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MONDAY, AUG 4, 2008  |  97 comments
Book links Obama to massacre of Christians
U.S. Sen. Barack Obama has continued to support Kenya's Raila Odinga, even after Odinga has been blamed for inciting tribal violence and slaughtering Christians, according to an explosive new book written by WND senior staff reporter Jerome R. Corsi.

In "The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality," Corsi argues that Odinga's protests following his loss to U.S.-backed Mwai Kibaki in Kenya's 2007 presidential election led to a wave of tribal and religious violence aimed against Kibaki's majority Kikuyu tribe. ...


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News Item8/16/08 6:56 PM
Wayne | Southern California  Find all comments by Wayne
Dear KK:

Guess what? I am in TOTAL agreement with your position on this issue, and that is why I brought it up! When I was in Bible College, many of the young women became pregnant and had to be expell from school.

Upon expulsion, many of these women had abortions for fear of being ostracized by their community. Of course, 99.9 percent of the women I'm talking about were young White women who came from really nice neighborhoods, and were a part of well known evangelical churches.

While these women were not raped, but decided to murder their unborn children, I don't believe for one moment that God would approve a woman killing her unborn child due to the fact that she raped by a perfect stranger. Right is right regardless to the circumstance. Again, I agree in totality with what you wrote!

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News Item8/16/08 1:17 PM
ENGINEER | USA  Find all comments by ENGINEER
Wayne wrote:
Did I miss ?
documentation released by NRLC
New documents just obtained by NRLC, and linked below, prove that Senator [Barack] Obama has for the past four years blatantly misrepresented his actions on the IL Born-Alive Infants Protection bill.

Summary and comment by NRLC spokesman Douglas Johnson:

Newly obtained documents prove that in 2003, Barack Obama, as chairman of an IL state Senate committee, voted down a bill to protect live-born survivors of abortion - even after the panel had amended the bill to contain verbatim language, copied from a federal bill passed by Congress without objection in 2002, explicitly foreclosing any impact on abortion. Obama's legislative actions in 2003 - denying effective protection even to babies born alive during abortions - were contrary to the position taken on the same language by even the most liberal members of Congress. The bill Obama killed was virtually identical to the federal bill that even NARAL ultimately did not oppose.
Stanek has the whole sordid history on this affair, with links to the actual bills &umpteen news stories& legislative resources to prove her case extensive research.
[URL=http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/2008/08/breaking_news_n_1.html]]]OBAMA'S LIES [/URL]

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News Item8/16/08 1:16 PM
KK | USA  Find all comments by KK
Wayne / S Cal

Sir, in my mind we, as a people, on the whole, have not advanced and become so enlightened and cultured as many today perceive --- --- No sir, the social ills that plague us are due to a crude sickness that runs far deeper than men are willing to peer ... it is our progressively digressive warped sense of entitlement that has and is moving us away from the rudimentary moral principles that made America great and it is these HIGHER MORAL PINCIPLES that are now becoming devoid and null due to the disheveled mind-set of a people who have lost their way, or just never really grasped hold of it in the first place !!!

I've stated the aforementioned to say this ------- IF you handed me a pen and ask me to sign into law a document that would be used as an instrument for the unscrupulously exploitive to maliciously murder an unborn child of GOD'S MAKING --- sir, I could not, in good conscience, do such a thing even if it was dressed up as a bill that "protected" a woman that had been raped and as a result became pregnant --- THE UNBORN CHILD HOLDS NO CULPABILITY IN THIS --- MUST THERE BE INSULT ADDED TO INJURY BY JUSTIFYING MURDER ???

MILLIONS HAVE BEEN MURDERED DUE TO our HELLISH NEGLECT !!!

ABORTION SHOULD NOT BE LEGAL.

Veritas Vencit !!!

KK

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News Item8/16/08 12:44 PM
Wayne | Southern California  Find all comments by Wayne
I was completely shocked. In fact, I had specifically chosen to work at Christ Hospital because it was a Christian hospital and not involved, so I thought, in abortion. It hurt so much that the very place these abortions were being committed was at a hospital named after my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I was further grieved to learn that the hospital’s religious affiliates, the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America and the United Church of Christ (OBAMA'S "church")

[URL=http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/2008/08/breaking_news_n_1.html]]]OBAMA's lies about his Baby killing record[/URL]For the past 4 years Obama blatantly misrepresented his record.[/QUOTE]Engineer:

Did I miss something? I see no connection between what this former nurse says and Barack Obama. The other stuff you put up is unsubstantiated political jargon. In fact, even on Obama's website this allegation is easily debunked! I guess it is a question of who do you believe? I'm sure the votes will decide on November 4th.

