WASHINGTON â€” Senator Barack Obama has chosen Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware to be his running mate, turning to a leading authority on foreign policy and a longtime Washington hand to fill out the Democratic ticket, Mr. Obama announced in text and e-mail messages early Saturday.
A Democratic Conservative wrote: It's no secret that Biden is an Eastern U.S. "Old-Money" Conservative Democratic Senator from Delaware.
It's also no secret that Caroline Kennedy (Daughter of The Late Assassinated President JFK) was VERY instrumental in Vetting Out ALL the other vice-presidential contenders; & Selected Joe Biden (a Roman Catholic & U.S. Constitution Loyalist--like Her Father JFK--as opposed to being a Satanic-Vaticanist "Canon-Law" Loyalist; ala Vatican-"Jesuitic" Stooge: former US-UN Ambassador Alan Keyes) !
That's why Joe Biden, in 1984-'88, never made it past the U.S. Democratic Primaries to be Nominated For President of The USA: The Satanic Vatican DOESN'T Totally Trust Him:
He's Too Much an Independent Constitutional Conservative Democratic Thinker like President & Bobby Kennedy were.
NOW The Satanic Vatican will HAVE TO Assassinate BOTH Obama & Biden; if She wants to CONTINUE Controlling The U.S. Presidency with Stooges like John McCain, The Skull&Bones Bushes, Ronald Reagan or Even Globalist Democrats like: The Clintons !
"It was very thorough...His (Obama's) goals and values were really clear from the way he approached it. He wanted somebody who was an independent thinker."--CAROLINE KENNEDY on Biden's VP Selection !
DJC49 wrote: *ENGINEER* a pseudonymic non-entity also?
no, that's my name on my birth certificate!
of course, I was virtually born, so..
My real name in N. Gene Ear...
Camara was a CHILD who never went to high school!
That's a little bit LESS schooling than being in the top 25% of ones high school graduating class -- as *ADC* claims. Wouldn't you agree?
Anyway, as I said before, it is quite possible to go out of high school into advanced degree studies in my OWN limited circle of fairly smart friends/relatives.
One friend of mine, in high school, had finished 2 years of Jr. college, and when he graduated high school, CLEPed out of most of the rest of undergrad courses. (you DO have to pay for the credit hours... which seems like a great deal for whatever college you go to, and you benefit by not having to waste your time in areas you've already mastered.)
He's got a couple Doctorates now.
Anyway, if you WANT to doubt a claim of a 'purported offer' to a "pseudonym' that was 'never accepted in the first place' go ahead. I've recently seen you make claim after claim of supposed errors in translation, and when they're rebutted, you just move on to some other 'red herring'.
ENGINEER wrote: Kiwi Alejandro Danao Camara graduated magna cum laude at 19 from Harvard Law in May 2004
Camara was born in Manila, Philippines. A year later, his family moved to Cleveland, Ohio before settling in Honolulu, Hawaii, where Camara attended the Punahou School. A gifted child, he wrote a medical paper on alternative treatments for rheumatoid arthritis at age eleven, which was apparently published in the Hawai'i Journal of Medicine. At sixteen, having skipped high school, Camara earned a Bachelor of Science in computer science from Hawaii Pacific University. He completed the program in two years and was singularly recognized by the university for outstanding academic performance. The Philippines awarded him their Jose Rizal Certificate of Achievement while he was in college and later, in 2005, recognized him with a Presidential Commendation.
It would appear that Camara earned a Bachelor of Science with OUTSTANDING ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE before he was accepted at Harvard.
ADC claimed to have been accepted with only been included in the top 25% in his highschool grad class. Is this the type due diligance that you KJVO advocates exercise to come up with your KJVO positions?
ENGINEER wrote: Kiwi Alejandro Danao Camara graduated ... at 19 from Harvard Law in May 2004
Fact: K.A.D. Camara was a highly-gifted child who SKIPPED high school altogether!
