Adolf Merckle, one of Germany’s wealthiest men, committed suicide after weeks of talks with creditors designed to save his businesses from being consumed by disastrous investments and the global financial crisis.
The billionaire, 74, was said by his family to have been “broken” by the sight of his business empire, which ranged from pharmaceuticals to cement, crumbling. He died on Monday evening, apparently hit by a train a few hundred metres from his home in southern Germany.
A statement from his family said he had taken his own life. “The desperate situation of his companies caused by the financial crisis, the uncertainties of the last few weeks and his powerlessness to act, have broken the passionate family entrepreneur.”
The publicity-shy billionaire was one of Germany’s most powerful industrialists having built his family’s small pharmaceutical business into a 120-firm conglomerate...
UPS, I found a source that needed to used for John Y. that's how that happened. I suppose I could have found a later one since it is one of his favorite mantras
John Y., hidemi did say something that was fairly cool.
Romans 3:28 We reckon therefore that a man is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.
JFB Commentary
Romans 3:28:
28. Therefore we conclude, &c.—It is the unavoidable tendency of dependence upon our own works, less or more, for acceptance with God, to beget a spirit of "boasting." But that God should encourage such a spirit in sinners, by any procedure of His, is incredible. This therefore stamps falsehood upon every form of "justification by works," whereas the doctrine that. Our faith receives a righteousness That makes the sinner just, manifestly and entirely excludes "boasting"; and this is the best evidence of its truth. Inference second: This and no other way of salvation is adapted alike to Jew and Gentile.
John Yurich USA wrote: Nothing scriptural about the Mass? You don't consider readings from the Bible, prayers to Jesus and the words of Jesus from the Last Supper scriptural?
John Yurich, Let's see what you think.
Satan quoted Scripture to Jesus when he tempted him in the wilderness - Was that Scriptural?
Proverbs tell us that if one turns his ear from hearing the law even his prayer is abomination - So is such (quote) praying from one who has turned his ear from hearing the law, even quoting the Bible, Scriptural?
Psalms asks the wicked (you know the ungodly who are committedly disobedient to God) 'what right do you have to take My words in your mouth' - So when the wicked take God's word in their mouth for a religous ceremony they've made up for themselves - does that make it Scriptural?
hidemi williges wrote: "The human side of our salvation from the penalty of sin respects our repentance and faith. Though these possess no merits whatever, and though they in no sense purchase our pardon, yet according to the order which God has appointed, they are (instrumentally) essential, for salvation does not become ours experimentally until they are exercised. Repentance is the hand releasing those filthy objects it had previously clung to so tenaciously; faith is extending an empty hand to God to receive His gift of grace. Repentance is a godly sorrow for sin; faith is receiving a sinner's Saviour. Repentance is a revulsion of the filth and pollution of sin; faith is a seeking of cleansing therefrom. Repentance is the sinner covering his mouth and crying, "Unclean, unclean!"; faith is the leper coming to Christ and saying, "Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean." So far from repentance and faith being meritorious graces, they are self-emptying ones. The one who truly repents takes his place as a lost sinner before God, confessing himself to be a guilty wretch deserving naught but unsparing judgment at the hands of Divine justice." Quote by A.W.Pink ( A Fourfold Salvation Ch. 2 P. 1)
Greg Durel wrote: The Mass is the heart and soul of Roman Catholic worship. Without the Mass there would be no Roman Catholic Institution. The Mass is unique to Romanism, for only they teach and believe in the Doctrine of Transubstantiation. This doctrine teaches that when the priest and only a priest says the words of consecration, that the bread and wine are literally changed into the body, blood, soul and divinity of the Lord Jesus Christ. Christ is then offered again as a sacrifice for the sins of the living and the dead. Rome teaches that it is necessary for one’s salvation to partake of the Mass....
excerpt from, [URL=http://www.johnankerberg.org/wiki/index.php?title=The_Mass:_Miracle_or_Mendacity]]]The Mass: Miracle or Mendacity?[/URL]. The Mass is a blasphemy against Christ, [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?sermonID=612131244186]]]The Superiority of Christ's Priesthood[/URL] trumps the Romish witch-doctor priests black Masses -- which all Masses are. I assume you don't do any of the other 4 Romish Church precepts? [URL=http://xcjournal.org/the-errors-of-catholicism/precepts-of-the-church/]]]The Five Precepts of the Romish Church[/URL].