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News Item8/16/08 9:50 AM
ENGINEER | USA  Find all comments by ENGINEER
Photos tie Obama to massacre of Babies.
the "Comfort Room" which was established at Christ Hospital, for the babies to die in.
SEE
Photo1 -- entrance to the Comfort Room
Photo2 -- the "First Foto" machine, for professional photos of the aborted baby
Photo3 -- Babies are rocked to death in this chair.
Photo4 -- The evil of child-killing is given spiritual trappings, with the option of baptism for the child who is killed.

Photo5 -- the scale to weigh the aborted babies
[URL=http://www.christianworldviewnetwork.com/article.php/3858/Brannon-Howse/]]]Testimony of Jill Stanek LIVE BIRTH ABORTIONS[/URL]

I was completely shocked. In fact, I had specifically chosen to work at Christ Hospital because it was a Christian hospital and not involved, so I thought, in abortion. It hurt so much that the very place these abortions were being committed was at a hospital named after my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I was further grieved to learn that the hospital’s religious affiliates, the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America and the United Church of Christ (OBAMA'S "church")

[URL=http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/2008/08/breaking_news_n_1.html]]]OBAMA's lies about his Baby killing record[/URL]For the past 4 years Obama blatantly misrepresented his record.

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News Item8/16/08 3:42 AM
Wayne | Southern California  Find all comments by Wayne
KK:

Did you answer the question about whether it is a sin if a woman has an abortion if she has been rape? Is the Law of God nullified due to a woman's "unfortunate circumstance?"

Thanks!

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News Item8/16/08 1:29 AM
Wayne | Southern California  Find all comments by Wayne
KK:

What Bush says means absolutely nothing! Why? He contradicts what is suppose to be his "true convictions" about the afore-mentioned things. Let me ask you a question: Would you be a part of a church that goes against the Scriptures? I wouldn't! Why would the President? Thus his Christianity has no credibility with me!

I realize that God alone is his judge, and I will leave that up to God. However, from where I sit, I don't belive that you can sign a law into effect and then embrace a church that goes against what you just signed into law! How does one reconcile that situation? I know that I couldn't do that.

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News Item8/16/08 12:30 AM
KK | USA  Find all comments by KK
Wayne / S Cal

You said, "There are many 'good people' who are pro-choice..." --- Maybe they are good in harmony with the lower standards of worldly men, BUT NOT ACCORDING TO "TRUE RIGHTEOUSNESS" !!!

President Bush said, "The union of a man and woman in marriage is the most enduring and important human institution. For ages, in every culture, human beings have understood that marriage is critical to the well-being of families. And because families pass along values and shape character, marriage is also critical to the health of society. Our policies should aim to strengthen families, not undermine them. And changing the definition of marriage would undermine the family structure."

Bottom line Wayne, it's up to "We The People" -- it should be put to a vote as to whether or not "We" will lower "Our" HIGHER MORAL STANDARDS to accommodate the farcical minded madness of those who have chosen to lead lives of unspeakable debauchery.

President Bush signed into law The Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003 and he said, "This right to life cannot be granted or denied by government, because it does not come from government, it comes from the Creator of life."

In 2007, Obama said, his first act as president would be to sign the Freedom of Choice Act. ---- NOT GOOD !!!

KK

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News Item8/15/08 7:06 PM
Wayne | Southern California  Find all comments by Wayne
Dear KK:

There are many "good people" who are pro-choice, even many, many Republicans I might add such as "John McCain". The current Vice-President supports his daughter homosexual lifestyle.

Our President belongs to a church that advocates ordaining Gay ministers, embraces same sex marriage, sees abdsolutely nothing wrong with homosexuality, promotes a pro-choice idealogy, and even questions the infalliablility and inerrancy of The Scriptures.

Therefore, my question to you KK is, can Mr. Bush be considered "Christian" by his church affiliation? And anyone can chime in if you like.

Additionally, I want to ask another pertinent question to this issue that I will deal with after I've heard from you. Is is a sin for a woman to abort her baby if the child was conceived from a rape? Is the law of God nullified by a woman's "unfortunate circumstance?"

