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FRONT PAGE  |  5/25/2022
WEDNESDAY, SEP 24, 2008  |  22 comments
Ron Paul makes his presidential pick
Representative Ron Paul of Texas, a former seeker of the Republican nomination for president, has endorsed Constitution Party candidate Chuck Baldwin for president in 2008.

Ironically, Paul says he was swayed to make the endorsement by former Republican Bob Barr, who is now running for president on the Libertarian Party's ticket, the same party which nominated Paul for president in 1988.

'The Libertarian Party candidate admonished me for 'remaining neutral' in the presidential race and not stating whom I will vote for in November," Paul wrote both on his Campaign for Liberty website and as a contributor to "I've thought about the unsolicited advice from the Libertarian Party candidate, and he has convinced me to reject my neutral stance in the November election. I'm supporting Chuck Baldwin, the Constitution Party candidate." ...

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News Item10/3/08 8:11 PM
Becky | Missouri  Find all comments by Becky
Well, I plan to vote for Chuck Baldwin, because I believe he is a Christian.

I also think it VERY important to vote in this election so I can vote against my local Congresswoman who okayed the huge banksters bailout this week.

I cannot vote the "lesser of two evils." If all Christians would just vote their conscience (instead of insisting that GOP stands for God's Own Party,) we might have a chance at real reform in our government.


News Item9/30/08 9:24 PM
Daniel Lee Ford | Spring Arbor, Mich.  Find all comments by Daniel Lee Ford
Me wrote:
Stay home! Save the gas!
I'll peddle my bike to my polling place...
that's only Co2 and O2 gas

One good thing about gas prices is that many more people are getting some decent cardio work.

And there are a number of other things to vote for -
I'd say a lot of issues votes,
or votes for judges,etc
can be more worthy of time than the debate between which of the 2 socialists will win...

News Item9/30/08 8:46 PM
Me  Find all comments by Me
Daniel Lee Ford wrote:
It is time to demand a return to sound money."
Me: Yeah, that'll happen.

Daniel Lee Ford wrote:
" Paul urged Americans to bypass both major party candidates and instead vote for a candidate such as Chuck Baldwin.
Appearing on CNN’s popular Lou Dobbs Tonight program while in Washington, Baldwin was told by Dobbs, Americans had “a good reason” to vote for him.Me: Well, now, who do you think Lou Dobbs wants to win the election? Could that be. . .Obama?

Daniel Lee Ford wrote:
Right now, Obama's ahead in my state by about 15 points-

I'm going to vote for a good Christian man - Chuck Baldwin!Me: Stay home! Save the gas!


News Item9/30/08 8:21 PM
Daniel Lee Ford | Spring Arbor,Mich.  Find all comments by Daniel Lee Ford
"In the last three years, the Federal Reserve has created over $4 trillion in new money out of absolutely nothing. As these huge new piles of phony money flood the banking system, the phony money already in circulation becomes worth even less, which leads to higher prices. We accept the vague term ‘inflation’ to describe this giant rip off, as if some immutable force of nature is the cause of our shrinking paychecks. But, make no mistake –This meltdown will ultimately spell disaster for every American.
"So far, the only solution being talked about is more of the same failed monetary policies that got us into this mess in the first place – more fake money, more debt, more usury. It is time to demand a return to sound money."
" Paul urged Americans to bypass both major party candidates and instead vote for a candidate such as Chuck Baldwin.
Appearing on CNN’s popular Lou Dobbs Tonight program while in Washington, Baldwin was told by Dobbs, Americans had “a good reason” to vote for him.( See Lou Dobbs TV transcript and a YouTube clip of the show)
[URL=]]]Sugar Daddy Government[/URL]

Right now, Obama's ahead in my state by about 15 points-

I'm going to vote for a good Christian man - Chuck Baldwin!


News Item9/29/08 8:54 AM
ENGINEER | USA  Find all comments by ENGINEER
[URL=]]]Zogby says it could be a landslide.[/URL]
Essentially the election is at equilibrium," said John Zogby, president of Zogby International. "This election will stay close until the end."

Zogby said he thinks the race will turn in the last weekend before Election Day and though the popular vote will be tight, the successful candidate will win in a landslide.
He likened this year's election to the contest in 1980, when Ronald Reagan defeated President Jimmy Carter.

"This may be and probably is the most important election in our lifetime," Zogby said. "I don't say that lightly."

Despite two books by Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, Americans still don't know enough about him. And if they don't think they know him well enough by the time they vote, they'll go with the "comfortable old shoe," Republican Sen. John McCain, Zogby said.

