comments by Tony Lopez-Cisneros
Priscilla Power wrote:
If more pastors were like Ralph Ovadal and told the truth about Rome and illegal immigration, then we would not be here today. Pastors, why do you shy away from preaching the truth about popery? You WONDER why your numbers are dwindling? It is because you are not connecting the dots between scripture and what we see TODAY! Take a STAND!http://www.pccmonroe.com/Ecumenism/romanizingamerica.htm
Priscilla: How Are You Sister ?

I Don't Know If You Remember, But I Attended A Morning Worship Service At Br. Ovadal's Church About A Week Or So Before I Marched In & AGAINST The Chicago-"Sodomite"-'Pride'-Parade Of '04.

I Believe It Was A Couple Of Brothers From His Church That Volunteered As Fellow Protesters; Along With My Coordinators & Fellow-Soldiers-In Christ: Br. Adrian Horein & Br. Chuck Spingola.

How's Theona Horein Doing Healthwise ?

I Really Enjoyed The Morning Worship Service At Pastor Ovadal's Assembly.

He Appears To Be A Very Well Informed & Truely Holy-Spirit-Lead Undershepherd Of His Flock.

It's Been A While Since I've Communicated With Br. Horein & Br. Spingola.

Do Inform The Brethren I've Taken A VERY STRONG STAND IN FAVOR OF THE ARIZONA IMMIGRATION LAW & AGAINST EVIL SATANIC-VATICANIST TREACHERY ! ! !

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News Item7/8/10 5:06 PM
Priscilla Powers | US  Find all comments by Priscilla Powers
If more pastors were like Ralph Ovadal and told the truth about Rome and illegal immigration , then we would not be here today. Pastors, why do you shy away from preaching the truth about popery? You WONDER why your numbers are dwindling? It is because you are not connecting the dots between scripture and what we see TODAY! Take a STAND!

http://www.pccmonroe.com/Ecumenism/romanizingamerica.htm

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News Item7/8/10 3:54 PM
Cezar | Midwest  Find all comments by Cezar
No, "strawman" just the truth and you can't handle it.
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News Item7/8/10 3:33 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
"people like you are trying to justify their sins and crimes."

Strawman. Where did I say I opposed the State Bill or Federal immigration law?

Instead, address the section of the Constitution I cited.

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News Item7/8/10 3:29 PM
Cezar | Midwest  Find all comments by Cezar
Neil, you're far off the mark.

There's no excuse for ignoring the laws of another country.

They are criminals and people like you are trying to justify their sins and crimes.

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News Item7/8/10 3:07 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Article 1 Section 8 mentions naturalization (& thus immigration by implication). No States' Rights here.

Perhaps you would prefer a Soviet-style internal passport system?

BTW, that Repub Party writer made no claim (as you do) that States may regulation immigration beyond Federal statutes.

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News Item7/8/10 3:06 PM
Cezar | Midwest  Find all comments by Cezar
Neil wrote:
This is *not* a States' Rights issue, since immigration, like overseas trade, is an acknowledged sphere of Federal authority which States have no right to contradict.
This is a state's right issue.

It is a law that was already on their books and they are enforcing it now.

It's the right of any state to make any laws concerning immigration to their state.

[URL=http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/homeland-security/107731-lawsuit-against-arizonas-immigration-law-ignores-states-rights]]]Lawsuit against Arizona's immigration law ignores [/URL]

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News Item7/8/10 3:03 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
This is *not* a States' Rights issue, since immigration, like overseas trade, is a Constitutional area of Federal supremacy.

I think the AZ lawyers will argue that this law gives local peace officers more authority to enforce immigration statutes already on the Federal books.

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News Item7/8/10 2:53 PM
Cezar | Midwest  Find all comments by Cezar
This is a state's rights issue. The federal government is over-stepping their bounds once more.

Maybe the TEA Party should intimidate voters this time.