How in the world did we get to a 4 year old thread going??? And look at the quote I see from John, "Nothing scriptural about the mass......." I couldn't agree more
John Yurich USA wrote: Nothing scriptural about the Mass? You don't consider readings from the Bible, prayers to Jesus and the words of Jesus from the Last Supper scriptural?
"Down with your baptism, and your masses, and your sacraments! Down with your priestcraft, and your rituals, and your liturgies! Down with your fine music, and your pomp, and your robes, and your garments, and all your ceremonials." ~ Charles Spurgeon (Christ, The Glory Of His People 826.464)
Jim Lincoln wrote: There is nothing scriptural about the Mass.
Nothing scriptural about the Mass? You don't consider readings from the Bible, prayers to Jesus and the words of Jesus from the Last Supper scriptural?
There is nothing scriptural about the Mass. Do you adhere to the Precepts of the Romish Church?
The Ex-Catholic Journal wrote: ...These man-made precepts promote a false assurance. “I may be a wicked adulterer and a mafia member, but at least I don’t miss Mass. I’m going to slip in the side door to heaven – purgatory!” God has slightly higher standards: Love Him with all you heart, soul, strength and mind and love your neighbor as yourself (Lk. 10:27). Praise God through Jesus Christ that our salvation is NOT based on what we do, but rather is according to God’s mercy (Titus 3:5).
excerpt from, [URL=http://xcjournal.org/the-errors-of-catholicism/precepts-of-the-church/]]]The Five Precepts of the Romish Church[/URL]. If you do, you will be guaranteed a permanent place in Hell! Even more so than a self-murderer, since obeying the precepts means you reject Christ.
Jim Lincoln wrote: No, John, it is not clear if a Christian in a moment of extreme commits suicide goes to hell. Anyone who participates in The Doctrine of Apostates is not saved, not matter what he says.
If someone commits suicide then how can they repent of the sin of suicide? It is impossible to repent of the sin of suicide after one commits suicide. And thus if someone commits suicide they go to Hell. How many times do I have to state before you get it that I do not adhere to the unscriptural Catholic doctrines and I do not participate in the unscriptural parts to the Mass? I only adhere to the scriptural Catholic doctrines and I only participate in the scriptural parts to the Mass. And thus I do not participate in the Doctrines Of Apostates.
John Yurich wrote: Just because I have not left the RCC and have not united with a lousy Evangelical/Fundamentalist Protestant Church does not mean that I am not saved.
"All compliance with that which we know to be erroneous and unscriptural is a form of bowing the knee to Antichrist, and should be loathed by every follower of the Lord Jesus. Union with unsound churches, and compliance with unscriptural ceremonies stain the integrity of many. In many shapes, in our own land, we are tempted to yield up the completeness of our faith, or withhold our testimony against error; but in any form and from any quarter, this temptation is always to be resisted as we would resist Satan himself. We have no more right to give up truth than to give away our master's property. Trimming and temporising, amiable silence, and unfaithful compromises are treasons to God, and are devices of the devil to obtain space and place for the propagation of falsehood, of which he is the father; but decision for truth sees through the enemy's craft, and disdains to yield him so much as a single inch of vantage ground."
[URL=http://www.biblebb.com/files/spurgeon/stp1866.htm]]]"Simon the Pedlar" by C. H. Spurgeon[/URL]
John Yurich wrote: The minute that I received Jesus as my Personal Savior and Lord I repented of the unscriptural RCC doctrines and the unscriptural parts to the Mass. So knock it off with this insanity that I have not repented of the heretical RCC teachings....
No, John, it is not clear if a Christian in a moment of extreme commits suicide goes to hell, q.v.,
John MacArthur said or, wrote: Suicide is a grave sin equivalent to murder (Exodus 20:13; 21:23), but it can be forgiven like any other sin. And Scripture says clearly that those redeemed by God have been forgiven for all their sins--past, present, and future (Colossians 2:13-14). Paul says in Romans 8:38-39 that nothing can separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus.
from [URL=http://www.biblebb.com/files/macqa/IA-suicide.htm]]]Can one who commits suicide be saved?[/URL]
Anyone who participates in [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=5504151546]]]The Doctrine of Apostates[/URL], is not saved, not matter what he says.
