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FRONT PAGE  |  5/31/2023
SUNDAY, SEP 20, 2009  |  8 comments
Christian hoteliers charged with insulting Muslim guest
Ben and Sharon Vogelenzang are charged with breaching Section 5 of the Public Order Act ‚Äď causing harassment, alarm or distress. If convicted, they face fines of ¬£2,500 each and a criminal record.

It is understood that among the topics debated was whether Jesus was a minor prophet, as Islam teaches, or whether he was the Son of God, as Christianity teaches.

Among the things Mr Vogelenzang, 53, is alleged to have said is that Mohammad was a warlord. His wife, 54, is said to have stated that Muslim dress is a form of bondage for women. ...


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News Item9/24/09 4:04 AM
savedbygrace | Harrisburg, PA  Find all comments by savedbygrace
Even more alarming(though seemingly much more innocent)is the sidebar, "The Holy Post Cafe". Seems that a couple of village churches are adopting "mega" characteristics. Seems that England has the same spiritual deadness as the U.S. where men (including true believers) are content to sit around and talk small talk(eg. cricket and football)with or without a cup of coffee, after the final doxology. Oh, that the church would prepare itself beforehand and talk about the sermon once the service is over.
When the pastors turn their faces towards God(no more need for laughter),
then we will find some churches who delight in the spiritual disciplines.

May it begin with me and you!
JOB 1:8

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News Item9/22/09 9:46 AM
sardunk | London  Contact via emailFind all comments by sardunk
I'm sorry but how can stating a fact and debating get you into trouble . How illogical is that.

It goes to show that these people rather worship a man instead of God. In fact they are not even worshiping rightly their so-called God. They allways appear to be more zealous for Mohammed a sinful man instead of their God.

If these people were following the true god, they would not follow their flesh and take such offense that they would need to call in worldly law which they so despise to judge the case,instead they would try to convince or present some strong arguments for their beliefs and if they couldn't then they would pray for that persons spritual blindness to be lifted. Jesus allways told us to pray for our enemies and those who persecute us, and also to be a good testimony so that they too can be converted.

He never suggested that should anyone insults us or him that we take the case to be judged by a bunch of ungodly men and women. Our lord is quite capable of looking after himself after all he made this earth which demonstrates that Mohammed was just a mere man and not god and obviously has no power.

This country (UK)is really hitting the skid. I keep praying for my full conversion to stand strong as well as my finances, so I can leave.

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News Item9/21/09 8:58 PM
Publican | Northern Hemisphere  Find all comments by Publican
My apologies for the hackneyed phrase, but 'you ain't seen nothin' yet.'
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News Item9/21/09 7:33 AM
Dr Roger Clark | Germany  Contact via emailFind all comments by Dr Roger Clark
"And there¬īs another country, I¬īve heard of long ago......."

As an expatriate Brit I agree with you all 100% (nice to be able to agree with GG for a change!).
I assume things will no doubt get worse before they get any better.

However:-

God is God and Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

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News Item9/21/09 6:54 AM
samphire | south korea  Find all comments by samphire
I'm British, but I don't want to live in Britain any longer. It's not my country any more. It's not the place I grew up in. It has been transformed by the greedy upper classes who devalued the labor force using mass immigration, and by the left-wing humanist establishment that is intent on destroying Western Civilization from within(even though they don't realize it). If I lived in the UK, I would have been locked up a long time ago. Though he must have had some charm and charisma, in many ways he was a despicable man, and certainly demon-possessed. He massacred the Jews in Medina because they would not convert to Islam. Mohammed was scum.
Come and arrest me, Dhimmi police.
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News Item9/20/09 4:30 PM
Max | London  Find all comments by Max
If anybody is reading this from the Crown Prosecution Service and Merseyside Police I would like to go one step further...

Not only was Mohammed (God Curse him), a warlord he was also a thief, bandit and paedophile. If it is a crime to state a historical fact then I am guilty, so come and charge me.

[email protected]

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News Item9/20/09 10:21 AM
GG  Find all comments by GG
Ah! I see. Christian Hoteliers give up their right to have opinions or a personal faith in God and must allow their guests to insult their Religion. This could all be solved over a good old fashioned ham sandwich and a couple of bottles of Lone Star.
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News Item9/20/09 9:53 AM
Brimstone  Find all comments by Brimstone
"In many instances we have detected a worrying tendency for public bodies to misapply the law in a way that seems to sideline Christianity more than other faiths.""

British bureaucracy is anti-Christian.
British politics is anti-Christian.
British judiciary is anti-Christian.
Bristish "justice" and therfore "police" are anti-Christian.

Rom 3:11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:"

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