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Choice News MONDAY, MAR 8, 2010  |  49 comments
Machete attacks on Christian villages kill 500-plus in Nigeria
JOS, Nigeria (AFP) ‚Äď UN chief Ban Ki-moon and Washington led calls for restraint on Monday after the slaughter of more than 500 Christians in Nigeria, as survivors told how the killers chopped down their victims.

Funerals took place for victims of the three-hour orgy of violence on Sunday in three Christian villages close to the northern city of Jos, blamed on members of the mainly Muslim Fulani ethnic group.

While troops were deployed to the villages to prevent new attacks, security forces detained 95 suspects but faced bitter criticism over how the killers were able to go on the rampage at a time when a curfew was meant to be in force.

Media reported that Muslim residents of the villages in Plateau state had been warned by phone text message, two days prior to the attack, so they could make good their escape before the exit points were sealed off. ...


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News Item3/27/10 4:55 AM
george.mikal | uk  Contact via emailFind all comments by george.mikal
hi im agre wid u
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News Item3/26/10 6:56 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Mike wrote:
Just having a bit of fun, John.
Pardon?
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News Item3/26/10 6:54 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
John UK wrote:
Pardon?
Just having a bit of fun, John.
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News Item3/26/10 6:25 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Mike wrote:
So really, Malchus should have turned the other cheek, and let Peter whack off his other ear. Interesting.
Pardon?
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News Item3/26/10 5:19 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
John UK wrote:
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I really thought the quotes from Frenchie and Pinky were worth following up and discussing, being most excellent teaching about Peter's sad use of a sword used in aggression against religious persecutors, and the subsequent rebuke by the Lord. Imagine if Peter had actually killed Malchus?
It doesn't bear thinking about.
So really, Malchus should have turned the other cheek, and let Peter whack off his other ear. Interesting.
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News Item3/26/10 3:23 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
prince charles wrote:
No john, i dont believe that he changed His commands, but you are saying that He did which is an error
Charles, there is not hardly a soul upon this earth who is not in error on some point or another, so don't feel too bad about it.

And I uphold the right for anyone to accuse me of error, even your dear self, even though you are in the wrong. I have in my life done a great amount of evangelism, both in my spare time while I was working, and even now in retirement due to ill-health, and I have been accused of error by almost every sinner I've spoken to about the redemption which is in Christ Jesus, so I am quite impervious to such claims.

Occasionally I am shown an error by another Christian, never without biblical proof, and which I repent of and seek to conform myself more and more to the truth as it is in Christ Jesus.

I really thought the quotes from Frenchie and Pinky were worth following up and discussing, being most excellent teaching about Peter's sad use of a sword used in aggression against religious persecutors, and the subsequent rebuke by the Lord. Imagine if Peter had actually killed Malchus?

It doesn't bear thinking about.

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News Item3/26/10 1:06 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Leviticus 24:19,20
"And if a man cause a blemish in his neighbour; as he hath done, so shall it be done to him;
Breach for breach, eye for eye, tooth for tooth: as he hath caused a blemish in a man, so shall it be done to him again."

Matthew 5:38,39
"Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also."

Can you reconcile these, charles?

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News Item3/26/10 12:49 PM
prince charles | wales anglesey  Find all comments by prince charles
John UK wrote:
You are deducing from the fact that Jesus reversed one or two commands, that God had "changed his mind".
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No john, i dont believe that he changed His commands, but you are saying that He did which is an error
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News Item3/25/10 4:58 PM
Amill  Find all comments by Amill
Mike wrote:
Did you know that if you spell misspelled correctly, it's still misspelled?
Very True. However her brother Master Pelled is unaffected by her academic family nomenclature.
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News Item3/25/10 4:36 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
AMill wrote:
BUT
The "Millennial" reign - with two "L's" and Two "N's" - has NO future time frame since it is happening now.
Right on one count, Amill. My bad spelling of "millennial."
Alas, no thumbs up on the rest.

Did you know that if you spell misspelled correctly, it's still misspelled?

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News Item3/25/10 3:52 PM
AMill  Find all comments by AMill
Mike wrote:
The millenial reign will happen. Stand by.
BUT
The "Millennial" reign - with two "L's" and Two "N's" - has NO future time frame since it is happening now.
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News Item3/25/10 3:17 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Mike wrote:
The millenial reign will happen. Stand by.
It isn't a matter of God trying out one way, failing and trying another. It's a matter of God dealing with men differently at different times. God doesn't have to fail to do what he hasn't done before. We shouldn't make God into a programmed robot, unable to do what we imagine he cannot do. There is enough of that done by the 5-point bucks.
#1

#2 Nooo nooo, I didn't say that God failed, but that man failed to get redeemed by God's chosen "dispensation" which necessitated another different one. In the dispensationalistic scheme, is it not believed that the "church" age will fail? My apologies if I have it all wrong on this point, but that is how I have always seen it, Mike.

And if you are awake when the Lord Jesus returns visibly and with great noise, and all the angels, fear not brother, even though it is the end of the world; I don't think the Lord will hold it against you that you believed incorrectly on some items.

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News Item3/25/10 2:30 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
John UK wrote:
You are deducing from the fact that Jesus reversed one or two commands, that God had "changed his mind".
This is similar to the dispensationalistic way of thinking, where God tries out one dispensation (Adamic) and when that fails he tries another (say, Noahic) and when that fails, another et al. Until we are now in the "church age" presently, and when that fails God ends his trials by having a millenial reign of Christ which forces men to obey whether they will or no.
However, God knows the end from the beginning and has NO NEED to "try anything out" or "change his mind" about anything. He accomplishes all his will according to his own counsel.
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The millenial reign will happen. Stand by.