That's a little bit better than being in the top 25% of ones high school graduating class -- as *ADC* claims. Wouldn't you agree?
And PRIOR TO his attending Harvard Law School, K.A.D. Camara earned a Bachelor of Science in computer science from Hawaii Pacific University.
There is absolutely no one on record to date of ever attending Harvard Law School straight out of high school. ALL who have ever attended HLS first had some sort of undergraduate University degree!
And according to [URL=http://www.law.msu.edu/king/2004/2004_Mackey.pdf]]]THIS[/URL] pdf, on page 26 it cites a certain Adolph A Berle, Jr. as being the youngest to graduate HLS at age 21. And like Kiwi Alejandro Danao Camara, he, too, attended University BEFORE matriculating to HLS (3 years @ Harvard Univ. with both bachelorsâ€™ and masterâ€™s degree in history.)
And *ADC* gave the name of one "Mr. Richard Sitch" (who resides at Anywhere, USA). Should I give him a call right away? Huh?
Again, citing ĂĽber-young graduates of HLS is irrelevant.
BTW, are YOU, *ENGINEER* a pseudonymic non-entity also?
DJC49 wrote: You stick up for *ADC's* garbage only because he's on your side
Kiwi Alejandro Danao Camara graduated magna cum laude at 19 from Harvard Law in May 2004
so, I see that you are obsessing about arguements with pseudonymic 'non-entities'.
In point of fact, the 'style' of ADC is NOT what I'd say helps a case for critical examination of "Final Authority" ,but that's just a question of 'style'.
At the foundational level, I'd rather accept the claim of ADC, as it is ridiculous to say it COULDN't have happened. (Proving a negative is awful hard: Unless ADC gives his real name: he has given some names of people that would confirm his bio: you ever give them a call??)
By the way, I'll accept your claim that you're not a 'secret romanist' too.
Anyhow, the main thing is that YOU are becoming, in response to bombast, bombastic yourself, to no real good end.
by the way, does it speak to Obama being a bit dumber than most that at age of 27, Obama was accepted to Harvard University's law school? Most of his fellow students were much younger... is he a slow learner??
Kiwi Alejandro Danao Camara graduated magna cum laude at 19 from Harvard Law in May 2004
there are similar young Harv Law Grads: who cares?
To your 2 hyperlinked SA stories I say: "So what!"
Your "recent news" items confirm absolutely nothing and are totally irrelevant to *ADC's* claim. One is about some 8-year old passing a BRAZILIAN private law school entrance exam; the other, about a 10-year old obtaining an on-line certification as a veterinary assistant.
From the story about the 8-year old comes this: "The Bar Association said the achievement of Joao Victor Portellinha should be taken as a WARNING about the LOW STANDARDS of some of Brazil's law schools."
NEITHER of these 2 SA news stories had anything to do with scholarships to advanced Schools to those coming straight out of high school or even elementary school. _
And your anecdotal story about some who have skipped "YEARS [cough] of undergraduate courses prior to college (CLEP)" is also irrelevant to *A Democratic Conservative's* nonsense about being offered a scholarship by HARVARD LAW SCHOOL straight out of high school!
As I pointed out elsewhere, *ADC* stated that he was in the top 25% of his high school graduating class. Is it any wonder that HARVARD LAW SCHOOL found him to be such a coveted "hot" prospect?
You stick up for *ADC's* garbage only because he's on your side of the KJV-Only debate. That's the bottom line here.
rogerant wrote: Harvard Graduate program lowered their entrance standards
to training the now "4-square for infanticide" micHELLe Obama whereas a Veterinarian college student wouldn't treat a DOG the way BO & micHELLe would their Harvard Law question with abortion? "do we rip off the right arm first, or the left leg?"