If Obama can convince voters, he'll increase turnout among young people and minorities, Zogby said.

Zogby later added that if the winner doesn't kick off his presidency with a period of reform, he will risk alienating a generation of voters."

Landslide sounds good-
It would be better to have a clear outcome, vs hanging chads....


News Item9/29/08 7:29 AM
Anna | UK  Find all comments by Anna
Exactly my point ! if Christians do not vote out of fear but our of principle, the whole matter will be solved!

PaulB: I am not necessarily referring to McCain as I am to the main parties..either dems or rep. So you cannot
find any "evil" in both parties?
After all Bush has done how could you possibly vote Rep? Or do you believe McCain to be any different?Both parties lie and they are both puppets of the NWO.


News Item9/28/08 10:04 PM
adewit | Iowa  Find all comments by adewit

[AUTHOR]NoFear[/AUTHOR]Its sad to see so many professing believers voting out of fear of who is the worse candidate instead of voting on biblical principles.[/QUOTE]


News Item9/28/08 12:47 AM
NoFear  Find all comments by NoFear
Its sad to see so many professing believers voting out of fear of who is the worse candidate instead of voting on biblical principles.

News Item9/27/08 4:43 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
No, Neil, don't you remember I'm a dispensationalist? [URL=]]]Dispensations[/URL], I would agree that,
I Corinthians 7
31 and those that use the world, as not using it to the full: for the fashion of this world passeth away.
JFB Commentary wrote:
..., "not to take our fill" of its pursuits as our chief aim (compare Lu 10:40-42). As the planets while turning on their own axis, yet revolve round the sun; so while we do our part in our own worldly sphere, God is to be the center of all our desires.
fashion—the present fleeting form. Compare Ps 39:6, "vain show"; Ps 73:20, "a dream"; Jam 4:14, "a vapor."
passeth away—not merely shall pass away, but is now actually passing away....
In a democracy, we sometimes have to choose the "lesser of two evils" Democracies are messy, if you don't want to have to take on your civil obligations, live in a dictatorship. This one reason that the RCC is so popular, people don't have to do any thinking in the religious sphere, but Christians do think. Citizens in a Democracy, show their -individual- moral responsibility, such as making support of Israel a litmus test, but is all up to God, who gets elected to a governmental position.

News Item9/27/08 9:09 AM
Paul B. | ny  Find all comments by Paul B.
I think it's a mistake to call McCain an "evil", as in "lesser of two evils". He's deeply flawed, but I think he's acceptable as a president. Obama I think is not, because of his past (which the media has no intention of scrutinizing because they want him elected).

Because Mac is acceptable, it would be wrong to throw away a vote on a third party candidate, thus strengthening Obama's position. Politics is about compromise and incrementalism. We can't afford to throw away a chance to somewhat hold the line, in the name of idealism.

Now if Mac demonstrates in some way he's not acceptable, I'll rescind my comments.


News Item9/27/08 5:19 AM
Anna | UK  Find all comments by Anna
I used to believe in "choosing the lesser of the two evils" until to my shock I realised I was still choosing "evil"!
And really out of fear of the "worse evil" winning.! We must not fear as Christians, because God is ultimately in control.(Jesus said: "All power has been given to me in heaven and on earth"-Matt.28:18 )
Maybe If we followed our hearts through prayer, and voted as led,God will step in, but I dont see how He can when we choose "evil"?!Surely we then compromise our integrity doing so?
Who would God choose? Never Obama or McCain is my guess!

News Item9/26/08 5:24 PM
Politics Shmolitics | North Carolina  Protected NameFind all comments by Politics Shmolitics
A few realities:

1) Whether its Ralph Nader or Chuck Baldwin, third party candidates don't have a chance in the current system. Voting for them is at best a protest but not too terribly different from the decision not to vote at all.

2) Whether we vote Obama or McCain we are going to get the same agenda of big government, fiscal irresponsibility, business as usual. The only difference being that with Obama we get unbridled SOCIALISM rather than merely the SOCIALISM LITE of McCain.

3) For Christians, the critical issue is WHO DO YOU WANT APPOINTING SUPREME COURT JUDGES. The Nine Black Robes will be deciding on everything from Marriage to Abortion to whether the gospel will be considered "Hate Speech" and will have a huge influence on social direction of America. Elect Obama and things will be very difficult for Christians in this country for a LONG time after his presidency.


News Item9/26/08 3:38 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
None of that addressed my point. I meant that since you commended Rugh's sermon on politics, you should heed his professed *example*, not necessarily his specific opinions.