It isn't a matter of God trying out one way, failing and trying another. It's a matter of God dealing with men differently at different times. God doesn't have to fail to do what he hasn't done before. We shouldn't make God into a programmed robot, unable to do what we imagine he cannot do. There is enough of that done by the 5-point bucks.

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News Item3/25/10 10:49 AM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
princecharles wrote:
ha ha yes, and you also say Jesus reversed his commands
brilliant - God changes His mind - great teaching
Ah brother, now I see where you are going wrong, or at least misunderstanding what I am saying.

You are deducing from the fact that Jesus reversed one or two commands, that God had "changed his mind".

This is similar to the dispensationalistic way of thinking, where God tries out one dispensation (Adamic) and when that fails he tries another (say, Noahic) and when that fails, another et al. Until we are now in the "church age" presently, and when that fails God ends his trials by having a millenial reign of Christ which forces men to obey whether they will or no.

However, God knows the end from the beginning and has NO NEED to "try anything out" or "change his mind" about anything. He accomplishes all his will according to his own counsel.

Remember that Jesus was training his disciples to live BY FAITH in him, even for their money, sustenance, housing etc. And so he sends them out without a penny on one mission, and tells them to take money on another.

Also, Jesus tells them to preach ONLY to the Jews at the start, and THEN the whole world later.

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News Item3/25/10 9:23 AM
princecharles | anglesey uk  Contact via emailFind all comments by princecharles
John UK wrote:
Man, you're all over the place.
ha ha yes, and you also say Jesus reversed his commands

brilliant - God changes His mind - great teaching

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News Item3/25/10 7:07 AM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
prince charles wrote:
Sola Scriptura John -
Oh I see, Charles. That's why you told me I should listen to more sermons on SA?

So you refuse to comment on the most excellent quotes from the most excellent preachers, which also are found here on SA.

Man, you're all over the place.

But I still love you brother.

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News Item3/25/10 6:54 AM
prince charles | wales anglesey  Find all comments by prince charles
John UK wrote:
Have you no comment to make on any of the quotes I posted for your benefit and edification?
Sola Scriptura John - thats what you used to boast insnt it ?

why on earth would i choose to respond to your cut and paste when you NEVER answer simple propositions yourself and mock the word when you dont understand it

For my edification ? - coming from somewone who thinks that Jesus changed His mind and REVERSED His teaching - you yourself are no true teacher yet you pretend to be

What is most offensive about your posts leaving aside the previously mentioned offences which I itemised befrore is your position on these poor folk that were slaughtered

The devil indeed is happy to see them killed without resistance - oh horror to have someone like YOU as a neighbour as my family were threatened and killed, someone unwilling to defend the sheep. Its bad enough when its doctrine but its nothing compared to its fruits as expressed in the betrayal of a neighbour in the face of danger
God gave some of us other people to be responsible for, I would not be suprised to find that you have no one to be responsible for, or anything ie a job, a house or a church. See the connection ?

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News Item3/23/10 12:23 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Wrighter wrote:
#1 This in effect confirms what Martin said. This verse talks about the law being in the Gentile, thus confirms that it teaches the sinner, because as the verse states it is written in the heart. The point made by Martin illustrates how some people reject the OT Law in error AFTER they become Christian and assume "Grace" replaces the law knowledge and obedience. That is wrong.
#2 Nothing human is quote "required" eoq, as you put it, prior to the Holy Spirit's action. If you are elect then you will be saved by God. However the point here is about OT Law and its continued obedience, and OT relevance to the people of God today, which you have appeared to reject. The NT did not replace the OT. The Bible is one complete book by God.
Yes I think I can agree with all of that. Our predestination is to be conformed to the image of Christ, and if Christ lived his life in obedience to God's law, then if we observe his life we have some better idea of the true interpretation of the commandments, unlike the phariseeical religious hypocrites who misunderstood the whole purpose of the law. Of course, we must be careful not to obey "all" of the thousands of commandments in the OT, as many of them are revoked in the NT.
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Wrighter  Find all comments by Wrighter
John UK wrote:
#1 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another...
Romans 2:14-15 KJV

#2 There is very little knowledge required before a salvation experience of the Holy Ghost

#1 This in effect confirms what Martin said. This verse talks about the law being in the Gentile, thus confirms that it teaches the sinner, because as the verse states it is written in the heart. The point made by Martin illustrates how some people reject the OT Law in error AFTER they become Christian and assume "Grace" replaces the law knowledge and obedience. That is wrong.

#2 Nothing human is quote "required" eoq, as you put it, prior to the Holy Spirit's action. If you are elect then you will be saved by God. However the point here is about OT Law and its continued obedience, and OT relevance to the people of God today, which you have appeared to reject. The NT did not replace the OT. The Bible is one complete book by God.

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News Item3/23/10 11:32 AM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Wrighter wrote:
"Unless we realise that God’s law is continually and absolutely binding,
we will be incapable of understanding what sin is... (Rev Hugh Martin)
Incorrect sir! Observe:

For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another...
Romans 2:14-15 KJV

There is very little knowledge required before a salvation experience of the Holy Ghost. Indeed, a simple explanation of John 3:16 is adequate, being the quck and powerful word of God, through which the Holy Ghost may bring a poor lost sinner to life. Further, when you consider that quickening occurs before repentance and faith, and that such a quickening is by the will of God not man, I could argue that this can occur without any verse of the scripture being read, although it would be a rare occurrence.

Charles
Have you no comment to make on any of the quotes I posted for your benefit and edification?

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