[URL=http://fumare.blogspot.com/2008/06/yes-there-are-fools-on-harvard-law.html]]]Fools at Harvard Law [/URL] my LOW opinion of Harvard is shared by many. [URL=http://thejunction.net/justfacts/2008/03/obama-fools-tony-rezko-style-change/]]]Obama's HarvardLaw Job offer from felon Tony Rezco[/URL]
ENGINEER wrote: [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/new_details.asp?ID=25269]]]8yr-old passes law school entrance exam [/URL] MAR 10, 2008 [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/new_details.asp?ID=25072]]]10yr-old completed her college Vet work[/URL] JAN 31, 2008 recent SA stories Stop your usual histrionics,too.
Has the Harvard Graduate program lowered their entrance standards to that of a Brazilian law school and a Olympia vet tech college? What kind of a world are we living in?
[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/new_details.asp?ID=25269]]]8yr-old passes law school entrance exam [/URL] MAR 10, 2008 [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/new_details.asp?ID=25072]]]10yr-old completed her college Vet work[/URL] JAN 31, 2008
recent SA stories Stop your usual histrionics,too. (ADC is WAY bombastic, but you're wrong HERE) Not a smear. It's merely someone pointing out YOUR bombast and *BS*
Sorry, Charlie, but you got caught!
A good "Christian" man such as your scholarship-Only self should eschew any ignorance which is NOT in keeping with reality that can be checked in recent news on this site. (and others)
Stop lying about scholarships to advanced Schools coming straight out of high school or even elementary school being patent absurdity!
What pathetic prevarication!
And stop preaching insults to pseudonymic entities, sir, when you can't find it in you to tell the TRUTH about who you are.(your SATs?)
Getting a scholarship to HARVARD LAW SCHOOL straight out of high school. is possible.
I personally know 4 people, including my brother, who skipped years of undergraduate courses prior to college (CLEP) so a scholarship to HLS could have been offered.
In his post of 8/25/08 7:41 PM, A Democratic Conservative wrote: ... it is an Historic FACT that I turned down an ALL-pre-paid Scholarship to Harvard University (Law School)
On the *THE KING JAMES BIBLE* thread in his post of 8/24/08 3:19 AM, A Democratic Conservative wrote: And to think that I rejected an ALL-pre-paid Scholariship [sic] to Harvard University (Harvard Law School), that was offered to me after highschool graduation ...
This isn't "crucifixion," sir, so you can depart from your usual histrionics. And it's not a smear. It's merely someone pointing out your bombast and *BS*
Sorry, Charlie, but you got caught!
A good "Christian" man such as your KJV-Only self should eschew any braggadocio which is NOT in keeping with reality. That is to say: stop lying about refusing scholarships to Harvard Law School coming straight out of high school!
What patent absurdity! What pathetic prevarication!
And stop preaching "salvation" to me, sir, when you can't find it in you to tell the TRUTH about your (not)getting a scholarship to HARVARD LAW SCHOOL straight out of high school. You MUST attend 4 years of undergraduate courses prior to Law School ... so NO scholarship to HLS was offered you.
A Democratic Conservative wrote: And, it is an Historic FACT that I turned down an ALL-pre-paid Scholarship to Harvard University (Law School)--but instead chose BJU--just ask my highschool Counsellor, Mr. Richard Sitch (who incidentially was Converted to The TRUE Christ of The Authorized Holy Bible: from his False Religion of Roman "Catholicism" during my Jr. year in HS) ! I Graduated in the TOP 1/4 (25%) of my HS Graduating Class. As one needed an A-B Average at the time to attend BJU !
So Harvard was willing to grant you a scholarship, not just to it's University, but to it's graduate LAW SCHOOL? And they were going to do that for someone who ONLY graduated in the top 25% of his high school class???
Now I KNOW ABSOLUTELY that YOU are full of beans! Here ... take some of [URL=http://www.leaderpharma.com/ProdImages/beano.jpg]]]THIS.[/URL] You could probably use a case of the stuff!
And I suppose that your SAT scores were almost 1250 on both the verbal and math. Huh. Fess up. Don't be shy now.