Therefore, my

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News Item8/15/08 3:11 PM
KK | USA  Find all comments by KK
Wayne wrote:
Dear Christiana:
...
I've already pointed out in my previous posts that this might be a year that I hold out on voting for the presidency due to the critical issues that we face such as abortion and same sex marriage, etc. I am pro-life! I am against Gay marriage!
...
.
Wayne,

I find your position to be quite controversial !!! -- You say with one breath "I am pro-life! I am against Gay marriage!" -- and this is GOOD !!! -- But with the next breath you say Obama is "a good man", "the man has character"
.

William / Houston, Texas pointed out in his post on this thread (8/15/08 4:27 AM) what Obama has said concerning sodomites -- Listen again --

"As your President, I will use the bully pulpit to urge states to treat same-sex couples with full equality..." Barack Obama
AND
When he was in the Illinois Senate he repeatedly opposed a bill that would have defined as a "person" a baby who had survived an induced-labor abortion and was born alive.
_____________

Obama voted for the legal murder of a live born baby 3 times as a member of the Illinois Senate !!! -- Does that sound like a man of CHARACTER ??? ...

Sounds like a HELLISH MONSTER to me !!!

Veritas Vincit !!!

"IN" Christ, KK

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News Item8/15/08 1:53 PM
Christiana  Find all comments by Christiana
Wayne wrote:
Dear Christiana:
I agree with you wholeheartedly! That is why I gave my life to Christ at the young age of 15, and have been walking with Him every since. I am tired of turning on the news every evening and hear Fox news denigrate Barack Obama and his wife, while at the same time we never hear of any negative comments about John McCain and his lack of character!
Dear Wayne,

May I suggest that you not watch Fox News? The media do what they do to make money. The bigger following they have, the more money they make.

Fox news has a following because their viewers dislike the liberal media bias one gets on other news networks - MSNBC and CNN.

Fox plays to the conservative audience. If you are conservative, and yet, dislike them, stop watching, and get your news elsewhere.

And, may I suggest, you start thinking of individual responsibility. We would like for the world to be different and we are accountable for our own actions and for those we are responsible for, but we are not accountable for "groups of people" or for "whole segments of the the population."

I think you would be happier if you concentrated on "being" the person God has called you to be, and leave the rest to Him. He alone is Omnipotent.

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News Item8/15/08 12:34 PM
Wayne | Southern California  Find all comments by Wayne
Dear Christiana:

I agree with you wholeheartedly! That is why I gave my life to Christ at the young age of 15, and have been walking with Him every since. In fact, I think your point actually undergirds what I have been trying to communicate to the people here: No political party has a monopoly on "Rightesousness" and "Righteous Living". All of these persons are flawed from the deep recesses of their souls, and need a relationship with Christ!

I've already pointed out in my previous posts that this might be a year that I hold out on voting for the presidency due to the critical issues that we face such as abortion and same sex marriage, etc. I am pro-life! I am against Gay marriage!

I am just sick and tired of turning on the news every evening and hear Fox news denigrate Barack Obama and his wife, while at the same time we never hear of any negative comments about John McCain and his lack of character! Why do they hate this man so much? Has he done that much that a news channel can spew out so much hatred? I think it is the fear of us White people trying to put fear in others. Whether you agree or not, I feel that way!

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News Item8/15/08 9:21 AM
Christiana  Find all comments by Christiana
Wayne,

A born again person sees people made in the image of God, saved, and a brother or sister in Christ, or unsaved, and on their way to eternal hell where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. In other words, we look at the eternal state of the person.

The born again person desires the salvation of the unsaved person and grieves over that persons's lost condition - prays for their salvation - and shares the good news of Jesus Christ when given the opportunity.

This world is passing away, and everything therein. Only that which is Holy will live with the One Who is Holy in His Holy Kingdom. "Without Holiness, no one will see the LORD." Are you holy? - Cleansed by the blood of the spotless Lamb of God?

Let your focus be on serving the One Who made you, for we shall all meet Him soon. Will you meet Him clothed in His Righteousness - made ready to live with Him where there is no sin? Or, will you be condemned to eternal hell?

May you know the Savior - then, your focus will not be on the things that are passing away.

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News Item8/15/08 8:19 AM
Thinker  Find all comments by Thinker
Wayne of So. Cal.