2 Corinthians 8:13-15 For I do not mean that others should be eased and you burdened; but by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may supply their lack, that their abundance also may supply your lack—that there may be equality. As it is written, “He who gathered much had nothing left over, and he who gathered little had no lack.”
Philippians 4:15 Now you Philippians know also that in the beginning of the gospel, when I departed from Macedonia, no church shared with me concerning giving and receiving but you only.
Proverbs 19:17 He who has pity on the poor lends to the LORD, And He will pay back what he has given.
I think personally there is nothing wrong with having a little extra around. Then you are ready if there is a need for yourself, missionary needs, a homeless person, a relative, a friend, neighbour, or even an enemy.
Yet if a person does not have extra, The Lord will never leave you, He shall not leave you as orphans. May God supply all your needs according to His riches in Christ Jesus our Lord.
kenny wrote: "Why do people pursue money beyond what one can use?" "Addictions of every sort plaque man in his fallen condition." It's not an addiction. That's Dobson/Arterburn/Oprah talk. It's called COVETOUSNESS.
Yeah, sin can be summed up in the 10 commandments, and the one described falls under the category of "covetousness."
The question was primarily rhetorical. There are reasons behind the pursuit of money that may not be about the money per se. You read of people accumulating great wealth, and living like paupers, only to leave it to the estate upon death.
In the end, it's a whole lot more about wanting to fill the emptiness within.
I think it may be easier for men chasing the dollar than to put in the time that is required to meet the demands of developing good interpersonal relationships. "Work" is a "noble" endeavor, and a "safe" choice. Who can argue with a man who is providing so well for his family? Shouldn't he be praised?
Neil wrote: "Why do people pursue money beyond what one can use?" This is a loaded question - it assumes we all know how much wealth is necessary for living. I submit that the answer is inescapably subjective. I suggest that covetousness is exhibited by a willingness to break other Commandments for material gain.
Good points, Neil. I got hit with an unexpected $1000+ auto repair bill recently. It would have been good to be able to know in advance that I would need it, and "pursue money" for that purpose. But that isn't how life's unexpected turns operates, so how does one know if the pursuit is "beyond what one can use"?
"Why do people pursue money beyond what one can use?"
"Addictions of every sort plaque man in his fallen condition."
It's not an addiction. That's Dobson/Arterburn/Oprah talk.
It's called COVETOUSNESS. It's wanting more than God has provided you. No one wants to discuss it and when was the last time you heard a preacher preach on it?
God thought it was important enough to include it in the 10 Commandments and Paul called covetousness idolatry.
'Will my Nike's and Walkman suffice?' hidemi williges
Sure as long as they are any colour but Pink Read Pink but don't go there with that colour of footwear particularly if you are a san franciscan gentleman with good taste
[URL=http://www.nitrolicious.com/blog/wp-gallery/0807/nike_dunk_flamingo/dunk_flamingo.jpg]]]Not in San francisco you don't[/URL]
Mp3 coveting jeep wrote: God bless you, you now only need the offer of a Jeep to play it in
Will my Nike's and Walkman suffice?
History and Theology of Calvinism #53: The Election of Dying Infants [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=8300414334]]]A good start[/URL]
Bless you for the link.
1Th 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
'I took him up on that gracious offer. Don't leave home without it.' hidemi williges
I am glad that you did and truly hope it will prove a blessing my friend. If you ask the right questions I think you will find the right scriptural answers and it is good that you are like the berean and willing to check what you hear against the scriptures rather than simply reject Roger's gracious offer.
God bless you, you now only need the offer of a Jeep to play it in
History and Theology of Calvinism #53: The Election of Dying Infants
[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=8300414334]]]A good start[/URL]
Dr. Alan Cairns | 3/9/2009
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that's how that happened. I suppose I could have found a later one since it is one of his favorite mantras 
as long as they are any colour but Pink 