Daniel Lee Ford wrote: You (djc49) ARE right about former AMBASSADOR Keys:he just ran for Senate against BO and was trounced handily, so it was an easy typo to make. 50% right...the dude said (in another thread)he did NOT go to Harvard Law...which is normally a point in anyone's favor. so you're wrong there, too...takes you down to 33.3333%...If you went to Harvard, you'd probably get a failing 'bean' mark...
Dan: djc49 is a "Jesuitic" nit-picker & quibbler over nonessentials; as ALL Satanic-Vaticanist "Jesuit(ic)s ARE !
Roman "Catholic" Cultic "Canon-Lawyer" Alan Keyes was a CANDIDATE for U.S. Senator--and NOT a former U.S. Senator (so I made a simple typographical error--and djc49 wants to already CRUCIFY me for it [Just shows you who he is REALLY spiritually Running & Rome-ing with) !
And, it is an Historic FACT that I turned down an ALL-pre-paid Scholarship to Harvard University (Law School)--but instead chose BJU--just ask my highschool Counsellor, Mr. Richard Sitch (who incidentially was Converted to The TRUE Christ of The Authorized Holy Bible: from his False Religion of Roman "Catholicism" during my Jr. year in HS) !
I Graduated in the TOP 1/4 (25%) of my HS Graduating Class.
As one needed an A-B Average at the time to attend BJU !
If you want to see what true spiritual darkness is like in all it's atrocities, go to yesterday's recorded program on C-Span of the "Interfaith Gathering." That would be Aug. 24, 2008.
I can hardly listen to the lies - supporting a party that upholds abortion, while at the same time upholding and even exalting those who have committed atrocious crimes that have them on death row as ones from which to learn forgiveness, and to show our compassion. Listen to Sister Helen Prejean - Roman Catholic nun and anti-death penalty activist.
How can this be that a sane person can be so inconsistent in his or her thinking?
The Bible says, "These people are given over to reprobate minds - because they rejected the truth, and believed a lie."
Romans 1:22 says, "professing to be wise, they became fools. .. .vs, 25, "for they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator..." vs. 28 "And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind. . ."
ENGINEER wrote: I can imagine Biden slipping up, saying: "I present to you the next president of the United States Osama Bin Ladin!!!"
Speaking of slip-ups ...
Do you remember President Jimmy Carter committing his famous gaffe when, during his keynote speech to the 1980 Democrat convention in New York, he referred to former vice-president, and then senator, Hubert H. Humphrey as â€śHubert ... Horatio ... HORNBLOWER ... uh ... Humphrey!â€ť
I died laughing!
And I'd be willing to bet 72 paperclips that at some point in time during this upcoming presidential campaign, someone will ACCIDENTLY ON PURPOSE refer to Obama as "Osama" ... just to "plant the seed," of course.
It'll make the news.
And there will be a tempest in a teapot ... but in the Lee Atwater / Karl Rove tradition, it WILL be effective.
I just jumped on the treadmill, turned on C-Span coverage of the Democratic National Convention (yesterday's coverage), and was sickened by what I saw. It was called the "Interfaith Gathering."
A governor was declaring his Christian faith, sharing the stage with a Rabbi, a Muslim woman with head covering, and others. Then a Black singing group comes on singing one of the Psalms, without any reverence, but, rather in all worldliness.
For Christianity to be represented among these groups that deny Christ, is physically sickening to me - and, it's all for personal gain.
As I continue to listen - I must be a glutton for pain at the expense of knowing what is going on - those speaking spew forth lies, lies, and more lies - a Bishop for COG denouncing abortion, but supporting the Dem. party for the social gains - I guess that means money, money, and money for programs to keep the poor, poor, impoverished spiritually, not depending on the LORD, but looking to gov't to provide. No wonder Jesus said, "But will there be faith when the Son of Man cometh?"
So, let "Those who have insight give understanding to the many." I think that's in Daniel.