You wrote "As a White man, I've had to take a long, hard look at 'our people.' We think that we are superior to other races. This goes way back to our European ancestry." Posted 8/11/08 at 1:22 a.m.

Seriously, the part about being superior to other races and going back to European ancestry sounds like text lifted from a Black Liberation Theology book.

White people NEVER say "our people," based on skin color. It is not something we think about - period. I've never said or even thought, "Oh, I'm white, I must be better than others."

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News Item8/15/08 5:35 AM
enough already | usa  Find all comments by enough already
Wayne,
why is it every time someone brings out what Obama supports, which goes against the Lord, you dance around it by throwing present or former presidents into the picture. NO ONE here is defending the Republican party; however, the article concerns Obama. That is what the posts should concern, the issues surrounding this man, not Bush, McCain, Reagan, or whoever else you want to drag into the picture. Again, no one here has stated the Rep. party is 'the party'.
Can you answer this, how do you defend anyone, whether it be O or M, when what they stand for goes against Almighty God? Who is your God? Who do you really worship and follow, Obama or Christ?
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News Item8/15/08 4:44 AM
Wayne | Southern California  Find all comments by Wayne
William wrote:
Obama a good man?
When he was in the Illinois Senate he repeatedly opposed a bill that would have defined as a "person" a baby who had survived an induced-labor abortion and was born alive.
"As your President, I will use the bully pulpit to urge states to treat same-sex couples with full equality..." Barack Obama
Showing the love of Christ to others and supporting legislation which would legalize what God says is an abomination are two entirely different things. Do not confuse the two.
How can a "good man" or a true Christian support murder and sexual perversity?
http://www.baptistpress.com/BPnews.asp?ID=27510
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Obama_same_sex/2008/03/03/77289.html?s=al&promo_code=4654-1
William:

That is a very good question! Why does the current Republican president stay with the most liberal church in America: The United Methodist Church. Remember, the same church that:

1. Ordains Gay Ministers
2. Advocates a Pro-choice agenda.
3. Advocates Gay marriage
4. Sees the homosexual lifestyle as acceptable

Why would a so-call "Christian Republican" president be a part of the very things that contradicts his political platform...and supposedly his personal convictions! So, please help me out with that one

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News Item8/15/08 4:27 AM
William | Houston, Texas  Find all comments by William
Obama a good man?

When he was in the Illinois Senate he repeatedly opposed a bill that would have defined as a "person" a baby who had survived an induced-labor abortion and was born alive.

"As your President, I will use the bully pulpit to urge states to treat same-sex couples with full equality..." Barack Obama

Showing the love of Christ to others and supporting legislation which would legalize what God says is an abomination are two entirely different things. Do not confuse the two.

How can a "good man" or a true Christian support murder and sexual perversity?

http://www.baptistpress.com/BPnews.asp?ID=27510

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Obama_same_sex/2008/03/03/77289.html?s=al&promo_code=4654-1

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News Item8/15/08 12:50 AM
Wayne | Southern California  Find all comments by Wayne
Thinker wrote:
Thinker:

You're wrong! So far, this site has been about exalting The Republican Party had her candidates! I am a disciple of my Savior only! Unlike some people, I know right from wrong!

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News Item8/14/08 10:13 PM
Peter | SC  Find all comments by Peter
This is insane reasoning. Stupid might be a better word...Peter
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News Item8/14/08 9:29 PM
Thinker  Find all comments by Thinker
Wayne wrote:
Dear KK:
Nothing you have said proves that Obama is a muslim or, is unpatriotic, etc. If Obama was a member of Rev. Wright's church, then he certainly was not a muslim! MLK was clearly not a muslim. And for the record, what Obama was referring to by making the statement concerning MLK and Malcom has to do with their strenght, their tenacity in the face of extreme oppression.
Most of the negative stuff you guys have come up with has come out of bogus books such as the latest one by Jerome Corsi. however, it has already been proven that so far there are at least 87 "serious" factual lies in the book!
Mr. Eric Burns, a well known writer and analyst checked out the book and he says "out of The first eleven reference of the book, there are nine references to his previous books!" In other words, he quotes himself in order to mislead the Country concerning this man. What a sham and what a darn shame! Sadly, some of you will believe the stuff.
Wayne,

It is obvious that you are a disciple of Obama.

"Sweetness and Light" is a good site for you to debate the virtues of Obama.

This site exalts the Lord Jesus Christ.

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