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN67KJdd6Mw]]]The Obama Administration Protected Black Panther [/URL]

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn2DjQUgVF8]]]Black Panthers Intimidate Voters in Philadelphia[/URL]

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News Item7/8/10 2:23 PM
Margaret Thatcher  Find all comments by Margaret Thatcher
James R Hamilton wrote:
Wakey, wakey America! Arizona's correct, just look across the pond to the UK here, we're swamped with immigrants, it's too late for us, we've lost our country. The same socialist policies are taken you down the same route.
It wasn't too late in '78.

Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.

Do as I said (1978), not do as I did (1979-1990).

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News Item7/7/10 8:15 PM
Tony Lopez-Cisneros  Find all comments by Tony Lopez-Cisneros
James R Hamilton wrote:
Wakey, wakey America! Arizona's correct, just look across the pond to the UK here, we're swamped with immigrants, it's too late for us, we've lost our country. The same socialist policies are taken you down the same route.
Mr. Hamilton: The REAL Underlying Reason Why OBAMA Went Ahead & Ordered Attorney General ERIC HOLDER To Sue ARIZONA Was, Because, In The Long Run It Would Prevent HIM (OBAMA) From EVER Actually Having To Physically Produce HIS CITIZENSHIP & BIRTH CERTIFICATE To Any & ALL STATES Of The U.S.A. That WILL ENACT FUTURE *SIMILAR* ENFORCEABLE IMMIGRATION POLICIES & LAWS !

The Very FACT Over 500,000 Or 1/2-A-MILLION ILLEGAL & CRIMINAL ALIENS & IMMIGRANTS ENTER THE U.S.A. EVERY YEAR Is Enough To Make The REST Of The "BORDER-STATES" Of THE U.S.A. Take ARIZONA'S Example & PASS THE SAME LAW IN THEIR STATES !

I Believe The BEST Thing That Could've Happened In The U.S.A. Actually DID HAPPEN: ARIZONA WILL REPATRIATING THE CRIMINAL, UNLAWFUL & ILLEGAL ALIENS & IMMIGRANTS !

I Believe The **WORSE** Thing That Could've Happened To ARIZONA Was Being SUED By THE FED. GOV'T !

**A DISGUISED BLESSING**: The Lawsuit Says THE U.S. CONSTITUTION IS THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND:

*THE MORE TO MAKE OBAMA PROVE HIS CITIZENSHIP !

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News Item7/7/10 7:30 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
It'll be interesting to see how the court responds to the law *as written* (versus hysterical misrepresentations by the press).

Anyhow, I don't think S.B. 1070 will make much difference in the long run, aside from frightening the credulous. Illegals already take serious personal risks in coming here; what's a vigilant cop compared to "coyotes" & heat prostration?

For what's it's worth, even my "liberal" family members in CA support this law.

The economic downturn (which I expect will last indefinitely until Congress remembers some basic economics) may prove a greater deterrent.

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News Item7/7/10 5:01 PM
Margaret Thatcher | 30 January 1978  Find all comments by Margaret Thatcher
James R Hamilton wrote:
we're swamped with immigrants,
socialist policies
Socialist? Moi aussi.

"Well now, look, let us try and start with a few figures as far as we know them, and I am the first to admit it is not easy to get clear figures from the Home Office about immigration, but there was a committee which looked at it and said that if we went on as we are then by the end of the century there would be four million people of the new Commonwealth or Pakistan here. Now, that is an awful lot and I think it means that people are really rather afraid that this country might be rather SWAMPED by people with a different culture and, you know, the British character has done so much for democracy, for law and done so much throughout the world that if there is any fear that it might be swamped people are going to react and be rather hostile to those coming in.

So, if you want good race relations, you have got to allay peoples' fears on numbers. Now, the key to this was not what Keith Speed said just a couple of weeks ago. It really was what Willie Whitelaw said at the Conservative Party Conference in Brighton, where he said we must hold out the clear prospect of an END to immigration because at the moment it is about between 45,000 and 50,000...

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