DJC49 wrote: I just keep rolling over and over in my mind the *sound* of the 2008 Democratic ticket: "Obama / Joe Biden." You know ... merely trying to get the flavor of it ... catch the rhythm of it ... Obama Joe Biden Obama Joe Biden Obama Joe Biden And it isn't too long before I hear the name "Osama bin Laden" resonating in my mind!
If I were brain damaged, thinking of [URL=http://hnn.us/articles/53683.html]]]Joe Biden's two cerebral aneurysms[/URL] , I might get confused and start calling my running mate Osama!
I can imagine Biden slipping up,saying:
"I present to you the next president of the United States Osama Bin Ladin!!!"
ENGINEER wrote: The facts are that Barack Obama was at one time a Muslim and practiced Islam. Today, he is attempting to distance himself from that reality. Are his motives born of shame or deception?
I just keep rolling over and over in my mind the *sound* of the 2008 Democratic ticket: "Obama / Joe Biden." You know ... merely trying to get the flavor of it ... catch the rhythm of it ...
Obama Joe Biden Obama Joe Biden Obama Joe Biden
And it isn't too long before I hear the name "Osama bin Laden" resonating in my mind!
[It's just TOO weird!]
Hey ... It might just be CODE to the Islamic terrorists to make another attack upon some other U.S. target! BTW ... Whatever happened to all them terrorists anyway? I haven't heard much about them. Are they on strike or something?
I don't I also don't trust the supposed 'bios' of THEIR spinners: [URL=http://www.ourcampaigns.com/RaceDetail.html?RaceID=58503]]]Biden got one percent of 1984 Dem. Nat. Conv.vote[/URL] BIDEN 1%1984 CONVENTION VOTE of 2,190 - .03?
At this point in time I was full of Jellybeans: (Uncle Ronnie's favorite bean!)
Hey, by the way: just read it: contra 'spinners' [URL=http://www.christianworldviewnetwork.com/print.php?&ArticleID=3887]]]MUM ON BEING MUSLIM-Obamaâ€™s Silence a Slam on Islam [/URL] The facts are that Barack Obama was at one time a Muslim and practiced Islam. Today, he is attempting to distance himself from that reality. Are his motives born of shame or deception?
Conservative watchdog, Floyd Brown, identified in Newsweek recently as someone who is levying unfair attacks on Barack Obamaâ€™s integrity, has a new ad that focuses on his Islamic roots. â€śHow am I the bad guy here?â€ť asks Brown rhetorically. â€śIf the Muslim community should be angry with anyone, shouldnâ€™t it be with Barack Obama for being ashamed of Islam and for denying his roots?â€ť [URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXSlBjiKioY&eurl=http://exposeobama.com/]]]His ad is here[/URL] Obamaâ€™s past includes more Islamic ties than he admits... WHY?
"In 1984 and 2004, Biden ran on the Democratic ticket for President of the U.S."(?)
That source is bogus as that statement is clearly in error. Mondale and Kerry ran on the Dem. ticket for Prez in 1984 & 2004 respectively. Biden didn't even run in the Dem. primaries in those years!
In [URL=http://www.observer.com/2008/politics/if-obama-picks-him-biden-could-set-longevity-record]]]this recent article [/URL] we read: "Biden's MAIDEN EFFORT was for the 1988 Democratic nomination, although he dropped out in the fall of 1987. (Before that, he actually came close to jumping into the 1984 Democratic race at the last minute, finally backing off the week after Christmas 1983.)"
Do NOT trust the WIKIPEDIA "Democratic Party (United States) presidential primaries, 1984 / Result by state" as found [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States)_presidential_primaries,_1984]]]HERE[/URL] as it is rife with error! Example: in the WIKI chart, it shows Joe Biden receiving 13% of the Vermont primary vote and Gary Hart 0%. These percentages are refuted by [URL=http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&d=9253072]]]THIS SOURCE[/URL] which shows Hart receiving 70.0% of the Vermont primary vote with Biden nowhere to be found!