BTW, have you noticed that Ron Paul has endorsed Chuck Baldwin? Therefore, that piece on him serves no purpose now. For my part, I was troubled by Paul's speaking highly of the pope, which of course that writer omitted.

Speaking of which, you said, "I'm a citizen of New Rome."
And I thought you were a citizen of New Jerusalem. Well, that explains a lot, esp. your politics!


News Item9/26/08 2:55 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Neil, I will say one thing, my political views are my own, and have nothing to do with any official, unofficial stand of any of the staff at IHCC. I'm a citizen of New Rome, and being a part of democracy, and in this state even something of a direct democracy of a part those who have some role of governance (probably something that my church may not agree with either by the way), but on occasion I will state an opinion, and with Ron Paul's strange ideas even a moral reason to state them.
So that's my --personal-- stand on the subject.

I do realize that besides my moral and really citizen duties to participate in the state actions, I realize that God does have control over everything, including what I should be doing and everything is working towards his end, [URL=]]]Eschatology[/URL].


News Item9/25/08 1:55 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
"I don't speak out about issues because they have become political." - Gil Rugh

Jim, by commending a political columnist's opinions, your 1st URL does exactly what Rugh himself disapproves of in the 2nd! Since pastors are supposed to be examples for their congregations, why then don't you heed him?


News Item9/25/08 1:50 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Ah, the kiss of death! [URL=]]]Too Close to Kooky[/URL], and [URL=]]]The Believer and Politics[/URL].

News Item9/25/08 1:35 PM
KK | USA  Find all comments by KK
Ron Paul endorsed Chuck Baldwin ??? - That makes sense --- just like Paul, Chuck Baldwin hasn't got a prayer in Hades chance of being elected !!! - Anyone who votes for Baldwin is merely casting a vote for Obama, they're just throwing away one good vote !!!

Not many days hence we will all be voting -- we shall see what that day holds for the next four years !!!

As for me, I will cast my vote for McCain, not because I think he is the best, but because he is far from being the worst !!!

There is much I do not like about McCain, but there is much more about Obama that turns my stomach. - I distrust them both, but everything I've discovered about Barack, things the liberal media will not report, point to the true heart of a man with a destructive hidden agenda.

It's just amazing how many people do no research on the candidates, they just take the word of the talking heads in the liberal media.

America needs "SERVANTS" TO "SERVE" THE HIGHER MORAL GOOD AND STAND UP TO "BIG BUSINESS". - "We The People" should be #1 on the list, BUT WE AREN'T -- we've been sold out by a bunch of selfish traitors who will bail out the “BIG BOYS”, but not "US" !!! – Those clowns in D.C. toss around “Our” tax dollars like it’s growing on trees … plain stupidity !!!

Veritas Vincit !!!



News Item9/25/08 7:50 AM
gg2  Find all comments by gg2
John McCain agreed to debate on September 26 (and to appear on David Letterman earlier this week). A man's word ought to be his bond.

Given that John McCain doesn't want to debate on September 26, I suggest Chuck Baldwin to replace him.


News Item9/24/08 11:10 PM
Anti-antichrist | God's land  Find all comments by Anti-antichrist
"There appears to be a curious difficulty about exercising reflective
thought upon the actual nature of an institution into which one was
born and one's ancestors were born. One accepts it as one does the
atmosphere; one's practical adjustments to it are made by a kind of
reflex. One seldom thinks about the air until one notices some change,
favourable or unfavourable, and then one's thought about it is
special; one thinks about purer air, lighter air, heavier air, not
about air. So it is with certain human institutions. We know that they
exist, that they affect us in various ways, but we do not ask how they
came to exist, or what their original intention was, or what primary
function it is that they are actually fulfilling; and when they affect
us so unfavourably that we rebel against them, we contemplate
substituting nothing beyond some modification or variant of the same
institution. Thus colonial America, oppressed by the monarchical
State, brings in the republican State; Germany gives up the republican
State for the Hitlerian State; Russia exchanges the monocratic State
for the collectivist State; Italy exchanges the constitutionalist
State for the "totalitarian" State." (continued) Albert Jay Nock

News Item9/24/08 9:27 PM
Shawn | Walton WV  Find all comments by Shawn
It is a shame more believers didn't support Ron Paul. Now they will have to vote for the "lesser of the two evils". McCain's record is abominable so he picked Palin to get the "evangelical" saps to vote for him. I say, "whenever choosing evil, always pick the lesser of the two."{sic}
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